Israel and Iran will go to war

Yes but if the Islamic Republic is threatened then you can be pretty sure that people will rally behind it. They may not like their current leader but they are still fanatical about their theocracy and its supreme religious leaders.

But, as this is all academic and hypothetical, what if Iran refused to sign a surrender treaty?

I don't think it's fun either. I never said it was fun. But if my mother was getting dragged by her hair across the street, I would go and defend her. But it doesn't mean that defending her will be fun. There is more to life than fun.



When did I say otherwise? I already know that Israel is way ahead of Iran. I already said that most of Iran's weaponry and arsenal are old communist weapons and machines. I already said that they wouldn't stand much of a chance against modern weaponry.

They wont join because they like Iran but because they hate Isreal.

I don't mean to be racist, but that's the trouble with you Arabs. You surrender too easily.

They say every Turk is born a warrior and I think it's true. If Turkey ever got into a war which threatened the nation I would pack my bags to defend it until my last breath.

i don't think people will allow it. would you be happy when your family is getting bombed up every day and night...because your incompetent government is being too stubborn to surrender? i sense rioting and defection.

Israel would gain advantage very quickly, but win? That's infinitely more difficult, just look at the wars we're currently in and the Vietnam war.

Ok, but like I said why would Israel need to take out every nation in the region with nukes?

Please, don't let any of us stop you right now.

Surely they can hide away and engage in guerilla warfare? Thats what the VietCong did and they were being bombed pretty heavily...

Iran is a supposed Islamic republic, but it is a Shi'ite nation. There are no other Shi'ite nations which spring to mind. Sure they might get a bit of help from a few Shi'ite militants but that's about it.

We're not exactly talking about an Islamic Caliphate here.

Surely they can hide away and engage in guerilla warfare? Thats what the VietCong did and they were being bombed pretty heavily...

They say every Turk is born a warrior and I think it's true. If Turkey ever got into a war which threatened the nation I would pack my bags to defend it until my last breath.

It's a different terrain, completely different. Vietnam is a jungle environment where Guerrilla warfare is much easier. Iran is a semi-desert which suits the heavy machines of the Americans, as we saw in Iraq.

I don't see what this has to do with any Caliphate? I am talking about people defending their beloved homeland which they probably believe has the potential to be transformed into a great Islamic nation.

I think to force them to surrender ground forces would be needed as well. Anyway like I said at the start I believe Israel would win, but it wouldn't occupy Iran or anything (at least not effectively).

Actually as an aside wasn't the Ottoman Court also infamous for it's in-fighting? Maybe it's just what happens when you occupy Constantinople or whatever you want to call it, the infighting comes with the territory so to speak. I'm pretty sure that's what ended the Latin occupation of Constantinople, too much back-stabbing to keep a hold of the place...

Isn't the Iranian terrain similar to Afghan?

Your right. They wouldn't. As I wrote wrote earlier Iran would be diplomatically isolated. Syria would publicly support Iran, Iraq would too likely but only diplomatically not militarily. The rest of the Mid. East. would sit on the fence (viewing Iran as a rival) against their populaces wishes. Hezbollah would would be the only force to conceivably launch an attack (Lebanon is too close for a Nuke strike). This is based on the premise that Israel launches a pre-emitive non-nuclear air strike. Which would in any case only slow Iran's Nuclear ambitions. Not stop it.

However if Israel launches a pre-emptive Nuclear strike that would be utter madness and I don't think anyone could reasonably predict the consequences. I don't think this is very likely imo.

LOLOL jesus, that was quite funny. i hope he isn't too offended by it...

Isn't the Iranian terrain similar to Afghan?

My intention wasn't to offend. I think this guy is trolling. That or he is extremely ignorant of the things that he talks about. Either way, I don't feel the need to respect the opinions of someone who describes any war as 'entertainment.'

maybe oppressing kurds is 'entertaining'?