[innerhollow]

(Original post by Tombola)
OP:

http://neuroskeptic.blogspot.com/200...a-and-law.html

Oh yeah, I saw the link in one of your previous posts and read it. Was about to reply telling you.

I don't quite know what to make of that case. I mean, I'm glad they took into account the guy's diminished responsibility due to his KB syndrome at least. However, it's really difficult to assess how responsible he was for it. I mean, the fact he knew conceal it and felt shame over it suggests there was intelligent thought behind it, but the general consensus was that he would have never done anythign like that if not for his KB syndrome. Justice is one of the most tricky areas of ethics. I could never be a juror or judge or anything.

[TheLeader]

http://www.stopitnow.org.uk/

[Yuppie20]

if you consider paedophilia wrong you should also consider homosexuality wrong.

[joey11223]

(Original post by PearlyWhites)
Umm sorry, is it "nature" to imagine having sex with children? Is that what you are saying?

..you've said nature, so yes, 100%, for "nature" has created the ability to faults in the brain, going against the accepted sexual feelings a human should have.

Of course what about a 40 yr old man and 16-18 yr old girl?

[TheLeader]

(Original post by Yuppie20)
if you consider paedophilia wrong you should also consider homosexuality wrong.

If this isn't a paedophile i dont know what is but i do know he should be ******* banned. Plus a comment like that surely calls for moderator intervention.
This is my last post on Paedophile threads because i hope if we leave them they will just disapear pretty quickly

[innerhollow]

(Original post by TheLeader)
yh its obviously paedophiles trying to create sympathy for themselves and convince younger people they are not sick bastards but just misunderstood and persecuted people. Kind of scary considering there are some very young people using this site. i just recommend to not meet up with anyone on TSR ever even if you have done in the past

You've posted that twice now. Think what you want about me really, I don't care if some immature **** on an internet forum thinks I'm a paedophile lol, but stop interrupting the discussion with paedophile allegations. It's really annoying reading the interesting stuff other people have posted on the topic and then just seeing whatever tripe you've posted, again.

[joey11223]

(Original post by TheLeader)
If this isn't a paedophile i dont know what is but i do know he should be ******* banned. Plus a comment like that surely calls for moderator intervention.

not really. Free expression?

He has a point which many overlook. Both sexualities (homosexual, paedophilia) are not a choice. Both were hated. I am not saying paedophilia should ever be accepted as children are not fit to consent to sex, but if he's trying to say both are not the "norm" he is correct, and all used to think that way. Luckily we've become more secular and more liberal, though there are limits and I hope children in pornographic media is never acceptable.

[Yuppie20]

(Original post by TheLeader)
If this isn't a paedophile i dont know what is but i do know he should be ******* banned. Plus a comment like that surely calls for moderator intervention.
This is my last post on Paedophile threads because i hope if we leave them they will just disapear pretty quickly

You deserve a warning for such a poorly structured comment. Read my sig, I disapprove of Homosexuals, therefore I can say that Paedophilia is wrong, on moral grounds.

Why is Paedophilia wrong though? Please tell me.

[innerhollow]

(Original post by un-jardin-sur-le-nil)
yeah but having sex with a person from the opposite sex, an adult, doesn't mentally damage them in the same way that having sex with a child would. plus gay people usually consent, you know, and a child couldn't.
don't think there's any space for you to compare homosexuality and pedophilia.

We're not talking about child sex abuse here. The whole point of this thread was to foster the idea there should be some kind of help and support system for non-offending paedophiles, which (and listen, because this next part seems to elude many people) will KEEP CHILDREN SAFER BECAUSE NON-OFFENDING PAEDOPHILES WILL BE UNLIKELY TO BECOME CHILD SEX ABUSERS AS A RESULT. The dumb bints in the world can't seem to handle that. They don't even have any kind of solution, they just want to yell and scream "Omg it's evil!" whenever people mention paedophilia. Guess what folks? You're actually exacerbating the problem of child sex abuse!

