I don't get this argument?
Yeah, this guy didn't get great GCSEs - but in a job where you don't need great GCSEs (no offence intended), surely your attendance is more important than your academic ability? Not everybody is smart, but it reflects better on you if you at least turned up and tried.
I'd say it reflects well that you do have good attendance - but it may be worth speaking to the job centre about things like that, they'll know what people look for better than we do.
Yeh I guess you're right it just sounded as if he didn't actually DO many GCSEs but to be fair anyone can say they had great attendance, and unless you're going for a high up job, they're not gonna check it up lol but guess it's worth a mention...
Mentioning your school attendance (especially when you left school two years ago) to a potential employer is really scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Surely if I'm going for a job where all that is required is my attendance and doing the work they'll care about my attendance history? Surely something is better than nothing?
Originally Posted by Bhumbauze
You also have absolutely no chance of getting any administrative / data entry job without plenty of experience. Often they don't require experience but, these days, there are going to be 10+ others applying for the job who have experience anyway.
Not trying to put you off completely, I'm just saying... don't have too high hopes of getting a job quickly... it'll take a lot of applying, a lot of rejection, and take some time. To be honest, you might be best to try to get off the ground with some sort of Christmas temp work. But... that means... retail.
Although I know it's a bad time for employment and ****, I dunno if it's the case that jobs are that hard to find. My younger sister applied to one place and got the job, a friend did the same and also got the job, it definitely (in my opinion anyway) depends entirely on the person. I know just as many people who have struggled that have found it very easy. I guess it's hit and miss.
Also yeah, I don't expect to get a "good" job, I don't really mind, if I'm getting paid the minimum wage and I'm not doing something like retail where I'm dealing directly with customers I don't really care. Something in a warehouse moving boxes all day, I don't mind.
Mentioning your school attendance (especially when you left school two years ago) to a potential employer is really scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Most application forms I've done recently (granted, they were for shop-work, but still...) have asked for how many days I've taken off in any one year at my last place of employment/school.
It's not unnecessary information - maybe don't put it as a key point on your CV, but if it comes up you can mention it.
Most employers like having an idea of attendance anyway.
To the op: What have you been doing in the last two years?
Especially when you've done nothing in those 2 years...and anyway most of the time, children are forced to go to school by their parents...
I was always under the impression attendance was something employers cared about. Also I was probably one of the only people at my school with "good" attendance, attendance of less than 92% was the average.
To the op: What have you been doing in the last two years?
I left school with no idea what I wanted to do, in the september after I left my mum was like "You have to do something!" so she enrolled me in a college course which I quit a few months later, I then just sat around doing nothing from march until september then my mum once again enrolled me on another course in september but I'm not going to complete that.
I won't be mentioning any of that though I'll just say I did nothing for 2 years (well, 16 months?).
Most application forms I've done recently (granted, they were for shop-work, but still...) have asked for how many days I've taken off in any one year at my last place of employment/school.
It's not unnecessary information - maybe don't put it as a key point on your CV, but if it comes up you can mention it.
Most employers like having an idea of attendance anyway.
To the op: What have you been doing in the last two years?
Clearly if it's been asked of you, it's different from volunteering the information. Even so, that's not going to be a deciding factor for any job, at least not a positive one. They might decline to hire you if you say you've missed a lot of days, but they won't think 'Ooh this one looks good!' because you haven't missed any days.
Volunteering the information is like saying 'I have done what is expected of me by society and the law.' Will go nicely on your CV alongside 'I didn't have too many detentions in school' and 'I didn't punch any of my teachers.'
They've seriously asked how many days you took off at school??! I left school 4 years ago how the hell can you remember how many days you had off?? I understand the job one tho...
Mention it then it's not really gonna put you at a disadvantage is it? it could be a selling point I guess, but all I'm saying is, everyone could just say that and they're not gonna check it up..
Maybe try this website http://www.jobcentreplus.gov.uk/JCP/index.html
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I left school with no idea what I wanted to do, in the september after I left my mum was like "You have to do something!" so she enrolled me in a college course which I quit a few months later, I then just sat around doing nothing from march until september then my mum once again enrolled me on another course in september but I'm not going to complete that.
I won't be mentioning any of that though I'll just say I did nothing for 2 years (well, 16 months?).
If I were you, I would try and think of a way to rephrase that/embellish it (without outright lying, mind you).
I'm not after a job that requires skills, all these jobs advertised are the sort that require some level of intelligence for, I'm after a anyone-can-do job.
Although I know it's a bad time for employment and ****, I dunno if it's the case that jobs are that hard to find. My younger sister applied to one place and got the job, a friend did the same and also got the job, it definitely (in my opinion anyway) depends entirely on the person. I know just as many people who have struggled that have found it very easy. I guess it's hit and miss.
