Should I get an identity card??

i think its just giving my fingerprints that weirds me out... what if later down the line i decide to turn to a life of crime?? They will catch me straight away! lol

It's not the media, its the government. And you've just proved my point exactly - they are costly, they are risky and they are an invasion of privacy - they also offer no obvious benefits to the individual - yet thousands of people sign up for them. If that isn't moronic, I don't know what is.

Exactly that's the brilliance of it


1. Any criminal with half a brain doesn't get caught out by finger prints...

2. catching the dumb ones is easier less idiots

I dont see the big issue with the privacy thing.. Im only considering it because of convenience as i travel round europe a fair bit and also go out in town a lot (and i am lucky enough to still get asked for ID sometimes!).

No-one listens to the government, everyone listens to the media.
If we were brainwashed by anyone, it would be the media.

And, sorry, but how does quoting the media's stance on this issue prove the point?!

I don't really see what makes it any more convenient than a passport, besides it being marginally smaller. And at least if I lose my passport, I don't have to worry about losing biometric data as well. As for ID, I'd say driving liscense was just as easy and cheaper to replace (and much less hassle) than one of these cards anyway.


People who come here from abroad legitimately have already used passports to get here, so if we can't keep track of passports, what makes you think these cards would be any different? As for people who come here illegitimately presumely they will continue to do so regardless of whether we have ID cards or not.

Right, no-one listens to the government - that would be why every in the streets are running riot in anarchy, rather than obeying the laws of the government... oh wait. No one listens to the government, that'd be why no-one pays their taxes... oh wait, they all do that to. People in this country do exactly what the government tells them to. The media occasionally criticsing the government simply gives the impression of rebellion.

You proved the point by highlighting the fact that people are acting like sheep with regard to ID cards, signing up for them because the governement says they should, rather than for any individual gain (and indeed not only do they not gain anything, they even have to give up their own time and money!).

Right, no-one listens to the government - that would be why every in the streets are running riot in anarchy, rather than obeying the laws of the government... oh wait. No one listens to the government, that'd be why no-one pays their taxes... oh wait, they all do that to. People in this country do exactly what the government tells them to. The media occasionally criticsing the government simply gives the impression of rebellion.

You proved the point by highlighting the fact that people are acting like sheep with regard to ID cards, signing up for them because the governement says they should, rather than for any individual gain (and indeed not only do they not gain anything, they even have to give up their own time and money!).

if you needed one to get on a train

As for ID, I'd say driving liscense was just as easy and cheaper to replace (and much less hassle) than one of these cards anyway

What about people who don't have a driving licence? I don't have one and don't intend to get one until I've finished uni.

If you lose it and someone finds it then they will not be able to get your details. Actually, the main benefit for the ID side is that many shops, bars etc round here have installed fingerprint scanners so it means that you dont have to carry your ID in town, you just scan you finger when you go in and then it confirms you are old enough. If anything, surely that is safer than what they do at them moment - which is scanning your passport/driving license as you go in!!?

You actually want a country where you need ID just to get on a train?

That is not why i am considering it. Also, people only pay their taxes because of the repercussions if you dont. People tend to be more heavily influenced by media than the government and they make decisions based on the PERCEIVED personal gain. After all... how do the government get their messages across to us? How were you made aware of the ID scheme? was it not by the media?

Actually yes. Once i finish my doctorate, i am wanting to move to the USA and you need ID to get on a train there. They dont have a problem with it as it is just normal practice.

Never in my life have I been to a club/bar where they've scanned my driving liscense to get in, I don't know what clubs you go to but round here they have these people called 'bouncers' who simply check you have valid ID. Old fashioned I know

Where do you live? Most places here (London) scan your driving license when you enter, and a lot of students unions I've visited do too, as well as clubs in my tiny home town. It's pretty standard procedure most places I've ever been, I'm surprised you've never come across it.

Never in my life have I been to a club/bar where they've scanned my driving liscense to get in, I don't know what clubs you go to but round here they have these people called 'bouncers' who simply check you have valid ID. Old fashioned I know


I'd much rather live in a country with a few immigrants than one in which I can't get on a bloody train without an ID. What a horrific idea.

I usually go out in Oxford or Reading. Tbh I find the idea a little worrying. How long will it be till we can't get into a supermarket to buy food without holding a valid ID?

Actually yes. Once i finish my doctorate, i am wanting to move to the USA and you need ID to get on a train there. They dont have a problem with it as it is just normal practice.

Once people got used to it then they would not care... you dont moan that you need ID on internal UK flights do you??