Of course child sex abuse is disgusting! Life imprisonment for any who harm children in such an appaling way! Of course! Paedophilia itself is just unfortunate, so we should tackle it in a way that helps paedophiles lead a stable life and thus not turn to child sex abuse as a result. I am amazed every day by the number of people who cannot grasp such a simple concept.

[un-jardin-sur-le-nil]

(Original post by Good Apollo)
It know it was not so long ago that homosexuality was deemed as a mental health problem. You probably would have believed that if it was the common belief of the time, too.

yeah but having sex with a person from the opposite sex, an adult, doesn't mentally damage them in the same way that having sex with a child would. plus gay people usually consent, you know, and a child couldn't.
don't think there's any space for you to compare homosexuality and pedophilia.

[joey11223]

(Original post by PearlyWhites)
Well then to say that that is natural is to justify it. How can u justify the actions of a peado and then blame him because of "nature"? Personally, i think these people are possessed.

A 40y/o with a 16-18y/o isn't ideal, but its hardly peadophilic or illegal.

possessed!? oh dear..religious are we? It's what your kind used to think of homosexuals, and should still if you followed scripture, but as our morality surpasses religions of old, it's hard to follow religions without filtering out the bad. (sorry, hit a nerve.)

Anyway it isn't justifying it, it is simply an explanation. Cancer is nature, It doesn't justify cancer is something good does it? The fact is a paedophile has a chemical imbalance or some unseen problem with the part of the brain controlling sexual desire and which objects should arouse it. It's not letting them off, their not allowed to act on it, but it's still down to their biology. A small minority may choose to psychically abuse children for the pleasure of domination, but I doubt the majority of paedophiles want to only love children, and not sexually mature women/men (don't forget females can be paedo too, what is it 22% by prison statistics?)

[joey11223]

(Original post by un-jardin-sur-le-nil)
yeah but having sex with a person from the opposite sex, an adult, doesn't mentally damage them in the same way that having sex with a child would. plus gay people usually consent, you know, and a child couldn't.
don't think there's any space for you to compare homosexuality and pedophilia.

people don't seem to get it. Their not saying their on equal terms. Their saying they used to be and both are not technically sexual norms. Just one is acceptable now, as we understand it isn't "an abomination"...though I here a popular book talks of us letting their blood upon them, but there we go, we ignore that particular part of the book now, bit too sadistic.

Paedophilia can;t be accepted, but one day I don't doubt we will find the route cause for both sexualities and if wanted, a "fix" can be given.

[joey11223]

(Original post by Yuppie20)
Why is Paedophilia wrong though? Please tell me.

Childrens bodies are not really ready for sexual intercourse AND children cannot give proper consent, they don't understand.

[Marsha2112]

I wouldn't do anything, just like people can't control being straight/gay they can't control this either.

[joey11223]

(Original post by Dorito)
None of my friends are gay so they don't have a diary.

hmm dorito has a point, which leads to another...

How come you always hear about paedos abusing little boys? Are they gay AND a paedo or is it boys or girls it don't matter? I mean may not have gone through puberty but a boy and a girl are rather different.

Is there a dial-a-paedo? Or a paedo wiki?

"yes is this a paedo?"

"sure is, you a little boy/girl?"

"nah sorry mate, but I have a question for dial-a-paedo. What makes you guys decide on the gender of your targets?"

[grape:)]

(Original post by PearlyWhites)
Umm sorry, is it "nature" to imagine having sex with children? Is that what you are saying?

NO....

I was definitely not saying that. I was saying that it IS nature for the OP to hypothesise as he has done

[innerhollow]

(Original post by PearlyWhites)
Ooooo don't get your knickers in a twist sweetheart!!

You really enrage me though . You've been very rude and antagonistic towards me, and for some odd reason you're still here. But I was actually perfectly calm until you brought up the whole "natural" thing. Did you know that sex abuse of young is found in animals? As is prevalent amounts of rape. Nature isn't pretty ffs.