It is hit and miss... purely down to luck. The last town I lived in, I got the first job I applied for. This time round even though - obviously - I now have MORE experience than I did then, I've only had a couple of interviews out of a hell of a lot of applications. So it's not even about the person... a lot of the time you're lucky to get any sort of correspondence at all, let alone an interview.
That said, I did say it's also down to location. I'm currently in one of the hardest hit towns, in one of the hardest hit areas (the north west of England) which makes it harder. In cities you shouldn't have too much of a problem, you can cast your net wide and are much more likely to find something, but in small or medium sized towns it's not so easy, especially if there isn't the option of commuting. To travel to the nearest city, you have to find something paying well enough to cover the cost of running a car / public transport. Bit of a catch 22 really... it's easy to find work a bit further out, but you can't afford to get there. Hah.
definitely doesnt.....there's cleaning jobs and stuff there
You'd be surprised! Most cleaning jobs are looking for experience (why, I have no idea) and because of the lack of jobs, you can pretty much guarantee that at least one applicant will HAVE experience. Ironically, you're also more likely to get a job like that if you're 40+ and disabled in some way than if you're young, bright and able-bodied. The employer takes one look at you and assumes you'll leave as soon as you get a better offer. Of course... they're right.
This morning I woke up in a pool of ejaculation and despair, I've decided I finally need to man up and go and find and job and get on with my life. I'm 18 right now, I left school at 16 with only a couple of GCSEs and since I've done absolutely nothing.
There's a problem though, I have absolutely no idea how. I'm considering going to the job centre, but I have no idea if that's the place I should be going or if I should be going to individual places and applying. I'm not particularly thrilled about the idea of working in retail (I'd like to avoid it at all costs) I'd much prefer to either work in some sort of warehouse stacking boxes, moving stuff, whatever or work with data entry but I don't know where to "find" these jobs.
I need advice and fast! I need to start finding a job tomorrow. I don't really care about money, I'll be fine earning the minimum wage and hopefully my lack of qualifications will help me in finding such a job because the chances of me leaving for something better are minimal. I have a B in Science, a C in Additional Science, a C in Maths and a D in English. I have a few other GCSEs to, but nothing worth mentioning. I also had an excellent attendance record, which will hopefully help in this adventure. I had around 2 days off school per year at most (99.7% attendance or similar).
So how do I find a job? Do I just go to the job centre and say "Hello, I need a job" and look at what they offer me, or does it not work like that? I don't have a clue about any of this.
Your help is much appreciated!
your entitled to jobseekers allowance - that's 50 quid a week - but you have to prove you've been looking for work and actually be willing to work - you do that at your local jobcentre
the jobcentre in my experience didn't do much in the way of helping me find a job - but were more to do with the paying of the benefit
i found my job at marks and sparks on directgov.com - you click on job search and basically put in 'all jobs in....' - like i live in enfield so i put 'all jobs in enfield' and it gives you a whole list - apart from that ask reletives about openings where they work, local paper - i've had one temporary position already in my gap year and i start at M&S on Friday - you jus have to be willing to work and get a bit lucky
You'd be surprised! Most cleaning jobs are looking for experience (why, I have no idea) and because of the lack of jobs, you can pretty much guarantee that at least one applicant will HAVE experience. Ironically, you're also more likely to get a job like that if you're 40+ and disabled in some way than if you're young, bright and able-bodied. The employer takes one look at you and assumes you'll leave as soon as you get a better offer. Of course... they're right.
Well I got one at the Hilton Hotel just fine, I'm 19 and had no "experience" and am not disabled... to be fair the majority there were polish and older but I still got the job along with a load of people my age, like me. I left after two days ha but still...you're bound to get some if you apply to loads...
your entitled to jobseekers allowance - that's 50 quid a week - but you have to prove you've been looking for work and actually be willing to work - you do that at your local jobcentre
the jobcentre in my experience didn't do much in the way of helping me find a job - but were more to do with the paying of the benefit
i found my job at marks and sparks on directgov.com - you click on job search and basically put in 'all jobs in....' - like i live in enfield so i put 'all jobs in enfield' and it gives you a whole list - apart from that ask reletives about openings where they work, local paper - i've had one temporary position already in my gap year and i start at M&S on Friday - you jus have to be willing to work and get a bit lucky
good luck
He's not just looking for money, he said that, I think he's looking for more of a purpose to life....
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it just sounded as if he didn't actually DO many GCSEs but to be fair anyone can say they had great attendance, and unless you're going for a high up job, they're not gonna check it up lol but guess it's worth a mention...
I'll just say I did nothing for 2 years (well, 16 months?).
on directgov.com - you click on job search and basically put in 'all jobs in....' - like i live in enfield so i put 'all jobs in enfield' and it gives you a whole list - apart from that ask reletives about openings where they work, local paper - i've had one temporary position already in my gap year and i start at M&S on Friday - you jus have to be willing to work and get a bit lucky 
