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    I haven't heard much of the UKIP, what are they about? Do they compare to the BNP in any way?
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    BNP is extreme. UKIP tries to lie around policies. Best to stick to the main parties.

    UKIP is full of idiots and liars. BNP is far too extreme to get the popular vote.
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    not at all
    i support ukip. it believes that the uk should remain an independent country and draw out of the eu, keep the pound etc
    the bnp is an ignorant and racist party. people who support it say it isn't, but nick griffin most definitely is a racist so where does that leave the party?
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    UKIP is the small group of right-wing, disenfranchiesd Tories (and Tory supporters) who, I think, formed their party when it became clear we were beginning to lose total law-making authority to the EC.

    BNP is even more to the right (though some say it's extremely left-wing in some of its economic beliefs).
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    UKIP is Patriotic

    BNP is Nationalistic

    Clear and present difference.
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    UKIP - For old Tory supporters

    BNP - For old Labour supporters (with racist undertones)
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    (Original post by adamrules247)
    UKIP - For old Tory supporters

    BNP - For old Labour supporters (with racist undertones)
    you'll probably laught at this, but i did used to support lib dem.
    this gets worse and worse haha
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    Nothing like each other. BNP is opposed to free market capitalism...if you read the manifesto they are basically socialists with a racist bent. They have more in terms of economic paremeters with the Greens or Michael Foot's labour than they do UKIP. UKIP on the other hand hoover up disillusioned Torys, those who hate the EU and those who feel mainstream politics don't go far enough with immigration policy but don't want to vote the BNP.
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    (Original post by Bagration)
    UKIP is Patriotic
    Possibly, although I would say banning the Burqa is affront to British/Anglosphere values, or at least the ones I care about...
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    (Original post by vintagechic89)
    you'll probably laught at this, but i did used to support lib dem.
    this gets worse and worse haha
    Well under Farage the party has taken a more libertarian approach. I think the party is still filled with old Tories though.
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    (Original post by adamrules247)
    Well under Farage the party has taken a more libertarian approach. I think the party is still filled with old Tories though.
    Libertarian :curious:
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    think old school torry.
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    god i would never support tory, even if you threatened to poo in my mouth
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    (Original post by Moe Lester)
    Libertarian :curious:
    Yeah I would say Libertarian. They are attempting liberate women from oppression. (just to use one argument). I have always found the ideology to be a rather confusing one persoanlly. Because it's when things go upon the liberty of others, etc.
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    (Original post by adamrules247)
    Yeah I would say Libertarian. They are attempting liberate women from oppression. (just to use one argument). I have always found the ideology to be a rather confusing one persoanlly. Because it's when things go upon the liberty of others, etc.
    Banning clothes is not libertarian /period/

    As much as I think that the Burqa is one of the stupidest, anti-modern, unfunctional, vile and sexist garments I have seen on British streets I wouldn't ban the damn thing. The state taking away an individuals right to wear what they want is not libertarian...it is statist. Frankly I don't think the government should be in the business of creating legislation (and wasting police time) to liberate women form wearing a curtain on their head. I cannot see how you can reconcile Libertarian thought with banning clothes without pissing over Libertarian principles, especially over slightly dubious claims of "liberating women".
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    (Original post by Moe Lester)
    Libertarian
    That you keep touting one and one only policy example of UKIP being socially authoritarian shows clearly how libertarian a party they are.
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    (Original post by vintagechic89)
    you'll probably laught at this, but i did used to support lib dem.
    this gets worse and worse haha
    What's wrong with being a Liberal Democrat? :/

    You may disagree with their economic policies/political stance, but I think they have a lot more in the way of credibility than New Labour or the Conservatives under the imminent Cameron administration :|


    To answer the OP
    UKIP are about pulling out of the E.U......and that's about it. Literally, watch an interview with Nigel Farage, and he'll ONLY bang on about 'where's our referendum on the Lisbon Treaty!'

    BNP are fairly middle ground economically, but are highly authoritarian and socially extreme right, with anti-islamic, anti-semetic and racist Policy.
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    (Original post by vintagechic89)
    god i would never support tory, even if you threatened to poo in my mouth
    Now that's my idea of a good night in :perv:
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    (Original post by Bagration)
    That you keep touting one and one only policy example of UKIP being socially authoritarian shows clearly how libertarian a party they are.
    Well compared to many British parties they are libertarian, although Labour are so statist they make Stalin look like a libertarian at times.

    A party that considers banning clothes isn't fundamentally libertarian, LPUK wouldn't do that. UKIP does have an admiral libertarian streak although I wouldn't describe UKIPs core beliefs as libertarian, certainally not in a social sense. They may be mild libertarians on some issues, stronger on others and statist on different ones....I don't see UKIPs drug legalisation policies and so forth. On economic paremeters then I guess they are mild libertarians....
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    (Original post by Nostalgia91)
    Now that's my idea of a good night in :perv:
    lol nice bit of scat on a friday night!

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