(Original post by un-jardin-sur-le-nil)
yeah but having sex with a person from the opposite sex, an adult, doesn't mentally damage them in the same way that having sex with a child would. plus gay people usually consent, you know, and a child couldn't.
don't think there's any space for you to compare homosexuality and pedophilia.

We're not talking about child sex abuse here. The whole point of this thread was to foster the idea there should be some kind of help and support system for non-offending paedophiles, which (and listen, because this next part seems to elude many people) will KEEP CHILDREN SAFER BECAUSE NON-OFFENDING PAEDOPHILES WILL BE UNLIKELY TO BECOME CHILD SEX ABUSERS AS A RESULT. The dumb bints in the world can't seem to handle that. They don't even have any kind of solution, they just want to yell and scream "Omg it's evil!" whenever people mention paedophilia. Guess what folks? You're actually exacerbating the problem of child sex abuse!

Of course child sex abuse is disgusting! Life imprisonment for any who harm children in such an appaling way! Of course! Paedophilia itself is just unfortunate, so we should tackle it in a way that helps paedophiles lead a stable life and thus not turn to child sex abuse as a result. I am amazed every day by the number of people who cannot grasp such a simple concept.

[joey11223]

(Original post by PearlyWhites)
LMAO!!! How did we get from talking about peadophiles to homosexuals. YOU might put the two in the same category, but I most certainly don't. Take your homophobic views somewhere else, because I don't have to read them!

And why are you telling me that women can be peado's? I really didn't know that. Thank you so so much for enlightening me o wise one.

"but I doubt the majority of paedophiles want to only love children" What does this even mean?! If you're going to insist on writing to me, then please be clear. Tut tut

you didn't read it did you...i even explained in my post their not the same. Re-read it.

Yes woman certainly can, in fact many law enforcement people think the numbers of female paedos are higher then we think, after all a man spending time with a young child looks a bit odd, but no one thinks about a woman being alone with kids. Also women are more calming, better at manipulating the child into thinking touching is ok.

What I meant by "but I doubt the majority of paedos want to only love children". Is I don't think people WANT to be a paedo, it's not a choice. I mean why would someone want to not be attracted to woman, and only be attracted to little kids? No one would want to do that. It's just homosexuality isn't a choice. I'M NOT SAYING THEIR THE SAME, I'm just saying both aren't a choice.

[joey11223]

(Original post by Yuppie20)
the ass*ole was never designed to have inches by inches shoved inside it.

well actually the prostate can only be stimulated properly via the anus..causing the most intense orgasm for a male. Interesting anatomy there.

But I agree it isn't really designed for things to go up, hence lube being needed.

[Toaster Leavings]

(Original post by innerhollow)
You really enrage me though . You've been very rude and antagonistic towards me, and for some odd reason you're still here. But I was actually perfectly calm until you brought up the whole "natural" thing.



We're not talking about child sex abuse here. The whole point of this thread was to foster the idea there should be some kind of help and support system for non-offending paedophiles, which (and listen, because this next part seems to elude many people) will KEEP CHILDREN SAFER BECAUSE NON-OFFENDING PAEDOPHILES WILL BE UNLIKELY TO BECOME CHILD SEX ABUSERS AS A RESULT. The dumb bints in the world can't seem to handle that. They don't even have any kind of solution, they just want to yell and scream "Omg it's evil!" whenever people mention paedophilia. Guess what folks? You're actually exacerbating the problem of child sex abuse!

Of course child sex abuse is disgusting! Life imprisonment for any who harm children in such an appaling way! Of course! Paedophilia itself is just unfortunate, so we should tackle it in a way that helps paedophiles lead a stable life and thus not turn to child sex abuse as a result. I am amazed every day by the number of people who cannot grasp such a simple concept.

You probably didn't mean all women but just pointing out there were equally reactionary menfolk in this thread. Might be being a bit over-zealous here but the steady stream of misogyny on tsr leaves me on high alert.