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Old 2 Weeks Ago: 6th November 2009 23:43 #1 
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Hi,

The word "chav" is a throw away term on TSR, and I think this is merely a microcosm of a much greater social issue of the UK.

When you say "chav", the pejorative often includes some kind of stereotypical image, attitude or ideology (or lack of). Funnily enough, this often leads to sweeping social and professional discrimination of a great majority of people - who simply can not either afford to escape assigned epithet, or simply do see any valid (and I would agree) reason to do so - but yet may actually contribute to society within their means.

The point is, the intended notion does not include all those arbitrarily assigned its motif.

I myself am also against anti-social and inappropriate behavior in our streets and our society as a whole - but it simply does not do to take the sweeping, bigoted and plainly ignorant term "chav" as the actual definition to the problem. Further, it clearly does not work. This generic and plainly pathetic term, does nothing more then exasperate the genuine sub-verse social issue in British Society.

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What an efficient display of idiocy.
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"Chavs" are obnoxious douchebags. It's an attitude and a culture tied in part to socioeconomic status and social class, not just exclusively social class.
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Default Re: The word "chav" is class hatred
 
Originally Posted by SEALOFAPPROVAL
Hi,

The word "chav" is a throw away term on TSR, and I think this is merely a microcosm of a much greater social issue of the UK.

When you say "chav", the pejorative often includes some kind of stereotypical image, attitude or ideology (or lack of). Funnily enough, this often leads to sweeping social and professional discrimination of a great majority of people - who simply can not either afford to escape assigned epithet, or simply do see any valid (and I would agree) reason to do so - but yet may actually contribute to society within their means.

The point is, the intended notion does not include all those arbitrarily assigned its motif.

I myself am also against anti-social and inappropriate behavior in our streets and our society as a whole - but it simply does not do to take the sweeping, bigoted and plainly ignorant term "chav" as the actual definition to the problem. Further, it clearly does not work. This generic and plainly pathetic term, does nothing more then exasperate the genuine sub-verse social issue in British Society.

I think you're a bit odd, but I'm a student at university so that's not surprise.

however I agree with you on this.
 
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Originally Posted by SEALOFAPPROVAL
Hi,

The word "chav" is a throw away term on TSR, and I think this is merely a microcosm of a much greater social issue of the UK.

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Originally Posted by SEALOFAPPROVAL
What an efficient display of idiocy.

I'm tired and can't be bothered to discuss the exasperation of "the genuine sub-verse social issue in British Society" with someone who wishes they had the vocabulary of Profesh.
 
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would people describe you as a "chav" OP?

"discrimination of a great majority of people - who simply can not either afford to escape assigned epithet, or simply do see any valid (and I would agree) reason to do so."

this is BS. you think nike track suits are cheaper than than primark jeans? you argue ppl like to dress like the stereotypical "chav" but are not actually "chavs". how many people do you know who arent manu fans wear manu jerseys? quite few id imagine. its the same principal.

read the book "kleider machen leute" or its english translation (means basically "you are what you dress" or summin).

stop trying to come up with supposedly clever arguments to look smart.
 
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Default Re: The word "chav" is class hatred
 
It is not class hatred it's a group of people within that class, in this case a group within the working class sector of our population. Usually referring to anti social idiots between the ages of early teens to early-mid twenties.
 
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stop trying to come up with supposedly clever arguments to look smart.

This.
 
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You can get rich chavs.
 
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What? You can be a chav whatever social class you belong to.
 
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But not the bed notch count.

Then instead of coming up with relatively pointless arguments on the internet, work on catching up to his bed notch count.
 
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Oh please, here comes the klan of people with a guilty conscience
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Chav has become more of a way of behaving and showing yourself.
 
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Worst. Argument. Ever.
 
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What? You can be a chav whatever social class you belong to.

Yes but they are just posers and just trying to fit in. Its not like they are forced to wear cheap and tacky crap like the real chavs from the council estates.
 
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Oh please, here comes the klan of people with a guilty conscience


dude your a douche. this has nothing to do with conscience. and you havnt even replied to the criticisms of your post.

at least stand up for your view and stop being a *******
 
 
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