Soldiers deserve footballers wages!

Well as I reside in a capitalist country where success is based on wealth it means they deserve it.

When someone says "Oh Jack's doing well for himself" they mean it in terms of how well off he is.

Based on morals they probably don't deserve it, but money makes the world go round.

What? Capitalism doesn't say anybody deserves anything. Success being based on wealth has nothing to do with the question of whether capitalism is just. It says what people are entitled to which is completely different. Again, you say that 'money makes the world go around' as if this fact justifies it.

We are all very grateful to the soldiers who risked and lost their lives in both World Wars, but is there much to be grateful about those in Afghanistan or Iraq? Perhaps that was just Bush and Blair in their thirst for oil, but unlike the 1940s, these current soldiers had the choice to sign on. Like I asked in another thread earlier; would you run across a motorway to save your family? Would you run across a motorway as a job?

Well as I reside in a capitalist country where success is based on wealth it means they deserve it.

When someone says "Oh Jack's doing well for himself" they mean it in terms of how well off he is.

Based on morals they probably don't deserve it, but money makes the world go round.

All I am saying is that if the footballers make large sums of money for their clubs surely they should have large salaries.

If I went fishing with my friend and I caught ten fish and he only caught one then I would deserve to get paid more when we sold them.

If you bring in lots of money you deserve to be paid with accordingly high amounts.

Nope, gravity makes the world go round. Money spreads evil and corruption.

We are all very grateful to the soldiers who risked and lost their lives in both World Wars, but is there much to be grateful about those in Afghanistan or Iraq? Perhaps that was just Bush and Blair in their thirst for oil, but unlike the 1940s, these current soldiers had the choice to sign on. Like I asked in another thread earlier; would you run across a motorway to save your family? Would you run across a motorway as a job?

I completely agree with this - soldiers join the Army in the full knowledge that it will involve harsh conditions and death; shooting people and living with the possibility of getting killed is part of the job description. I'm not saying that soldiers don't deserve our support, of course they do because they do a tough job. But to treat each and every soldir as a "hero" mystifies me. For those who go out of their way to help others, such as that guy who threw himself on top of a bomb to protect his fellow soldiers, that's heroism. But being sent to Iraq/Afghanistan to fight the enemy, as part of his job? Is that so "heroic", seeing as they joined knowing they will be sent by a government to fight?

Similarly, those who have had to suffer amputation or other war wounds - it's one of the drawbacks of the job. They're hugely brave, obviously, to go and do a job where it is obvious that personal pain is a risk, but I don't see how it's "heroic" to get injured whilst doing your job. Is a skydiver, who knows there is the risk of death, and whose parachute fails and breaks bones/dies, a hero?

In an ideal world, they would get the same payment as footballers. But to say they "deserve" them, just for being a (voluntary rather than conscripted) soldier...I just don't agree.

Nope, gravity makes the world go round. Money spreads evil and corruption.

Footballers deserve soldiers' wages would have been a better group.

But yeah I am getting a bit fed up with people jumping on a swinging about from the Help for Heroes bandwagon.

You could argue that the soldiers know the risks when they go out there and they're just doing their job...

In an ideal world we wouldn't have soldiers. Why should they get paid as much in an ideal world? Anyone can sign up and go kill some poor brown people; soldiers are just doing a job. And footballers not only generate millions they are also highly skilled athletes. Do you realize how difficult it is to even play professionally in one of the lower leagues? Let alone In the top leagues in the world.

That would be conservation of angular momentum

In an ideal world we wouldn't have soldiers. Why should they get paid as much in an ideal world? Anyone can sign up and go kill some poor brown people; soldiers are just doing a job. And footballers not only generate millions they are also highly skilled athletes. Do you realize how difficult it is to even play professionally in one of the lower leagues? Let alone In the top leagues in the world.

What are you talking about?! You say it as if it's easy just to kill someone.

False. If my friend becomes a serial killer and brings in loads of money for his assasin company does he deserve all of that. There is no necessary connection between making money and the making of that money being morally justified.