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Reply 20
hay.hay
I've found that all the placements I thought I'd like, Ive hated and vice versa!
Like I've hated my 2 surgical wards but loved care of the elderly!

My last placement was in a Diabetes Center with the diabetes nurse specialist and it was the most interesting placement I've had! I absolutely loved it and I learnt so much. It's something that I can apply to patients on any ward too! I never thought I'd be so enthusiastic about it but I've just gotten an essay question choice about the management of hypoglycaemia and I'm actually looking forward to doing it. I'm normally doing things the weekend before the due date! So, if you get the chance, ask to work with a diabetes nurse for a day or two! It's great!



Omg, that would be my dream placement!! Because my friend has it - I used to go to quite a lot of hospital apts with her while growin up and it was so interesting hearing them give advice about the best ways to manage it!

I'm the same! I had an essay to do when I was in uni and could pick any topic - picked diabetes straight away!!:biggrin:
Do you normally get given a placement you want - say if I do ask for it?? :biggrin:
Also, What sort of things did you learn on the placement? and was it people of all ages ?
Holamigo

Do you normally get given a placement you want - say if I do ask for it?? :biggrin:
Also, What sort of things did you learn on the placement? and was it people of all ages ?



Unless you have a very nice uni, or you're on managment/elective you don't get to choose. Diabetes nurse specialists can work in the hospital, community- as an adult nurse you'd be working with the elderly. They can be bleeped if someone is going hypo/hyper, admitted with DKA, being discharged with newly diagnosed diabetes, supporting current nurses with education- loads of things

tbh i think its better being a specialist diabetes nurse in the community
Reply 22
Subcutaneous
Like i said i suggested it in AAM MONTHS ago, and got pretty nicely told to go my own way..as no one comes in here

but why is that- cause its unorganised, disorientated and conflicting info! I'm glad studentnurse.org has its own current nursing students section anyway, and clinical issues- sooo much easier, but even on there on the wannabe nurses its people posting their offers left right and centre, and interviews...why they can't have stickys too i don't know!!

There should be an area for links too..things like clinicalskills.net, rcn, nmc, BJN, reflective models, portfolio tools, literature analysis frameworks, theories etc - thinks you use as a student nurse


I know I've stopped really going on the wannabe one now because it's just so annoying - nearly every thread is 'i've got an offer!/interview etc..' even though i'm happy for them, it would be nice if that was one big thread/sticky where people could celebrate! lol

I think if we try and make it more active might make them do something about it! but like they said to me the medcine forum has constant topics every 2 hours and nursing section has threads that are there for 2 or more days! :eek:
And it is because of the way it's organised! Students don't bother posting when it's mainly just about applicants!
Definitely need some sort of change!


Subcutaneous
Unless you have a very nice uni, or you're on managment/elective you don't get to choose. Diabetes nurse specialists can work in the hospital, community- as an adult nurse you'd be working with the elderly. They can be bleeped if someone is going hypo/hyper, admitted with DKA, being discharged with newly diagnosed diabetes, supporting current nurses with education- loads of things

tbh i think its better being a specialist diabetes nurse in the community


Sounds so interesting! hmm don't know if i'd like to just work with elderly all the time -would be nice to see a variety of people and different ages! Do you think in a special clinic it would be all different ages? (18+?)

What sort of things would they do in a hospital then? Because I think the one who I used to see with my friend had like a sort of 'outpatients clinic' in the hospital! I'd quite like that!
Holamigo
I know I've stopped really going on the wannabe one now because it's just so annoying - nearly every thread is 'i've got an offer!/interview etc..' even though i'm happy for them, it would be nice if that was one big thread/sticky where people could celebrate! lol

I think if we try and make it more active might make them do something about it! but like they said to me the medcine forum has constant topics every 2 hours and nursing section has threads that are there for 2 or more days! :eek:
And it is because of the way it's organised! Students don't bother posting when it's mainly just about applicants!
Definitely need some sort of change!



We just get forgotten! TSR is primarily full of people who do rather 'academic' courses and go oxbridge- nursing is just there to fill the quote unfortunately :frown:

Nursing has had a 70% increase in applicants this year, and is still one of the most applied places at uni- yet tsr seems to ignore this and place their priorities on other subjects! :frown:
Reply 24
Holamigo
Omg, that would be my dream placement!! Because my friend has it - I used to go to quite a lot of hospital apts with her while growin up and it was so interesting hearing them give advice about the best ways to manage it!

