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Paranoid much, UCL-applicants. One terrorist on the news means that UCL breeds terrorists; with such powers of assumption, I'm sure you'll go far in life.

Just because it hasn't been on the news, doesn't mean other uni's don't have extremists.
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Lol this thread is jokes, I'm over the initial shock that the guy didn't go to QMUL, and I'm gonna say: this has nothing to do with UCL.

Lol you guys don't get how London unis work; they're not like your little regional unis where everyone knows each other and it's all friendly and sweet. Lol this is London; lots of people have nothing to do with their unis except to come in for lectures and seminars. He didn't live in uni halls, and probably never did. You don't have to integrate at all in London unis; lots of people just come in and out for classes and make no friends there. I know people who go UCL who don't socialise at all with other UCLers, in the same way I go to QMUL but spend a really limited amount of time there. If I decided to blow up a plane, the thought that it would be anything to do with QMUL is ridiculous. Big unis (especially non campus unis) can not monitor all their students. It's impossible. This isn't some tiny university.

Plus it's London innit; a hotbed of radical islam in the UK. Take Finsbury Park Mosque; not a million miles away, a place which has had the shoe bomber Richard Reid and Zacarias Moussaoui worship there, and given Abu Hamza a platform. There's inevitably going to be Islamic fundamentalists at UCL, as I'm sure you'd find at KCL, QMUL, SOAS, Westminster, Uni of East London, London Met... because of the location.

Recently, QMUL banned Hizb ut-Tahrir speaking at the uni, and UCL also stopped Abu Usamah (radical anti-gay pro Shariah dude) speaking at their uni; this should show you the direction the unis are trying to go in/their ethos. Ffs, UCL still wheels a headless Bentham out to their board meetings; Bentham - someone who supported feminism, animal rights, decriminalisation of homosexuality blah blah blah...they were the first uni to accept any race and women, it's one of the most progressive unis in the country.
Profesh
I think that UCL's admissions-tutors would seriously reconsider the application of any supposedly intelligent candidate who'd "seriously reconsider" their application on such utterly fatuous grounds.


This.

Some people are so godamn stupid.
Hatatitla
I absolutely agree with the notion that while one student might turn out to be a terrorist, nothing will change on UCL's teaching quality. It will be the same school with the same academic performance; it will always be one of the world's best universities. I also want to sincerely apologize for my rash statement that incited the debate. The only reason I would reconsider my app to UCL is safety, but if I look at UCL's quality, I would make that sacrifice.

Anyway,

This is the UCL motto:

"Cuncti adsint meritaeque expectent praemia palmae" which means "Let all come who by merit deserve the most reward"

If anything, this incident proves the true UCL spirit. In other words, everyone has a shot at UCL if they really deserve it, even to-be terrorists.

Then again, as someone one wise man once said "who is to blame?" for some people becoming terrorists? I don't know, but what role does the university play in the development of an individual? Is it too liberal, or too unconcerned with what the attained knowledge is used for? Should this lack of concern be tolerated? Would a concern for the development of an individual then not restrict his ability to freely develop? Should the universities give superior education to someone who can potentially deconstruct our world? Then we may ask ourselves whether or not education should be accessible to everyone and this would bring us to question whether or not it is right to give every individual the right to be an individual.

This is the result of our liberalism and our ultimate freedom. We take this risk on and if we want to preserve the ideals of a free western society, these are the risks that we will have to accept.

Thus what happened is not something specific to the UCL. It is something that could have happened anywhere in our western society where education is accessible to those who really want it and therefore UCL is not to be blamed.


Oh deary me. If you had an iota of intelligence you would've done your research and found out that there is only a SIMILARLY named person who went to UCL between 2005-2008.

Risk? What risk?
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As an imperial terrorist, I can definitely say the quality of work at UCL was shoddy and shortcuts were taken at every corner. Learn how to blow up planes or get the :snow::snow::snow::snow: out, tbh.
reems23
As an imperial terrorist, I can definitely say the quality of work at UCL was shoddy and shortcuts were taken at every corner. Learn how to blow up planes or get the :snow::snow::snow::snow: out, tbh.


