[SPMS]

(Original post by addylad)
This can be caused by incorrect footwear, amongst other things.

went on a run today and it seems to fine now?
put it down to bad posture?

[addylad]

(Original post by SPMS)
went on a run today and it seems to fine now?
put it down to bad posture?

It could easily reoccur. Keep an eye on it, and whenever you get pain, make a note of the date, footwear, surface, conditions, etc. You could well see that with the same footwear on the same surface, you have the pain multiple times.

[SPMS]

(Original post by addylad)
It could easily reoccur. Keep an eye on it, and whenever you get pain, make a note of the date, footwear, surface, conditions, etc. You could well see that with the same footwear on the same surface, you have the pain multiple times.

Yeah I will.
I tend to keep to off road tracks - I heard that is better.
I did have a break for three days which I don't usually do - three days on - one day off and so forth but if it reoccurs is it something I should see the doctor about?

[RedKitty]

So I went for a quick run this morning, only 2km so I was going fairly fast, but I looked at my heart rate monitor at the end and it had reached 200bpm. I often sprint the last bits of my runs and it usually gets in the 190s, I was just wondering if people think that pushing your heart rate so high is a bad thing (or a good thing)?

[addylad]

(Original post by RedKitty)
So I went for a quick run this morning, only 2km so I was going fairly fast, but I looked at my heart rate monitor at the end and it had reached 200bpm. I often sprint the last bits of my runs and it usually gets in the 190s, I was just wondering if people think that pushing your heart rate so high is a bad thing (or a good thing)?

Check out your HR zones. First you find your MHR (max heart rate) - there are various ways to do this. Then find your RHR (resting heart rate) and subtract this from your MHR. This is your WHR. Brianmac is a good site for heart rate zones. Normally you convert the %WHR to bpm, and then add this to your RHR.

[thepinkpowerranger]

(Original post by Serentonin)
Couple tris coming up (UK HIM which should be good) and a few local 10ks, so really getting into training now. Weathers just about warm enough to chuck shorts on instead of leggings which is nice.

I remember you from the weightlifting thread! Out of interest how fast do you do a 10 k and a sprint tri (if you do the sprint length!)?

I went for a run outside today in my winter running tights (and a tshirt obv). Today was probably the hottest day I've ever run in and I don't know whether it was because I was trying to run faster or because I was hot and dehydrated but I suffered. Have to wear less clothes and drink more water especially cos I have a 10 k race on Sunday.

[bananalala]

Did about 6k today it was quite a nice run chilled out.. definitely not in my hall of fame though! Always lifts the mood

[dirtyoldriver]

Erm, I'm looking for newbie advice, does anybody have any tips on breathing? I've done a few shortish (about 3 1/2k - I know it's not very impressive but I am at pretty much base level fitness as in not at all ) runs now and it's one of the things I find that holds me back the most, it feels very forced and uncomfortable. I've tried doing it in a rhythm with my strides but it still feels like I'm not getting enough air in, it's like my lungs shrink! I've tried running through it but I tend to get a bit panicky which doesn't help. My body/muscles feel fine, it's just breathing issues that tend to make me stop when I know I could keep going which is frustrating

[Motorbiker]

(Original post by dirtyoldriver)
Erm, I'm looking for newbie advice, does anybody have any tips on breathing? I've done a few shortish (about 3 1/2k - I know it's not very impressive but I am at pretty much base level fitness as in not at all ) runs now and it's one of the things I find that holds me back the most, it feels very forced and uncomfortable. I've tried doing it in a rhythm with my strides but it still feels like I'm not getting enough air in, it's like my lungs shrink! I've tried running through it but I tend to get a bit panicky which doesn't help. My body/muscles feel fine, it's just breathing issues that tend to make me stop when I know I could keep going which is frustrating

I'm a n00b and will probably be corrected by addylad or Apocylapte(or however you spell it)...

But i breath in for 2 strides and out for 2 strides... Seems to work well for me but i'm a n00b that runs the occasional slow 5k..

Think someone asked in here before and addylad answered with some long answer so maybe try searching the thread?

[danzino]

First run for a few months... did 5k in just over 26 minutes. Was fairly happy considering I though my cardio would have totally dropped off by now!

I'm not too ambitious with where I want to get to, just want to be able to do 10k in <45 minutes again.

[SteveBwfc]

(Original post by dirtyoldriver)
Erm, I'm looking for newbie advice, does anybody have any tips on breathing? I've done a few shortish (about 3 1/2k - I know it's not very impressive but I am at pretty much base level fitness as in not at all ) runs now and it's one of the things I find that holds me back the most, it feels very forced and uncomfortable. I've tried doing it in a rhythm with my strides but it still feels like I'm not getting enough air in, it's like my lungs shrink! I've tried running through it but I tend to get a bit panicky which doesn't help. My body/muscles feel fine, it's just breathing issues that tend to make me stop when I know I could keep going which is frustrating

Breathing will always be the limiting factor to begin with. Try running slower? As you gain fitness, you will see that you create your own rythm for breathing. Which can sometimes change on certain days, because of loads of different reasons. But you will eventually get to a stage where you dont notice your breathing, which is always nice, as it pushes your attention on to how cr*p your legs feel

(Original post by MHorman)
I'm a n00b and will probably be corrected by addylad or Apocylapte(or however you spell it)...