I'm the same! I had an essay to do when I was in uni and could pick any topic - picked diabetes straight away!!:biggrin:
Do you normally get given a placement you want - say if I do ask for it?? :biggrin:
Also, What sort of things did you learn on the placement? and was it people of all ages ?


No, unfortunately you can't pick your placements generally! Some unis let you swap with people on your course though as far as I'm aware, Mine doesn't though! I just got lucky :P
I do have an elective placement this summer though (i'm in 2nd year) so if you have something similar, then you could try and find a diabetes related placement! Or you can ask on wards to spend a day with certain people! I've spent days with physios and dieticians so I don't see why you couldn't ask to spend the day with a diabetes nurse :smile:

I learnt loads! I learnt about all of the different insulins, the tablets for diabetes, about the other meds that a lot of dibetic patients are on and why, diabetes control (things like improving control clinics, starting people on pumps etc) about the problems associated with diabetes and why they happen (they had nephropathy and neuropathy clinics). They had people on injections for weight loss, just everything really! I spent half my week in the clinic, then half the week visiting patients on the wards. You realise just how badly diabetes is managed on the wards.
So I saw everyone from the ages of 16! Oh and I went a clinic which was run by midwives too for pregnant women who develop diabetes!

To be honest, in first year I had a case study for physiology on diabetes and I got 78% for it and I now know I had half of it wrong!

Sorry I've written you an essay but I just loved it so much there!
Reply 25
Subcutaneous
Unless you have a very nice uni, or you're on managment/elective you don't get to choose. Diabetes nurse specialists can work in the hospital, community- as an adult nurse you'd be working with the elderly. They can be bleeped if someone is going hypo/hyper, admitted with DKA, being discharged with newly diagnosed diabetes, supporting current nurses with education- loads of things

tbh i think its better being a specialist diabetes nurse in the community


Being an adult nurse doesn't mean she will be working just with elderly patients.
hay.hay
Being an adult nurse doesn't mean she will be working just with elderly patients.



oops, sorry i was going to expand that from the elderly, to teenagers with MODY..
Reply 27
Subcutaneous
oops, sorry i was going to expand that from the elderly, to teenagers with MODY..


lol to anyone who's diabetic and over 18 you mean :P
hay.hay
lol to anyone who's diabetic and over 18 you mean :P




yeah, was going to give an example of vast majority of patients

ive had patients with MODY, who've been 15/16 but in adult services tho, so not necessarily 18
Reply 29
Subcutaneous
yeah, was going to give an example of vast majority of patients

ive had patients with MODY, who've been 15/16 but in adult services tho, so not necessarily 18


I wasn't sure if it was 16 or 18. You just made it sound like she would only be seeing elderly patients or patients with MODY! Not just generally any patient with diabetes who is no longer classed as children! Just clarifying!
hay.hay
I wasn't sure if it was 16 or 18. You just made it sound like she would only be seeing elderly patients or patients with MODY! Not just generally any patient with diabetes who is no longer classed as children! Just clarifying!



lol im half awake and have had a whole week of diabetes related lectures

bed now!
Reply 31
Subcutaneous
lol im half awake and have had a whole week of diabetes related lectures

bed now!


G'Night!
Reply 32
hay.hay
No, unfortunately you can't pick your placements generally! Some unis let you swap with people on your course though as far as I'm aware, Mine doesn't though! I just got lucky :P
I do have an elective placement this summer though (i'm in 2nd year) so if you have something similar, then you could try and find a diabetes related placement! Or you can ask on wards to spend a day with certain people! I've spent days with physios and dieticians so I don't see why you couldn't ask to spend the day with a diabetes nurse :smile:

I learnt loads! I learnt about all of the different insulins, the tablets for diabetes, about the other meds that a lot of dibetic patients are on and why, diabetes control (things like improving control clinics, starting people on pumps etc) about the problems associated with diabetes and why they happen (they had nephropathy and neuropathy clinics). They had people on injections for weight loss, just everything really! I spent half my week in the clinic, then half the week visiting patients on the wards. You realise just how badly diabetes is managed on the wards.
So I saw everyone from the ages of 16! Oh and I went a clinic which was run by midwives too for pregnant women who develop diabetes!

To be honest, in first year I had a case study for physiology on diabetes and I got 78% for it and I now know I had half of it wrong!

Sorry I've written you an essay but I just loved it so much there!



wow sounds really gooood! ahh can't wait to start and go on placements!

Bet it was interesting working with pregnant women who develop it!! - do they have to be closely monitored throughtout their pregnancy? one of my friends mum developed type 1 while she was pregnant with her! It's weird how they can just develop it because I thought type 1 people are usually either born with it or get it at a fairly young age. Do most preg women get type 1 or 2?

