I've only just realised how bad immigration is actually getting...

The 'bit' where they actively recruit Taliban fighters.

I have always been fairly left-wing, supporting immigration, going on about how ethnic minorities should not be discriminated against, immigration wasn't too big of a problem etc. Often I waved off conversations about the extent of immigration, the loss of the nation's identity and grim predictions such as Britain becoming a Muslim country in the next 100 years, and the like, seeing them as over the top comments made out of ignorance.

Over the past few weeks however, I've really started noticing how serious the situation is. My aunt works as a GP in a 'walk in' centre in Buckinghamshire, and she has always voted labour and defended immigration. I was alarmed when she sat at a dinner table over Christmas and for about half an hour spoke about how:

1) Hours and hours of time and money are wasted on the NHS due to first generation immigrants from all places visiting 3 or 4 times per month for absolutely absurd things such as a cough, arguing with health professionals about the best treatment, demanding antibiotics despite being told they won't help. Then coming out with absurd comments about how 'Britain owes it to (insert country) for what you 150 years ago' Furthering the point, apparently figures from last month at this practise (situated in a town in which 80% of the population is supposedly white) 80% of patients were not from this country.

2) On maternity wards you can almost guarentee that the parents will not be white. Apparently 45% of all races having babies are Muslim. It doesn't take a genius to figure out how quickly this will become a problem.

After said conversation, I decided to pay more attention to what is going on around us, and that's when it hit me. Half this damn country isn't white anymore. I was in a train station last night with over 30 people in queues for tickets. I was the only white person. In town earlier this morning, the same story. I literally felt like a minority in what is supposed to be a Christian country.

I doubt anyone watched it, but Muslim driving school illustrated a point to me which really got me thinking. A 'well off' Muslim family who could afford maids, butlers etc in their country, came here with 4 children to get them into British schools in order to give them a good education and go far in life back home. 2 of them were attending very competitive schools in this country, ie, taking away places for some children who would have stayed here after their education. The economic consequences of immigration are going to get very serious if this keeps going.

It's all well and good for us middleclass kids to sit around claiming that there isn't a problem with immigration. But there sure as hell is. I have no problem with immigrants. But I think the gates need closing now and there needs to an appeal to a lot of these people (first generation who have been here for under 5 years) to go home. Things are getting way out of hand.

As far as I am concerned, Britain has no culture that is purely British. Most of the things done now that are deemed to 'British' are inherited from the Normans (French culture etc). Even the patron saint of England isn't British.

The state wastes huge amounts of money on immigrants; houses, schooling, NHS, benefits and the like. We see very little of the benefits of this, as often the people have such low paying jobs, if they have jobs at all, as to not cover their own costs to the taxpayer. Please explain how this is not "wasting money."

Added to that you have the disproportionate number of crimes committed by immigrants (a fact, not a racist slur),

the amount spent on translators and interpreters, etc etc.

The 'bit' where they actively recruit Taliban fighters.

Errr no!

If my parents are Pakistani (spell it properly) then I am British Pakistani

My true heritage is Pakistani, but I also adhere to some things in British culture (being born here).

However, I can never fully assimilate into British culture, or fully accept British culture since I see drinking alcohol as being wrong, meat from pig should not be eaten and the whole idea of girls dressing nearly naked as wrong.

So if I do not accept these things, does that mean I shouldn't be in this country?

Because that's what I see British culture as being. It's either this or you can go way back to Anglo-Saxon culture and live like savages (that's true British culture)

As far as I am concerned, Britain has no culture that is purely British. Most of the things done now that are deemed to 'British' are inherited from the Normans (French culture etc). Even the patron saint of England isn't British.

Oh and have I forgot to mention that Britain took over half of the world and enforced their supposed culture on other countries (especially India).

Typical hypocritical British people I think

Your confusing time periods. Things which the Normas, Saxons, Angles and Vikings introduced mixed to create "British" culture. Also remember we havent been invaded since 1066 and since then have had no major influxes of people from abroad. This gave us about 800 years to "create" British culture. In that time we had the slave trade, colonialism, the industrial revolution, all major world events which Britain played a key role in. We created our own distinct culture separate to anything else on the planet, one which took 800 years to form.

However, since 1980 we have seen the largest migration of people into the UK we have ever seen, and in such a short period they have not accepted British culture, but set up small communities with the culture of where ever they have come from. I drove into Birmingham the other week, and for about 2 miles in stop start traffic the number of white people I saw could be counted on one hand. The shop signs were all in foreign languages, and very few people spoke English. Now im sorry, but thats not the England I know. These people contribute very little to the economy and Im sorry, but I see no reason for them to be here. They certainly wouldnt have made it into Australia, New Zealand, America, etc. People who come here with skills then fine, many doctors, dentists and health workers are foreign, and thats good for the country. Someone who is going to want benefits and going to work in jobs whereby there is intense competition from UK nationals shouldnt be here full stop.

That are people that are fighting for their own country, in their own country, against the foreign invasor.

Your confusing time periods. Things which the Normas, Saxons, Angles and Vikings introduced mixed to create "British" culture. Also remember we havent been invaded since 1066 and since then have had no major influxes of people from abroad. This gave us about 800 years to "create" British culture. In that time we had the slave trade, colonialism, the industrial revolution, all major world events which Britain played a key role in. We created our own distinct culture separate to anything else on the planet, one which took 800 years to form.

However, since 1980 we have seen the largest migration of people into the UK we have ever seen, and in such a short period they have not accepted British culture, but set up small communities with the culture of where ever they have come from. I drove into Birmingham the other week, and for about 2 miles in stop start traffic the number of white people I saw could be counted on one hand. The shop signs were all in foreign languages, and very few people spoke English. Now im sorry, but thats not the England I know. These people contribute very little to the economy and Im sorry, but I see no reason for them to be here. They certainly wouldnt have made it into Australia, New Zealand, America, etc. People who come here with skills then fine, many doctors, dentists and health workers are foreign, and thats good for the country. Someone who is going to want benefits and going to work in jobs whereby there is intense competition from UK nationals shouldnt be here full stop.

Stop reading the daily mail - its not good for u :P: this country is just multi-cultural now, its not a bad thing, i mean yeah you get people who don't wanna wirk and scrounge but you get plenty more 'home grown' scroungers in our green and pleasent land - i think its a good thing - and i'm conservative

btw i haven't actually read the OP these are just my views on immigration in a para

but after reading some other posts i agree with them that non-white doesn't automatically equal immigrant - surely being multi-cultural shd encourage us to expand our horizons not shut them out, imagine if they all were shut out of the country they're so integral now to our economy, imagine if all we had left to support the country was the likes of that Karen Matthews woman *shudders*

I already did, read what I posted after that.
When people will learn that "wasting money" actually means "creating value", the world will be a better place.

But why do you hate translators and interpreters, so much that you want to see them without a job?

Dear god it's first degree murder of the English language, this ladies and gentlemen is the real problem in this country.

your actually an idiot. how the fucc are you gonna know if these people speak english from sitting inside your car. I dont get this whole myth purpotrated by people who live in very white middle class communities which claim that hardly any immigrants know english. Ive lived in Peckham which is a Nigerian hotspot and all the shop owners that sold Nigerian food, clothers etc. all spoke English. I've been to Tooting which is a predominantly Indian neighbourhood and the majority of shop owners/workers there all spoke English as well.

I wasnt in my sodding car. I was on a bike and have ears. And yes, people in Peckham might speak English to you, but amongst themselves they speak foreign tongues, and when there are no English people to talk to they invariable go back to their native languages.