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Is she commiting benefits fraud?

A girl that I vaguely know lives in her own flat, and somehow can afford to live despite the fact that she doesn't have a job. I always just presumed that she got job seekers allowance or something, but then recently found out that she studies full-time with the Open University.

Surely she can't be getting JSA if she studies full-time, as she clearly isn't intending to get a job at any point in the next few years?

I tried asking her sister about it, but her whole family are very defensive of the subject, which leads me to believe that it is either illegal, or morally wrong at best.

So - is there a way that a 20-something girl, with no kids, no disabilities, no job and no plans to get a job can legally just live completely funded by the government like that? Free house, free money, free studying?

I'm not planning on reporting her or anything. To be honest, I just want someone to reassure me that the government don't give away tax money that readily.

EDIT: and to anyone about to tell me to mind my own business, please don't bother. I just want to find out about how the benefits in this country are allocated. I'm not planning on interfering in anyone's life.

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Tell me her name and address and I will break into her flat and check for you.
can legally just live completely funded by the government like that?


Why do you think she's being funded by the government? Maybe she's saved from a job in the past or inherited some money, maybe her family are helping her out. :dontknow:
Reply 3
They give it away that readily.
Reply 4
andy5788
They give it away that readily.



yeah. that's all it shows, op.
Reply 5
Vampyrcorn
Why do you think she's being funded by the government? Maybe she's saved from a job in the past or inherited some money, maybe her family are helping her out. :dontknow:


She's never had a job, her family don't have jobs, and I'm pretty sure she doesn't have an inheritance.

Should have mentioned that really.
Mind your own business.
Reply 7
Spanghew
A girl that I vaguely know lives in her own flat, and somehow can afford to live despite the fact that she doesn't have a job. I always just presumed that she got job seekers allowance or something, but then recently found out that she studies full-time with the Open University.

Surely she can't be getting JSA if she studies full-time, as she clearly isn't intending to get a job at any point in the next few years?

I tried asking her sister about it, but her whole family are very defensive of the subject, which leads me to believe that it is either illegal, or morally wrong at best.

So - is there a way that a 20-something girl, with no kids, no disabilities, no job and no plans to get a job can legally just live completely funded by the government like that? Free house, free money, free studying?

I'm not planning on reporting her or anything. To be honest, I just want someone to reassure me that the government don't give away tax money that readily.


I don't think the open uni courses are the same as a normal uni as she doesn't physically attend a uni, therefore it is quite possible that she is on jsa, otherwise she could just be living of a loan if you can get them for open uni idk.

Possibly she has savings or a sponsor who pays for the flat, she may because she is living alone if she is on jsa get her rent paid for her but as i have said idk i would have t ask my mum.
Reply 8
Maybe she's an escort?
Reply 9
Spanghew
A girl that I vaguely know lives in her own flat, and somehow can afford to live despite the fact that she doesn't have a job. I always just presumed that she got job seekers allowance or something, but then recently found out that she studies full-time with the Open University.

Surely she can't be getting JSA if she studies full-time, as she clearly isn't intending to get a job at any point in the next few years?

I tried asking her sister about it, but her whole family are very defensive of the subject, which leads me to believe that it is either illegal, or morally wrong at best.

So - is there a way that a 20-something girl, with no kids, no disabilities, no job and no plans to get a job can legally just live completely funded by the government like that? Free house, free money, free studying?

I'm not planning on reporting her or anything. To be honest, I just want someone to reassure me that the government don't give away tax money that readily.


If she doesn't have a job and her family doesn't have a job I believe she is entitled to some grants plus her normal loans. You really need to back off as you have no right to ask her sister what she and her family are up to, I'm not surprised they got defensive and you are just "assuming" what they are doing.

Benefit fraud is very serious so be careful who you grass up. There are worse people committing benefit fraud these days, these include people who are working but claiming sick/JSA at the same time. People who claim to have children or have caress allowance but don't have a child or don't look after any one. People who say they are a single parent and don't live with any one but do.

There are plenty of people who do it and plenty of ways to do it, but I think you could be wrong and it's none of your business unless you are 100% sure they are committing fraud.
Is she doing that much harm? The tax we'll get off her future career will more than make up for whatever she's committing.

At least she's not sitting at home, watching Phil and Holly every morning followed by another sickening bout of David Dickinson.
There is such a thing as an Adult Learning Grant, it's EMA for adults.

You do not know that she is 'completely funded by the government' like anything, for all you know she could've been raped as a small child and the rapist paid her £150,000 in compensation or some other reason that the family do not wish to divulge to someone who is only a vague acquaintance!
Firstly there is no student loan available for the OU.
secondly If you are on a low income, you could receive job seekers allowance and/or housing benefit and council tax benefit. The fact you are doing a O U degree does not effect your entitlement to this as you are not classified as a student.
Thirdly mind your own business.
Reply 13
Libtolu
I don't think the open uni courses are the same as a normal uni as she doesn't physically attend a uni, therefore it is quite possible that she is on jsa, otherwise she could just be living of a loan if you can get them for open uni idk.

Possibly she has savings or a sponsor who pays for the flat, she may because she is living alone if she is on jsa get her rent paid for her but as i have said idk i would have t ask my mum.


That's what I was thinking. But if she's doing 120 points a year, which is the equivalent of full-time studying, then how can she say that she is also looking for a full-time job?

And there is most definitely no sponsor or savings paying for her rent.
You need to spend your time on something else.
Reply 15
Open University courses (under PhD level) are ALWAYS classed as part time study.
This year I did 180 points equvilant to full time + another 1/2 time and was still classed as part time. The reason being that the governments only have to pay £250ish a year grant and dont get any extra benifits (council tax exemption, CCG etc) that you would if you were classed as full time.

So it is perfectly possible to study full time with the OU and claim JSA, but they wont be getting the student loans, grants and all the rest that go with normal fulltime study.

Atleast they are doing something productive rather than just sitting around, and would cost the tax payer alot more if they went to normal uni full time :smile:
Reply 16
I think you really need to mind your own business.
Reply 17
hard to know without the full story which you can't give
Reply 18
kiss_me_now9
There is such a thing as an Adult Learning Grant, it's EMA for adults.

You do not know that she is 'completely funded by the government' like anything, for all you know she could've been raped as a small child and the rapist paid her £150,000 in compensation or some other reason that the family do not wish to divulge to someone who is only a vague acquaintance!


ALG is only £30 a week. You can't pay your rent and living costs with that.
Spanghew
A girl that I vaguely know lives in her own flat, and somehow can afford to live despite the fact that she doesn't have a job. I always just presumed that she got job seekers allowance or something, but then recently found out that she studies full-time with the Open University.

Surely she can't be getting JSA if she studies full-time, as she clearly isn't intending to get a job at any point in the next few years?

I tried asking her sister about it, but her whole family are very defensive of the subject, which leads me to believe that it is either illegal, or morally wrong at best.

So - is there a way that a 20-something girl, with no kids, no disabilities, no job and no plans to get a job can legally just live completely funded by the government like that? Free house, free money, free studying?

I'm not planning on reporting her or anything. To be honest, I just want someone to reassure me that the government don't give away tax money that readily.


its just that easy to claim benefits under Brown - Badger boy (Darling) and the rest

i wonder why our economy's gone down the toilet - hmmmmmmmmmmm

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