Too right, Sir. I'm pretty disappointed at the UCL cell's work and since that's coming from an ex-poly terrorist, they should feel ashamed.
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marshmallows
Oh deary me. If you had an iota of intelligence you would've done your research and found out that there is only a SIMILARLY named person who went to UCL between 2005-2008.

Risk? What risk?


As a matter of fact I have done research and at the point at which I posted the reply there was considerable confusion over the terrorist's background.

From what I have heard it is still inconclusive as to whether he actually was a UCL student.
Reply 68
Disgusting.

Is this the type of people these culturally diverse universities are attracting? So many home grown terrorists. Strange how they're always from London/Leeds/Bradford/Birmingham isn't it? You don't get this in quaint old English villages.
Are you guys seriously being taken in by that an engineering student lit a firecracker, said he was from al-Qaeda, which may I add happened (like I have mentioned before) a few days after the Supreme Court created a new law whereby someone who is a suspected enemy combatant can be declared a "non-person" (wth that is) and therefore has no human rights?

Nick_000
Disgusting.

Is this the type of people these culturally diverse universities are attracting? So many home grown terrorists. Strange how they're always from London/Leeds/Bradford/Birmingham isn't it? You don't get this in quaint old English villages.


http://www.burnleycitizen.co.uk/news/951775.exbnp_man_faces_explosives_charge/

Largest amount of chemical explosives found anywhere in the UK. Never made it to frontpage news.
Reply 70
if it hasn't already been posted:
http://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/news-articles/0912/09122601


Statement: Attempted act of terrorism on Northwest Airlines Flight 253

26 December 2009

"Media outlets are suggesting several different names for the man arrested in connection with an attempted act of terrorism on Northwest Airlines Flight 253 in the early hours of December 26th.

"UCL has no record of an 'Abdul Farouk Abdulmutallab' having been enrolled at the institution.

"UCL can confirm that a student by the name of 'Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab' was enrolled on a Mechanical Engineering course at the institution between September 2005 and June 2008. However, it must be stressed that the university has no evidence that this is the same person currently being referred to in the media.

"Until the situation becomes clearer, UCL will not be making any further comment."
Who would have thought an enigneering education would have resulted in such a poor attempt at a rather simple act of terroism.
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Nick_000
Disgusting.

Is this the type of people these culturally diverse universities are attracting? So many home grown terrorists. Strange how they're always from London/Leeds/Bradford/Birmingham isn't it? You don't get this in quaint old English villages.


Is this post ironic, or are you actually saying 'HURR DURR IT'S THE FORRENERS'?
i am now not applying to ucl. i'm also not applying to any unis in london, or for engineering. i'm staying the hell away from nigerians and i won't be flying to detroit.
Apparently he was the son of a banker...this story gets weirder and weirder by the second. I bet we will find out, it was one big cock up.
Nick_000
Lol I don't think the Govt can afford another dead innocent "terrorist"!


He is probably being tortured as we speak, if he is a terrorist the security teams did a good job. If not he is an unlucky guy.

Edit: Apparently he did go to UCL. I think the security teams did a good job, a catastrophe averted.
Reply 76
MEH, the dude is a bankers son, quite possibly. It's always a toffs fault. They don't get enough attention as it is so they have to try blow up a plane to become the centre of attention.

:snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow: terrorist toffs!:rolleyes:
blue_shift86
MEH, the dude is a bankers son, quite possibly. It's always a toffs fault. They don't get enough attention as it is so they have to try blow up a plane to become the centre of attention.

:snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow: terrorist toffs!:rolleyes:


Its weirder story, a terrorist who lives in a millionaire mansion house in central London son of a rich banker, attempts to blow up and airliner and failed. You couldn't write a better story.
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maze.e
Its weirder story, a terrorist who lives in a millionaire mansion house in central London son of a rich banker, attempts to blow up and airliner and failed. You couldn't write a better story.


and nobody but the Sun would get away with it! :rolleyes: Oh how I do love reading the sun:biggrin:
blue_shift86
and nobody but the Sun would get away with it! :rolleyes: Oh how I do love reading the sun:biggrin:


Ha cant wait to see the daily Mail headlines, I can see it now "NIGERIAN TOFF BANKER MILLIONAIRE TERRORIST ATTEMPT TO BLOW UP WORKING CLASS AIRLINE"

In all seriousness, it does highlight the lack of security screening at airports.

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