But i breath in for 2 strides and out for 2 strides... Seems to work well for me but i'm a n00b that runs the occasional slow 5k..

Think someone asked in here before and addylad answered with some long answer so maybe try searching the thread?

I do exactly that too, it seems comfortable to me...think i breath in in 2 goes, both times my feet hit the ground, then out in 2 goes, its weird...

[addylad]

(Original post by dirtyoldriver)
Erm, I'm looking for newbie advice, does anybody have any tips on breathing? I've done a few shortish (about 3 1/2k - I know it's not very impressive but I am at pretty much base level fitness as in not at all ) runs now and it's one of the things I find that holds me back the most, it feels very forced and uncomfortable. I've tried doing it in a rhythm with my strides but it still feels like I'm not getting enough air in, it's like my lungs shrink! I've tried running through it but I tend to get a bit panicky which doesn't help. My body/muscles feel fine, it's just breathing issues that tend to make me stop when I know I could keep going which is frustrating

As MHorman said really.

The post he mentioned: http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...postcount=1994

HTH.

[dirtyoldriver]

(Original post by MHorman)
I'm a n00b and will probably be corrected by addylad or Apocylapte(or however you spell it)...

But i breath in for 2 strides and out for 2 strides... Seems to work well for me but i'm a n00b that runs the occasional slow 5k..

Think someone asked in here before and addylad answered with some long answer so maybe try searching the thread?

(Original post by SteveBwfc)
Breathing will always be the limiting factor to begin with. Try running slower? As you gain fitness, you will see that you create your own rythm for breathing. Which can sometimes change on certain days, because of loads of different reasons. But you will eventually get to a stage where you dont notice your breathing, which is always nice, as it pushes your attention on to how cr*p your legs feel

(Original post by addylad)
As MHorman said really.

The post he mentioned: http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...postcount=1994

HTH.

Thank you for the advice all of you I am going again today in a few hours, I have been doing the 2-2 method but I will vary it a bit today and see what's more comfortable. The person I run with breathes ridiculously slowly which is pretty off putting but I'll have to block that out and do my own thing! Hopefully after a few more goes I'll be less conscious of it, it's thinking about it the whole time which is the main issue because it's so unnatural compared to breathing in every day life.

[rufus_da_bear]

Hey, can anyone help me with a major stitch problem iv been getting lately?

Iv been running for about a year so im fine with breathing and all that. Since iv been home, iv been out for 3 runs and iv been getting steadily worse stitches when iv been going downhill. Today my stitch hurt so much that i decided to sprint just so i could get home quicker and lie in pain there. Running uphill and flat is absolutely fine, and i thought running downhill was alright (usually run about 20 miles a week in plymouth over hilly terrain and im fine) but since iv been home its been getting a lot worse. And its making my time worse, it took me an hour to do 5.5 miles today (pretty bad for me) The stitch always goes away when i run uphill, but today it was not so bad on the first downhill and then really bad on the last downhill (hence sprinting home)

Has anyone got any ideas whats happening to me? i thought it perhaps could be my shoes arnt providing enough cushioning going downhill (Iv needed new ones for ages but waiting for my student loan to come in!) but otherwise i just cant think whats going on. If anyone can provide insight it would be much appreciated

[addylad]

(Original post by rufus_da_bear)
Hey, can anyone help me with a major stitch problem iv been getting lately?

Iv been running for about a year so im fine with breathing and all that. Since iv been home, iv been out for 3 runs and iv been getting steadily worse stitches when iv been going downhill. Today my stitch hurt so much that i decided to sprint just so i could get home quicker and lie in pain there. Running uphill and flat is absolutely fine, and i thought running downhill was alright (usually run about 20 miles a week in plymouth over hilly terrain and im fine) but since iv been home its been getting a lot worse. And its making my time worse, it took me an hour to do 5.5 miles today (pretty bad for me) The stitch always goes away when i run uphill, but today it was not so bad on the first downhill and then really bad on the last downhill (hence sprinting home)

Has anyone got any ideas whats happening to me? i thought it perhaps could be my shoes arnt providing enough cushioning going downhill (Iv needed new ones for ages but waiting for my student loan to come in!) but otherwise i just cant think whats going on. If anyone can provide insight it would be much appreciated

There are various theories about the causes of stitches, one being that the liver and/or stomach pulls on the diaphragm, causing pain. Nobody really knows (there could be multiple causes).

Adjusting your stride so that you inhale on the opposite foot, or changing your breathing rhythm temporarily, may help. In theory this would alleviate your symptoms. You should also be able to run it off (I tend to do it without slowing down, but you may decide to slow down or stop, if necessary). I'm not sure how much changing your trainers would help, unless it just reduces the shock travelling up your legs and into your midriff. I'd recommend buying multiple pairs of the same trainers, and alternate them (each pair lasts longer, you get to wear nice dry trainers each day, and you can avoid having to go shopping for another pair for a long time).

