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Quiet BBC reporter lashes out at two drunken yobs after being punched and harrassed

Reply 40

Kagutsuchi

20

At 1:50 the chav seems to want a hug. This proves my theory that chavs just want love. :h:

Reply 41

secretmessages

18

Haha, awesome :awesome:

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Reply 42

PeterR

10

Since when could the police throw you into a van and take you away without even talking to you?

Reply 43

+ polarity -

21

He put the KHAAAAAAAAAN in Shotokan!

:o:

Spoiler

Reply 44

Good bloke

19

ChemistBoy

I'd encourage him to work on his conflict avoidance in future.

I'm not sure how he could have done better. If you watch the CCTV you'll see that he walked away every time, until it was clear that they wouldn't let him get away. He did everything he could to avoid confrontation.

Reply 45

Good bloke

19

PeterR

Since when could the police throw you into a van and take you away without even talking to you?

From the moment you commit a crime. No doubt they made the arrest clear by muttering "you're nicked, Sonny Jim" even as they bundled the miscreants into the van.

Reply 46

DJkG.1

17

Pads

Love the way the police finally pulled up and they were in the back of the van straight away!

Yeah that made me smile too. :biggrin:

With such competence and ease too. That cop must be doing that all day, every day.

rogerbarton

Well they're all as bad as eah other

Did you not watch the CCTV video? :s-smilie:

Reply 47

ChemistBoy

16

Good bloke

I'm not sure how he could have done better. If you watch the CCTV you'll see that he walked away every time, until it was clear that they wouldn't let him get away. He did everything he could to avoid confrontation.

You'd have to look at the actions prior to initial contact or awareness to review conflict avoidance activity. Simply walking away from a situation that has developed is not conflict avoidance, it is taking steps to limit the occurance of the situation in the first place.

Reply 48

Good bloke

19

BeanofJelly

he did presumably call the police

The whole incident was being monitored on CCTV - the source of the video - so the control room almost certainly sent the van in without the incident having to be reported. It shows the value of having monitored CCTV.

Reply 49

Good bloke

19

ChemistBoy

You'd have to look at the actions prior to initial contact or awareness to review conflict avoidance activity. Simply walking away from a situation that has developed is not conflict avoidance, it is taking steps to limit the occurance of the situation in the first place.

I see what you mean. We haven't been shown that, but he certainly tried to mitigate the situation - he walked away after having a pint of beer thrown over him.

Reply 50

ChemistBoy

16

Good bloke

I see what you mean. We haven't been shown that, but he certainly tried to mitigate the situation - he walked away after having a pint of beer thrown over him.

Indeed, there was nothing he could do once the situation had begun, luckily he had the training to be decisive and end the confrontation in his favour when it turned violent. A knife or gun might have made the outcome a bit different and you simply don't know what people are carrying these days.

Reply 51

Reems

14

Prudy

Why bother with the uniiversity snobbery?

Merely an analogy for his stupidity and lack of reasoning.
Apologies if my analogy is incorrect...

Reply 52

Good bloke

19

ChemistBoy

Indeed, there was nothing he could do once the situation had begun, luckily he had the training to be decisive and end the confrontation in his favour when it turned violent. A knife or gun might have made the outcome a bit different and you simply don't know what people are carrying these days.

That's right, which is why his attempt to get away was the right thing to do. Only a blithering idiot would attempt to carry out a citizen's arrest on a single perpetrator in those circumstances, never mind against two. Perhaps the English course at Trinity includes some unusual and specialised modules I'm not aware of, though.

Reply 53

KateBux

My Uncle came to the defense of a woman who was being harassed (physically) on the train, not using violence, but by talking to the man doing the harassing. He got a punch in the back of his head from a friend of the man for his trouble. His initial judgement was to react violently, like the man in the video, he didn't immediatly hit back, he got off the train at the next station. He was followed off the train by the two men who attacked him again and knocked him out, cutting his head open. What does rogerbarton think my uncle should have done differently? He personally thinks decking the two guys after they first punched him would have been a better solution. I assume you would disagree?

Reply 54

Teebs

16

ChemistBoy

To be honest, I would have expected someone with a black belt in a marshall art to use more sophisticated and appropriate control measures than risking a kick to the head. He clearly lost his temper which is a dangerous thing to do in such a situation - I certainly don't blame him but I'd encourage him to work on his conflict avoidance in future.

I've been doing martial arts for over 10 years and I can assure you what he did was sensible. He does karate which isn't a grappling art, so relying on being able to restrain someone would be very foolish (being very good at kicking and punching people doesn't give you magical wrestling abilities). He also had to deal with two of them, and so if he tried to restrain one of them the other would probably have attacked him. Basically trying to restrain someone when they have a mate with them when you don't really know much about grappling is asking to have the crap beaten out of you.

On the subject of losing his temper, it's pretty clear to me that he didn't from watching the video. He made a rational decision that it had gone far enough and then dropped the person. He didn't actually kick them in the head, he kicked them in the leg/groin and punched them in the head/face. The techniques were too precise and too limited for him to have just lost it.

My only criticism of him would be that I think he should have done more to the man he hit. Not because of any internet tough guy type thinking but for his own safety. Once you've started using violence you should make sure the fight is over before you stop. I don't mean you should kick someone who is on the floor's head in, but if you're going to stay or have to deal with a second person you should hit them again to make sure they stay down or you should run so that if they do get back up they can't keep attacking you.

Therefore, in my (at least somewhat) expert opinion he was actually more restrained than he should have been. Kudos to him.

Reply 55

CasinoBrawl

11

vas876

How did he keep his cool so long.

I would have lashed out so much earlier and been in jail for GHB.

I think you mean "GBH"? Probably best not to make that mistake too often, rofl.

Reply 56

carcinoma

17

CasinoBrawl

I think you mean "GBH"? Probably best not to make that mistake too often, rofl.

Loooool, oops.

the date rape drug, that makes my cooment sound huillarious.

Reply 57

Fusion

20

burningnun

He didn't kick the guy in the head, he kicked him in either the nuts or leg and then dropped him with a right hand. The good karate guys never seem to kick people in the head, which is something that happens in movies and combat sports, not the streets. Same deal with the guy who defended himself at his house a while back. Nothing flashy just a really fast and really accurate punch in the face. Good times.

These incidents/videos seem to be in vogue at the moment, has anyone else noticed that? Obviously the poster who thinks violence never solved anything hasn't because he doesn't have the capacity to think, but has anyone else noticed?

Yep; comeuppence is really taking off at the moment:

An Englishman's home is his castle
Crossing Crossdressers

All within the last month

Reply 58

Age_of_Innocence

2

I commend his patience, to go that long without reacting. As for the other ruffians, straight to the workhouse with you boys!

Reply 59

rogerbarton

I love the people who've pos repped me for this

We clearly do have some peaceful people on this site

Quiet BBC reporter lashes out at two drunken yobs after being punched and harrassed

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