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90. But you need to be around 110+ to be considered competitive.
I got a score of 91. And speaking to many of the guys on my course at the moment not many got over 100, and we are all still here in phase 2 at 55 (r) Sqn...so I think 110 may be a bit of an overestimation.
Perhaps, but that figure was also given to me by a friend of mine who just happens to have been a boarding officer on their previous tour.
Of course, scoring 91 while excelling in other areas as well gives you the possibility of still being selected. But someone with a more competitive score will stand out in a positive way.
But worrying about scores is irrelevant, as the person who asked the question pointed out, you go into that room looking to get the max, not just the pass mark.
Of course, scoring 91 while excelling in other areas as well gives you the possibility of still being selected. But someone with a more competitive score will stand out in a positive way.
But worrying about scores is irrelevant, as the person who asked the question pointed out, you go into that room looking to get the max, not just the pass mark.
I've had a few people pm me asking for more info or simply questioning my info as it differs from other info they have read (RAF Careers literature).
I think the most up to date RAF Aircraft and Weapons handout still has a page dedicated to the Jaguar!
The information and literature AFCOs have can often be out of date (but the most recent) as it costs money everytime they have to reprint.
Some info may for example state that the WSOp Generic course is 24 weeks, some may state its 19 weeks, when it is actually 10 weeks + 1 week admin streaming and validation. The dramatic reduction in weeks has been in place now since Apr 2009, it was reduced by removing all of the Dominie flying, it is now just academic and synthetic training. The Dominie flying element has been added to the flying element already in place on the specialist Fixed Wing and Sensor course. It was thought that the Rotary guys didn't really benefit from the Dominie flying.
This has had a substantial reduction in costs as currently a good majority of the guys are getting streamed rotary.
I think the most up to date RAF Aircraft and Weapons handout still has a page dedicated to the Jaguar!
The information and literature AFCOs have can often be out of date (but the most recent) as it costs money everytime they have to reprint.
Some info may for example state that the WSOp Generic course is 24 weeks, some may state its 19 weeks, when it is actually 10 weeks + 1 week admin streaming and validation. The dramatic reduction in weeks has been in place now since Apr 2009, it was reduced by removing all of the Dominie flying, it is now just academic and synthetic training. The Dominie flying element has been added to the flying element already in place on the specialist Fixed Wing and Sensor course. It was thought that the Rotary guys didn't really benefit from the Dominie flying.
This has had a substantial reduction in costs as currently a good majority of the guys are getting streamed rotary.
Direct involvement can and does happen but isn't common practice. I do know of 1 who has recently moved to Arizona.
You may find more Kinloss based WSOPs and WSOs getting utilised after the MR2 stops flying, but we are only talking a few.
In answer to your question, yes they are involved but not enough to put it in the glossies, yet.
You may find more Kinloss based WSOPs and WSOs getting utilised after the MR2 stops flying, but we are only talking a few.
In answer to your question, yes they are involved but not enough to put it in the glossies, yet.
Just in response to that, I am on the WSOp Generic course at the moment and it is now a 12 week course. This does not include the 2 weeks after NCAITC where you undergo survival training, and the 1 weeks admin at the end of the course.
This change has literally occurred last week and we are the 1st course to be trialing it. The extra 2 weeks now means that a few days flying will be arranged at Benson or Odiham etc, as well as a community day and a couple of days Adventure Training. All in all, much better!
This change has literally occurred last week and we are the 1st course to be trialing it. The extra 2 weeks now means that a few days flying will be arranged at Benson or Odiham etc, as well as a community day and a couple of days Adventure Training. All in all, much better!
5201
Some info may for example state that the WSOp Generic course is 24 weeks, some may state its 19 weeks, when it is actually 10 weeks + 1 week admin streaming and validation. The dramatic reduction in weeks has been in place now since Apr 2009, it was reduced by removing all of the Dominie flying, it is now just academic and synthetic training.
Some info may for example state that the WSOp Generic course is 24 weeks, some may state its 19 weeks, when it is actually 10 weeks + 1 week admin streaming and validation. The dramatic reduction in weeks has been in place now since Apr 2009, it was reduced by removing all of the Dominie flying, it is now just academic and synthetic training.
