[Natasha_c]

(Original post by Good Apollo)
It know it was not so long ago that homosexuality was deemed as a mental health problem. You probably would have believed that if it was the common belief of the time, too.

Asuming he doesn't want to have these thoughts - and there is no healthy way he would act them I would think anyone would want to try and adopt a more 'normal' sexuality.

If you were only attracted to children would you think 'o well' or 'I need to sort this out'?

[grape:)]

(Original post by PearlyWhites)
Yes i know. I actually wasn't expecting you to reply.

Awesome, then why the hell did you ask me the question?

[innerhollow]

(Original post by Toaster Leavings)
You probably didn't mean all women but just pointing out there were equally reactionary menfolk in this thread. Might be being a bit over-zealous here but the steady stream of misogyny on tsr leaves me on high alert.

I'm sorry, what? I don't remember making a comment about women. What were you referring to?

EDIT: Oh sorry, was it my use of the word "bint"? I'm aware it's usually used an insult towards woman (actually I didn't know, I realised after looking it up on urbandictionary just a minute ago lol). I was just talking about people in general.

(Original post by Yuppie20)
You are the reason I hate and shall eventually kill a gay couple.
I fail to see why someone calling Paedophilia wrong cannot dub homosexuality the same.

If you do murder a gay couple you'll just end up in prison where you're gonna get raped in the ass everyday by other men. There's something tragically ironic about it.

[Dorito]

(Original post by joey11223)
How come you always hear about paedos abusing little boys? Are they gay AND a paedo or is it boys or girls it don't matter? I mean may not have gone through puberty but a boy and a girl are rather different.

They both look the same from behind.

[Yuppie20]

(Original post by joey11223)
well actually the prostate can only be stimulated properly via the anus..causing the most intense orgasm for a male. Interesting anatomy there.

But I agree it isn't really designed for things to go up, hence lube being needed.

I fail to see why someone calling Paedophilia wrong cannot dub homosexuality the same.

[joey11223]

(Original post by PearlyWhites)
Of course I didn't read any of the waffle you're throwing at me.
And I find it laughable that you're still 'educating' me about female peadophiles! It's so cute that you honestly believe you're enlightening me! How arrogant and deluded are you!

Well we don't know if peadophila is a choice do we? Well I certainly don't. I cant say the same about you though (because I am not you). But to bring in homosexuality when we're talking about peadophiles is a bit iffy IMO. You could have used another example.

are you homosexual? Sorry but your being a bit rude, calling it waffle, called me deluded. You said you didn't realise woman could be, sorry if you were being sarcastic.

If you had read it you'd realise I wasn't saying their the same. I was just using homosexuality as it's well known and back in the day was hated.

Fine zoophilia, zoophilia and paedophilia are the same. But it's not really such a useful comparison as their both hated. I was trying to show all sexuality is a result of the brain, if someone's is "wrong", then it's a biological issue.

Look sorry if a hit a nerve when using homosexuality as an example, I don't want to you to have to insult me.

[DaveParlour]

(Original post by PearlyWhites)
Umm sorry, is it "nature" to imagine having sex with children? Is that what you are saying?

I truly hope you are just a troll, for I have taken a severe disliking to you already.

Please read and understand my previous post...

People in this thread have demonstrated a quite frankly terrible attitude towards paedophilia, and it disgusts me that the media is so much to blame in this. Paedophilia is, what we as a society would call, a mental illness. Most do not have a choice in it, it is the way their brain is naturally wired, a sexual preference like any other that we ALL have. It is just that society has determined that children are not capable of making an informed sexual choice, and so acting on a sexual preference towards children would be taking advantage and this is, quite rightly, unacceptable. However, the media has driven our culture of thought policing these people having completely natural desires and persecuting them as if they had physically attacked children. This situation helps no one. People who have these thoughts can not share them for fear of this labelling, they can not seek professional help, can not seek support from their family, they are left alone to deal with being confused and thinking they are some kind of monster, when they are not. They are just innocent people. They are hurt by something they can not control, and it is my belief that by society suppressing these people into a shell, not allowing them to seek help, will actually mean more children are hurt in the end.

Admittedly a very small minority of paedophiles are so out of choice, drawn by the allure of the 'wrong' in their actions, but we as a society through the media have created this situation for ourselves. People need to learn to understand and accept paedophilia if we are to save more children from harm.

...then tell me how you disagree with this.

[joey11223]

(Original post by Yuppie20)
I fail to see why someone calling Paedophilia wrong cannot dub homosexuality the same.

I'm not gay you know, please spare me!

I don't find it wrong as both parties are adult and are consenting. What two consenting adults do in their own home is up to them, some straight couples are into BDSM, is that wrong?

Paedophilia is wrong as a small child can't realistically consent.

[terpineol]

(Original post by joey11223)
ooo...

the girls actually under 16 or are we talking pretenders? Girls 18-20 who look naturally young, right make-up, right clothes etc.

What's that genetic disease where you look like a child when your really 20. You don't age properly externally...

I wonder if a girl has that, so she looks like a 10-13 yr old at 16-20. I guess it's a paedos dream, legal AND SEXY.

Christ knows, pretenders I would hope.

[grape:)]

(Original post by PearlyWhites)
Because i always reply to people who quote me first. I didn't/don't want to converse with you, but it feels rude to ignore you.

Okay, feel free to ignore me in the future rather than ask me pointless questions like you did.

[Yuppie20]

(Original post by joey11223)
I'm not gay you know, please spare me!

I don't find it wrong as both parties are adult and are consenting. What two consenting adults do in their own home is up to them, some straight couples are into BDSM, is that wrong?

Paedophilia is wrong as a small child can't realistically consent.