[masterswapy]

(Original post by RedKitty)
So I went for a quick run this morning, only 2km so I was going fairly fast, but I looked at my heart rate monitor at the end and it had reached 200bpm. I often sprint the last bits of my runs and it usually gets in the 190s, I was just wondering if people think that pushing your heart rate so high is a bad thing (or a good thing)?

First of all before reading what i say, I am assuming you have no heart problems or anything.

Personally im not a great fan of checking heart rates but i am a rower who is a part time runner, and during our ergo sessions, a lot of the club does use heart rate monitors.

I wouldnt get too worried about heart rates, and the rise in the heart rate may be just because of stuff like being slightly ill, tired from previous training, not enough sleep, or maybe not enough prep before the run (ie stretches).

Iv been running for about 3 years now, and i mainly compete in longer distances such as 10ks, 1.5 or 5k on the track and then general cross country season, and I train by the times i achieve and how my body feels.

For example, when i am doing sprints, I go all out, and by the end of the session, i expect my body to feel fatigued and pretty soar.

In slightly longer pieces such as 2 or 3ks, i try and make my work more aerobic but i do expect it get tough near the end, and I make sure I get to the point where im using will power to keep the speed up. I would normaly train at about 105-110% or my race pace for 10k.

I normaly do 5k for active recovery, and would normally try and do them at maybe 95% of my 10k race pace. I aim to feel as if my muscles are slightly tighter by the end, and should be fine after a couple of stretches at the end a bit of a breather.

And finally for longer runs such as 10k or 12k (over training) i normally aim to do it at 80%-90% (ofcourse, unless if im doing a mock race, in which case, always aim for 110% ) of race pace, and I aim for the same feeling as i should from 5k, muscles slightly stretched, maybe slightly fatigued.

Hope that helps.

[Motorbiker]

Attempted 5k run this morning... Failed epically...

Crashed my offroad bike last week and badly hurt my right foot by by yesterday i could walk on it fine so i thought i'd enter the parkrun anyway...

About 1.6k in the small pain at the start had gone to such crazy high levels i had to stop and rest it...

With a minute or so of resting and then walking/limping/hobbling/occasionally jogging when a fat person overtook me i finished in 29 dead. Only about 2 mins slower than last time and 3 mins slower than my best... wtf... i was convinced the time was gonna be like 37 or something...

Gives me confidence for next time when my foot is slightly less dead... Also, may start doing another run midweek to go with my occasional weekend 5k.
What would be the best to do? Qucik 1600m OR HIIT or slower paced run up to about 10k? Or shall i do all of these basically. I have a few rest days from lifting and want to get my running less crap... Current 5k PB is 25:48 and i want it under 25 mins soonish and over time i want it down like 22 mins and one day under 20 mins...

[addylad]

(Original post by MHorman)
Attempted 5k run this morning... Failed epically...

Crashed my offroad bike last week and badly hurt my right foot by by yesterday i could walk on it fine so i thought i'd enter the parkrun anyway...

About 1.6k in the small pain at the start had gone to such crazy high levels i had to stop and rest it...

With a minute or so of resting and then walking/limping/hobbling/occasionally jogging when a fat person overtook me i finished in 29 dead. Only about 2 mins slower than last time and 3 mins slower than my best... wtf... i was convinced the time was gonna be like 37 or something...

Gives me confidence for next time when my foot is slightly less dead... Also, may start doing another run midweek to go with my occasional weekend 5k.
What would be the best to do? Qucik 1600m OR HIIT or slower paced run up to about 10k? Or shall i do all of these basically. I have a few rest days from lifting and want to get my running less crap... Current 5k PB is 25:48 and i want it under 25 mins soonish and long run i want it down like 22 and one day under 20 mins...

Probably the slow run. If your long run is about 20 mins you want to be running slower, and upping the distance. The aim is to build your long run, not to make it faster. Good luck.

[Motorbiker]

(Original post by addylad)
Probably the slow run. If your long run is about 20 mins you want to be running slower, and upping the distance. The aim is to build your long run, not to make it faster. Good luck.

I worded that last bit badly. That was just talking about 5k aims...

But yea, if i can get in a decent long run each week going further each time until i can get a slow run at long pace. 10k should come soonish hopefully...

[rufus_da_bear]

(Original post by addylad)
There are various theories about the causes of stitches, one being that the liver and/or stomach pulls on the diaphragm, causing pain. Nobody really knows (there could be multiple causes).

Adjusting your stride so that you inhale on the opposite foot, or changing your breathing rhythm temporarily, may help. In theory this would alleviate your symptoms. You should also be able to run it off (I tend to do it without slowing down, but you may decide to slow down or stop, if necessary). I'm not sure how much changing your trainers would help, unless it just reduces the shock travelling up your legs and into your midriff. I'd recommend buying multiple pairs of the same trainers, and alternate them (each pair lasts longer, you get to wear nice dry trainers each day, and you can avoid having to go shopping for another pair for a long time).

i might just do that with the trainers; its always annoying when you next go shopping and they dont have the same ones so your feet have to get used to a different shape of shoe again! ill try swapping my feet/breathing patterns next time aswell. thanks