Night Flight
Just in response to that, I am on the WSOp Generic course at the moment and it is now a 12 week course. This does not include the 2 weeks after NCAITC where you undergo survival training, and the 1 weeks admin at the end of the course.
This change has literally occurred last week and we are the 1st course to be trialing it. The extra 2 weeks now means that a few days flying will be arranged at Benson or Odiham etc, as well as a community day and a couple of days Adventure Training. All in all, much better!
This change has literally occurred last week and we are the 1st course to be trialing it. The extra 2 weeks now means that a few days flying will be arranged at Benson or Odiham etc, as well as a community day and a couple of days Adventure Training. All in all, much better!
Don't forget the Air Power presentations each syndicate will be giving and the ethos/history visits each syndicate will organise. The Adventure Training is called Force Development. I have to say though that flying is not back on the syllabus, there will be an opportunity for General Service Knowledge (GSK) at whatever station can take you for a couple of days (very similar to carousel on IOT), if that means air experience flights can be blagged then its a bonus.
I hadn't mentioned it before because you guys are indeed the pilot course (oh that could be confusing) these changes wouldn't have filtered down to the AFCOs yet, i'm not even sure if they were up to speed with the last change.
Hey, haven't you got a big exam in the morning? You should be revising not surfing
BustedHi people
Im gutted to read lately about WSOp closing its branch. I submitted my application in December (for WSOp) and have my presentation on 14th May. Does this mean I have a chance or will they simply say the branch is closed after the presentation? I can not get through to my local careers office at the moment.
5201, you had some really good info on your previous post. I see you mentioned about new WSOp usually do not go into SAR. I have been working in mountain rescue for the past year or so and am currently applying for WSOp. If I got through all the initial training is it possible to request SAR branch with my previous experience. I see SAR in the UK will eventually be one unit with the new contract won by Soteria. How will this effect SAR within the RAF?
Thanks
Im gutted to read lately about WSOp closing its branch. I submitted my application in December (for WSOp) and have my presentation on 14th May. Does this mean I have a chance or will they simply say the branch is closed after the presentation? I can not get through to my local careers office at the moment.
5201, you had some really good info on your previous post. I see you mentioned about new WSOp usually do not go into SAR. I have been working in mountain rescue for the past year or so and am currently applying for WSOp. If I got through all the initial training is it possible to request SAR branch with my previous experience. I see SAR in the UK will eventually be one unit with the new contract won by Soteria. How will this effect SAR within the RAF?
Thanks
If you haven't had your P2 presentation yet i'd bet that you are out of luck as it stands right now.
I haven't heard about anyone going direct SAR for a long time, that doesn't mean that you couldn't go for "Selection" during the latter part of your first tour.
I'll speak to a mate in the SAR fleet and get back to you about the future of RAF manning within SAR.
I'm sorry that at this point i've provided you with sod all good news
The good news is that when the branch does reopen, the majority of places will go to Rotary and then Fixed Wing.
All SH have a winching capability, even if you didn't end up SAR you could end up winching someone to safety after all, every cloud etc etc
I haven't heard about anyone going direct SAR for a long time, that doesn't mean that you couldn't go for "Selection" during the latter part of your first tour.
I'll speak to a mate in the SAR fleet and get back to you about the future of RAF manning within SAR.
I'm sorry that at this point i've provided you with sod all good news
The good news is that when the branch does reopen, the majority of places will go to Rotary and then Fixed Wing.
All SH have a winching capability, even if you didn't end up SAR you could end up winching someone to safety after all, every cloud etc etc
Thanks 5201, yep I knew I should of went for my P2 earlier, I had the chance in november but put it back a while so i could research a lot more about the RAF and the position and training...... that one backfired on me
Well all I can do now is cross my fingers and maybe look into other branches. WSO does interest me and I have a degree but im 26 and the website says 25 is the limit for direct entry.
