The Fort Hood killings have nothing to do with Hasan being Muslim!
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What a load of ********!
He shouted 'Allah Akbar' (God is great) while shooting.
He was a very devout Muslim.
He praised suicide bombers in Iraq.
Why are people scared of seeing the very obvious link between Islam/Muslims and terrorism around the world?
'Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslim' (in 99% of cases)
Something must be done to combat Islamic terrorism, by far the biggest threat to humanity now (global warming isn't killing killing anyone now, is it?)
You have to look at in the bigger picture: terrorists in Afghanistan (Taliban), Iraq (insurgents), Gaza (Hamas), Lebanon (Hizbullah), Iran (Ahmadinejad), list goes on and on. They're all pieces in a massive puzzle.
I do not hate Muslims, or blame all Muslims at all, but it must be something to do with the religion. How many Sikhks, Hindus, Christians, Buddhists etc go on shooting sprees and blow themselves up in crowded areas? Is it simply coincidence, time and time again?
Also, please put forward serious sensible suggestions to sort out Islamic extremism. Is there anything we can do about it, before we live in constant fear?
Re: The Fort Hood killings have nothing to do with Hasan being Muslim!
It's been estimated that 20% of Muslims are extremist or fundamentalist .. and the other majority that are still frighteningly reactionary by the standards of the west.
Many a general has said "the only solution to extremism is killing the extremist". It is implausible, both on humanitarian and realistic grounds, to suggest wiping out 250 million people.
I think the answer to Islamic extremism is one the west does not wish to hear .. but i imagine it would involve invading, occupying, forcing democracy and liberalism on and then leaving countries, as has been done in Iraq, for example.
But it was a long time ago when Liberalism and Interventionism were commonly aligned in aims if not reasons. And i think it'll be a long time before they are aligned again, if ever.
Re: The Fort Hood killings have nothing to do with Hasan being Muslim!
Originally Posted by Lefty Leo
I think the answer to Islamic extremism is one the west does not wish to hear .. but i imagine it would involve invading, occupying, forcing democracy and liberalism on and then leaving countries, as has been done in Iraq, for example.
Won't that give them more of an excuse to be extremist and attack the west?
Re: The Fort Hood killings have nothing to do with Hasan being Muslim!
Originally Posted by Roberto_Ferrari
Won't that give them more of an excuse to be extremist and attack the west?
Nobody said it would be easy.
It's either that or a "quarantine" or "boycott". I imagine when the oil runs out most of the world won't really want to have much to do with the Muslim countries.
Re: The Fort Hood killings have nothing to do with Hasan being Muslim!
Originally Posted by Lefty Leo
Nobody said it would be easy.
It's either that or a "quarantine" or "boycott". I imagine when the oil runs out most of the world won't really want to have much to do with the Muslim countries.
What about all the terrorists who are 'British' or 'American'?
But I agree with you....slightly. He did it so that he didn't have to kill fellow muslims in Iraq (I think?) so it does have something to do with him being Muslim...
Re: The Fort Hood killings have nothing to do with Hasan being Muslim!
Originally Posted by Chrrye
Think banning idiocy is impossible otherwise someone should definitely have done it by now...
Not blanket "idiocy". There are different types of idiocy.
Idiocy that is based around loving thy neighbour is very different to idiocy based around forcibly converting him to your faith under the threat of violence.
Re: The Fort Hood killings have nothing to do with Hasan being Muslim!
The shooting per se no. He put up that mass murder because:
1. He didn't want to go to Iraq and didn't see a way out.
2. He was servilely harassed by his fellow soldiers.....because he was Muslim.
If he wasn't put in this situation he wouldn't have done anything and he wouldn't have hated his fellow soldiers. This wasn't a terrorist attack in praise of Allah.
Re: The Fort Hood killings have nothing to do with Hasan being Muslim!
Originally Posted by Chrrye
What are the correct figures?
There have been 462 suicide terrorist attacks since 1980, over half were secular, the world leader is the Tamil Tigers they are a Marxist group, over a half of Muslim attacks are secular by groups such as PKK.
95% of all suicide attacks do not have a religious or ideological but a specific strategic goal to compel modern democracies to withdraw combat forces from territory they believe as their homeland
Every single terrorist attack since 1980 has had as its central objective to compel a democratic state from territory the terrorists prize.
Re: The Fort Hood killings have nothing to do with Hasan being Muslim!
Originally Posted by theBOON
The shooting per se no. He put up that mass murder because:
1. He didn't want to go to Iraq and didn't see a way out.
2. He was servilely harassed by his fellow soldiers.....because he was Muslim.
If he wasn't put in this situation he wouldn't have done anything and he wouldn't have hated his fellow soldiers. This wasn't a terrorist attack in praise of Allah.
Are you proud of being an apologist for terrorism? There are no excuses for the despicable acts. Why the hell did he shout Allahu Akbar if he was doing it because he didn't want to go to Iraq?
Re: The Fort Hood killings have nothing to do with Hasan being Muslim!
haha, you guys are all idiots: and I love you for that. Honestly, inane solutions to problems you don't even understand, posting on a forum which will do nothing but massage ego's, and intelligence relative to other idiots who post here. Please continue, however; i find myself mesmerised by the folly of it all :P
P.S, i can see how snobby and prissy the post sounds, and im officially O.K with that
Re: The Fort Hood killings have nothing to do with Hasan being Muslim!
Originally Posted by theBOON
I'm Maltese and I know about it and you don't?
People in this country are too scared to say the truth. They always try to find a reason other than their crazy religion/warped view of a normal religion. See you can't call me a 'racist' or any other rubbish now.
Informal discussion on any topic (within reason). Use the 'Chat' forum for informal talking.
The Fort Hood killings have nothing to do with Hasan being Muslim!
Not blanket "idiocy". There are different types of idiocy.
