Irish inferiority complex

I see nothing romantic about pulling down your knickers and peeing in the gutter...or chucking up all over your nice shirt that started out clean before the demon drink got the better of you and led to you being unable to keep the contents on your stomach in your stomach rather than down your fronts...or having your tights laddered by some drunken guy's watch strap as he attempts to lift your dress and unzip his flies at the same time, all in full view of others who are peeing in gutters, vomiting on themselves and shagging complete strangers against shop windows or lamposts.

I think you're referring to duels fought by 'gentlemen' who were cold stone sober otherwise they tended to end up dead. And your referral to grandiose, beer-scented declaration of love is a predictable ploy to get inside that stranger's...ummm...can't think of a word to describe an area (on a public forum at least) that is devoid of knickers.

Give a stranger a dose of the clap...yeah, real romantic.

He doesn't understand that England was completely conquered by the French Normans in 1066 and has been ever since. Since 1066 to the present day, the 21st century, at every new parliament the Queen speaks in French Norman "La Reine le veult" "the Queen wishes it". This was implemented by William the conquerer to rub in the fact the english were conquered, and has remained ever since.
The English as defined in law to this very day are just "subjects" of the King/Queen, who's position was defined by their Norman conquerors.
It then took the Normans and their English slaves another 100 years to try and conqueror parts of Wales and Scotland and for the most part failed miserably despite outnumbering them by huge margins.

Apart from a laughable attempt to attack the English (which is rather a moot point, considering most countries have been invaded at some point in history, the Normans were originally Scandinavians who invaded France) you've done nothing to recover from your flawed claim regarding the Irish: "At lest they aren't a conquered people like the English."

He doesn't understand that England was completely conquered by the French Normans in 1066 and has been ever since.

That wasn't an invasion.... The Norman 'invasion of Ireland', which wasn't an invasion in the true sense of the world

You, madam, are a cynic.

Don't the Irish consider themselves to be Celtic, and considerably moreso than Scotland, Wales and England?!?! So they can use minor differences, perhaps on false premise, to exaggerate between themselves and the rest. I don't know any famous 'Irish' Celts though.

Don't the Irish consider themselves to be Celtic, and considerably moreso than Scotland, Wales and England?!?! So they can use minor differences, perhaps on false premise, to exaggerate between themselves and the rest. I don't know any famous 'Irish' Celts though.

Generally, most Irish see themselves as Gaels, with many also acknowledging their ancestry from within continental Europe, particularly Spain.

Weren't the gaels a celtic tribe anyway? So if they see themselves as Gaelic that means they see themselves as celtic.

I'm not sure that I would agree with your view that the Irish consider themselves to be Celtic.

Sure, some of them do and it is pretty apparent by their colouring that they do indeed have celtic blood in them. Generally, most Irish see themselves as Gaels, with many also acknowledging their ancestry from within continental Europe, particularly Spain. Maybe that's the clue to the preponderance of blue-eyed and black haired Irish...celtic eyes, Spanish colouring.

I don't subscribe to your claim that the Irish try to exaggerate their individualism any more than any other nation. That seems to be a little unfair and bigoted of you in my opinion...or maybe it's just that you don't express it very well and it comes across as having a 'little dig' for your own reasons.

Nah, just having a dig at nationalism as a whole, especially when it's based, in whole or in part, on a false premise. I've seen a few Irish people claim to be more Celtic than the rest of the British Isles whilst not acknowledging that England derives its past from what is now Euskaria, not Anglosaxons. I've always felt Wales, out of all the areas in the British Isles, had the best claim in being most Celtic, mostly because their native language is the strongest going. One thing I can't stand, Irish or otherwise, are nationalists who cannot speak their own native tongue properly.

Their country is falling apart, yet they continue to overcompensate and bang on about how happy they are to be independent from the UK. Ok, we get it, you have your own chunk of land!

I just find that most Irish people continue to have some anachronistic chip on their shoulder with regards to Britain.

I also find it highly ironic that nationalists campaigned, barbarically, for years for a sovereign parliament/judiciary and to be free of the shackles of unions and empires, yet they then proceed to throw away their parliamentary sovereignty and welcome their EU overlords with open arms!

Disclaimer: Not all Irish people have an inferiority complex or are zealous nationalists; however, I believe it is a significant proportion of the population.

Firstly, I do not buy into the whole notion of Irish people claiming to be more Celtic than anyone else; we have a distinct culture and heritage that is instantly recognisable throughout the world and of which we take huge pride (and rightly so). Secondly, I would question as to whether you have actually been to Ireland, and seen the extent in which the Irish Language is spoken (you'd be surprised); I'd be pretty sure there are more Irish speakers than there are Welsh. Thirdly, you cannot have any qualms with us Irish Nationalists who do not speak their native tongue; whether it be badly or not; thanks to the Brits introducing penal laws the Irish Language was virtually wiped out.

you cannot have any qualms with us Irish Nationalists who do not speak their native tongue; whether it be badly or not; thanks to the Brits introducing penal laws the Irish Language was virtually wiped out.

Have you even the slightest idea what Britain did over there?

Thirdly, you cannot have any qualms with us Irish Nationalists who do not speak their native tongue; whether it be badly or not; thanks to the Brits introducing penal laws the Irish Language was virtually wiped out.

I'm not sure "Britain" can do anything. The British government, perhaps - well, they did no worse in Ireland than they did in Great Britain proper.

Which period? English Civil War? Afterwards heading to Ireland and wiping out 1/4 quarter of the population through endless slaughter and burning of crops and kicking people off their land? The famine? shipping all grain and other foods out of Ireland during her greatest crisis to England. Imposing laws on people based on religion restricting them from receiving any kind of decent education, leading to any nationalist leaders being of the protestant religion ( the only educated ones ) . What about shooting people in Ireland before the WOI had even started? trying to quell rebellious thought, shooting on people in gaelic football stadiums, shooting on innocent unarmed protestsors.

They did all that over here as well?