Is a man with child porn on his computer evil and wicked and wrong?

[innerhollow]

(Original post by PearlyWhites)
Why let something as meaningless as TSR raise your blood pressure? My opinions are my own, why get enraged by them? I'm laughing behind a screen at you.

Oh thank you for telling me about animal rape! I love the way everybody on here throws out facts as if nobody had ever heard them before!

Because I'm a human, and stuff annoys me I'm not going nuts with rage or anything, hence why I'm still posting perfectly comprehensible posts. I was just cheesed off. And I don't really believe you're actually laughing.

You're just making really dumb comments now. First you say that paedophilia is not part of "nature", which is both wrong and an appeal to nature, and then you say you don't know about animal rape? Right, so if you know about these things, why are you making such stupid comments? People feel the need to educate you on things which you claim to already know about because you come across as completely ignorant of them.

(Original post by DaveParlour)
I truly hope you are just a troll, for I have taken a severe disliking to you already.

Please read and understand my previous post...

People in this thread have demonstrated a quite frankly terrible attitude towards paedophilia, and it disgusts me that the media is so much to blame in this. Paedophilia is, what we as a society would call, a mental illness. Most do not have a choice in it, it is the way their brain is naturally wired, a sexual preference like any other that we ALL have. It is just that society has determined that children are not capable of making an informed sexual choice, and so acting on a sexual preference towards children would be taking advantage and this is, quite rightly, unacceptable. However, the media has driven our culture of thought policing these people having completely natural desires and persecuting them as if they had physically attacked children. This situation helps no one. People who have these thoughts can not share them for fear of this labelling, they can not seek professional help, can not seek support from their family, they are left alone to deal with being confused and thinking they are some kind of monster, when they are not. They are just innocent people. They are hurt by something they can not control, and it is my belief that by society suppressing these people into a shell, not allowing them to seek help, will actually mean more children are hurt in the end.

Admittedly a very small minority of paedophiles are so out of choice, drawn by the allure of the 'wrong' in their actions, but we as a society through the media have created this situation for ourselves. People need to learn to understand and accept paedophilia if we are to save more children from harm.

...then tell me how you disagree with this.

I loved that post the first time I read it, and I love it now. I will rep you in 3 minutes exactly just after midnight. It's a very accurate deduction of the situation, and really conveys what actually needs to be done to combat child sex abuse, rather than our current response we have to paedophilia which is just hysteria and an unparalleled level of social stigma.

[joey11223]

(Original post by PearlyWhites)
I only began being rude with you after you made sarcastic comments about me being "religious". So yes, I am being rude. And I wont be again. My apologies. No I am not gay. 100% heterosexual.

sorry, It's just from what you said I thought it was totally on religious grounds. I know not all religious people hate gays and such, but we both know some of them do, and it really annoys me. Kinda personal to as a friend told me he thinks he's gay(real confused n scared about it.) and his family is quite strict, dads a vicar in fact. If his family weren't so religious it wouldn't be an issue, but you know since his dad has to say what he does in Church, he feels real scared to tell him.

So you do personally think homosexuality is a choice or not? I know you were saying your not sure paedophilia is, I would have thought it's both choice, or neither, kind of thing.

[Illusionary]

I've just had to go through and remove a significant number of posts from this thread. Spam and personal insults are not acceptable on TSR, and if these continue then the thread is likely to be closed and further warnings issued. Please try to keep the discussion civil.

[bex285]

I'd tell them never to read Lolita

[joey11223]

(Original post by Illusionary)
I've just had to go through and remove a significant number of posts from this thread. Spam and personal insults are not acceptable on TSR, and if these continue then the thread is likely to be closed and further warnings issued. Please try to keep the discussion civil.

sorry mate, I know my comment was one, I kind for forget to take it to PM's.

*grovels*

[jj1234567890123]

I would wait till 3 in the morning, sneak into his house, and take a fat turd on his face.

or

tell him to seek professional help.

[innerhollow]

(Original post by joey11223)
sorry mate, I know my comment was one, I kind for forget to take it to PM's.

*grovels*

Good idea

(Original post by bex285)
I'd tell them never to read Lolita

I was thinking of that book while posting on this thread. People say it's disgusting and evil to even talk about paedophilia, so I wonder what they'd think of a whole novel graphically exploring it.

[DaveParlour]

(Original post by PearlyWhites)
No I am not a troll! I am a new member.
I agree with most of what you say, but not when you say that they are not monsters! I mean, yes they are! Deeply disturbed and in need of castration.

For having these completely naturally occurring thoughts that they have no control over? I wouldn't call them monsters for that. In this scenario, as is the case the majority of the time, they are suppressing their urges, often at great confusion to themselves, to fit in with your morals and notions of acceptability. Really you should be thanking them for doing so, helping them to continue, and most certainly not persecuting them.

Yes, those who act on their impulses and physically abuse children must, in terms of our society be reprimanded. But to suggest castration is unfair and I find it immoral that you would impose that on another human being.

[joey11223]

(Original post by PearlyWhites)
Sorry for winding you up btw.
Aww your poor friend. But then, there are loadss of non-religious people who are anti-gay- so theres the chance that they would have been against it anyway.
I don't have any gay friends, but I have a bi-sexual friend and I love her to bits. Obviously its not the choice for me, but maybe it is for others. I mean, I don't choose to like guys, so probably gay men don't choose to like men. I guess I see it a bit like how you do

I haven't met any non-religious who don't like em, but yeah I guess they exist. Harder to have a reason though if you aren't religious as you have to accept evolution, natural selection, genes, etc, if your not religious, there's no other way of looking at things. So it's kind of hard to say homosexuality isn't in nature. Since even some monkeys seem to do guy on guy.