Why do Scousers hate the English?

You on about me?

Widnes are the worst offenders, after Mancs I suppose

Highly unlikely...

I've never really heard it put that explicitly. There is a "separateness" about Liverpool though, I think. It's like there's a Liverpool-ness which overrides the English-ness.

(eta: I am NOT a manc, by the way).

I have 2 scouse mates (both fans of Liverpool FC) and I discussed the England game to them (we lost 1-0 to Ukraine) and they said they weren't bothered. They said ''Were scousers we hate England'' I thought they were joking at first but they weren't.

I spoke about it to my Dad (who lived in Liverpool for 6 years) and he said it was true, many scousers dont associate themselves with England because of how England seems to dislike scousers like they dislike the Welsh, Scottish and Irish. I already knew scousers were a mixture of Irish, Scottish and Welsh (hence the accent) but I never knew they felt this way towards us.

I went back to my Scouse mates who claimed they both really wanted the Rep of Ireland to qualify for the World Cup ''We'd rather Ireland qualified than England'' WTF! I cant belive it, its really weird.

My mates showed me something on LFCTV, it was ''Top ten teams we love to hate'' and England was number 4! They're hatred for England was official, and then I found the video below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p9AWfmoF1c

Apparently many Scousers now support Spain, because of the arrival of Torres and all the other spanish players at LFC. Im not saying all scousers support Spain or hate England (they dont) I mean I doubt every LFC fan hates England and I doubt Everton fans feel the same way.

But this is weird, anyone from Liverpool care to explain lol why the hate? And is it like this anywhere else in the world? Is their a city that hates its own country?

It's because the English hate the scousers? iunno. But that's true of the South, largely.

Wayaye Man

If you think the South hates them, boy you haven't seen anything till you've gone to Manchester

Which I suppose does show that pretty much every city hates the chavvy type scouser. I don't mind the normal ones, who aren't total dick heads about football hooliganism and so on, though they're less common than in other big cities.

I'm quite shocked that they hate england though; I always was under the impression that because the football hooligans seem so passionate, they'd always stick up for England. Along with watching This is England, the scousers seem very patriotic (yeah I know films aren't always true, though it gave me the impression they were the most patriotic people there were).

Scousers deffo hate Mancs tho, and vice versa

I've never really got any abuse from mancs about being from liverpool, but I don't really have an accent and don't care about football. Liverpool is much more vocal about the Manc/Lpool hatred thing though, definitely, we've got a better sense of humour about it as well, though.

So you're from Liverpool but living in Manchester, I might be in that situation soo. Im nervous, will I get beat up lol?

I walk around with a big bag which says, "I love Liverpool" on it (you can get them from utility on bold street if you want one ) and I've worn it on match days and never got any hassle! So, no, you won't get beaten up. At least, not for being from Liverpool.

Scousers deffo hate Mancs tho, and vice versa lol

They have a soft spot for the Spanish tho, if you go into the LFC store theres Spain flags being sold (no English ones) and on the Kop theres spain, german and irish flags.

And look here: www.liverpoolfc.tv

The lfc channel has never shown and English game, and heres a Spain one