Like you said I could always just ask to spend the day with the diabetes nurse if I don't get a placement! woo:woo:

When you said about on the wards - what sort of reasons are the diabetics normally omitted into hospital for?
My friend had to go to hospital because she accidently gave herself an overdose of insulin! :/ wasn't nice! She also became very anorexic - and was very dangerous because she stopped doing her insulin injections all together!

I love reading about anything diabetes-related! lol any other info? :P
Reply 33
Holamigo
wow sounds really gooood! ahh can't wait to start and go on placements!

Bet it was interesting working with pregnant women who develop it!! - do they have to be closely monitored throughtout their pregnancy? one of my friends mum developed type 1 while she was pregnant with her! It's weird how they can just develop it because I thought type 1 people are usually either born with it or get it at a fairly young age. Do most preg women get type 1 or 2?

Like you said I could always just ask to spend the day with the diabetes nurse if I don't get a placement! woo:woo:

When you said about on the wards - what sort of reasons are the diabetics normally omitted into hospital for?
My friend had to go to hospital because she accidently gave herself an overdose of insulin! :/ wasn't nice! She also became very anorexic - and was very dangerous because she stopped doing her insulin injections all together!

I love reading about anything diabetes-related! lol anything other info? :P


It's called gestational diabetes and it's a separate type! They have to be monitored closely because they have to keep the blood sugars at a certain level (a little bit lower than the normal range that would be acceptable for anyone else with diabetes) or they can develop problems and the baby can be enlarged. I thought it was weird that they'd just go back to normal blood sugars after the birth!

When we went to visit people on the wards, they weren't necessarily in hospital for anything diabetes related. The diabetes nurse would be called to see a general patient, for example an elderly patient, or someone who has a broken hip even, if their control wasn't very good and the insulin or tablet dose may need to be altered. When someone is ill, the blood sugar can increase even if they aren't eating so the diabetes nurse can increase the insulin, then review it later and maybe reduce it back down. Also, people who where newly diagnosed would be given education on the ward about the condition and how to recognise and deal with a hypos and use a BM machine and stuff like that. They'd try and refer them back to clinic after discharge.

I actually never saw anyone on the ward who had been admitted with DKA or anything like that. They where all patients in for other things! So like if I was looking after a patient on a heart surgery ward and they had really bad control and their BM's where all over the place, you can get in touch with the diabetes nurses :smile:
once when i was in A&E (coz i was ill) i asked the nurse if they had different nurses for the kids and the nurse said 'no all nurses in A&E work on a rotaion, sometimes we work with kids and sometimes with adults'.
would you have to be a adult or child nurse for this or could you just be either?

i would love to work in A&E lots of different things coming through the door from a broken finger to a DOA.
Maybe Neuro, as I loved my placement there. Maybe a resource centre, as I loved all the activities, maybe be a CPN, maybe a PTSD nurse...the list goes on ...
Reply 36
I plan on specialising in eating disorders. My absolute goal and dream would be to set up a new centre for eating disorders.
Reply 37
elzxx
I plan on specialising in eating disorders. My absolute goal and dream would be to set up a new centre for eating disorders.



I've always had an interest in doing that too - the reason why I first wanted to be a dietitian and then went to study Nutrition(but later dropped out!)
I didn't realise you could do this if you were a nurse though? I suppose you could specialize in Nutrition/eating disorders.
Ive just finished my first branch placement which was quite good/interesting etc on a diabetes/general medicine ward and it really improved my confidence. So anything like that would be good to start of with.
Just started a mental health non-branch where all the residents have schizophrenia and its soo different!! Tbh, I think I prefer adult nursing as supposed to mental health but of course people have different preferences.
Holamigo
Omg, that would be my dream placement!! Because my friend has it - I used to go to quite a lot of hospital apts with her while growin up and it was so interesting hearing them give advice about the best ways to manage it!

I'm the same! I had an essay to do when I was in uni and could pick any topic - picked diabetes straight away!!:biggrin:
Do you normally get given a placement you want - say if I do ask for it?? :biggrin:
Also, What sort of things did you learn on the placement? and was it people of all ages ?

Also, on my diabetes placement we got people who got referred with diabetic foot ulcers from the foot clinic. Some of them were rather serious with one patient who had their tendons on show and another who had to have larvae therapy. It was a really interesting placement.
Even if you don't get a placement on a diabetes ward, I would try get some experience on there some how just because diabetes is so prominent.

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