Thanks for looking into SAR for me. I have looked into directly applying to CHC and Soteria but I need a paramedic license to work for them and im not quite to that level yet.
Well all I can do now is cross my fingers and maybe look into other branches. WSO does interest me and I have a degree but im 26 and the website says 25 is the limit for direct entry.
Thanks for looking into SAR for me. I have looked into directly applying to CHC and Soteria but I need a paramedic license to work for them and im not quite to that level yet.
5201
The good news is that when the branch does reopen, the majority of places will go to Rotary and then Fixed Wing.
The good news is that when the branch does reopen, the majority of places will go to Rotary and then Fixed Wing.
That sounds like bad news to me. Sorry, just kidding. Trying to work out if I know or have met you 5201? Are you currently instructing at Cranwell?
As for the query on UAV involvement, WSOps are regularly involved. I know of a few who are out in Nevada now and of some who are planned to go. However, these are all EW/ACO operators and the queue is pretty long (made up mostly of the old and bold). I'm sorry but I can't speak for the loadies.
risk is adventure
I have looked into directly applying to CHC and Soteria but I need a paramedic license to work for them and im not quite to that level yet.
Did you know you can do you're paramedic training privately? It'll cost you a few hundred pounds of your own money mind you, but if you really want it...
Privately? Who with? My girlfriend has just enrolled at a university and that takes 2 years to complete a paramedics course!
I have pre hospital emergency care qualification at the moment along with Advanced first responder training with PEAK emergency response.( along with 1.5 years of on the job experience)
I have pre hospital emergency care qualification at the moment along with Advanced first responder training with PEAK emergency response.( along with 1.5 years of on the job experience)
I Googled "ambulance technician courses" a few weeks ago as I had planned to do it. This is what I found.
http://phecta.co.uk/ambulancetechnician.aspx
Apologies if this is not what your're looking for.
Edit: After some further reading I have realised that this is just the technician side of things. Sorry if I got your hopes up in any way. Check your PM's.
http://phecta.co.uk/ambulancetechnician.aspx
Apologies if this is not what your're looking for.
Edit: After some further reading I have realised that this is just the technician side of things. Sorry if I got your hopes up in any way. Check your PM's.
Hey YTF
Yep thanks for the info. I already have that qualification detailed in the link above. Looks like the branch I want to go for is closed for the near future, so will no have to go to plan B........ RN maybe ......
Yep thanks for the info. I already have that qualification detailed in the link above. Looks like the branch I want to go for is closed for the near future, so will no have to go to plan B........ RN maybe ......
risk is adventure
Hey YTF
Yep thanks for the info. I already have that qualification detailed in the link above. Looks like the branch I want to go for is closed for the near future, so will no have to go to plan B........ RN maybe ......
Yep thanks for the info. I already have that qualification detailed in the link above. Looks like the branch I want to go for is closed for the near future, so will no have to go to plan B........ RN maybe ......
It's always worth having a plan B, but don't completely dismiss Plan A because branch and trade closures usually only occur for 3-6 months. A year long closure would be unusual. In most cases people can find something useful to do in the interim to enhance their selection chances while ringing the AFCO regularly to check on the state of play.
Hi all,
First post, but I've monitored the forum in the past having applied OASC previously. Reapplying for WSOp now, however it seems that the AST is now an included part of the WSOp application, something it hasn't been in my previous applications. Having obviously done the OASC Apptitude tests I'm expecting from the practuce questions for the AST that it will be a little easier than the OASC test, however I don't want to be illprepared for it still. Anyone here been through the AST that have any pointers on it.
And also is the OASC WSOp pass score still 90+ on the apptitude test.
First post, but I've monitored the forum in the past having applied OASC previously. Reapplying for WSOp now, however it seems that the AST is now an included part of the WSOp application, something it hasn't been in my previous applications. Having obviously done the OASC Apptitude tests I'm expecting from the practuce questions for the AST that it will be a little easier than the OASC test, however I don't want to be illprepared for it still. Anyone here been through the AST that have any pointers on it.
And also is the OASC WSOp pass score still 90+ on the apptitude test.
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