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Re: The Road to 3/4/5I did say it'd be hyperbolic with the 'warning: ad copy incoming' sentiment when I pasted the link. I think it's probably fair to say most people would go for the burn but I really, really am not that kind of person at all. I haven't done high reps for a long time and it is probably to my detriment because of that.
Personally I feel the very low reps of this are actually rather beneficial for technique as they help solidify it, ''practice'' as Pavel might call it. The drop at the bottom of the squat I simply assumed to be the 'pop' out of a deep, narrow-medium stance squat. That style is fairly natural to me so personally I don't see the issue with it, but your experience may vary (especially since you have back injury.)
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Re: The Road to 3/4/5Clean Grip Snatch
20x3 30x3 40x3 45x3 50x3 55x2
Cleans
55x2 60x2 65x2 70x2
Sumo DL
70x2 90x2 110x2 120x2 130x2 145x5+1 110x8
Pullups
BWx12
Chins
BW+5x6 BW+10x5
Neutral Grip Chins
BW+15x3
Seated Rows (wide d-handle grip)
Ascending weights 12, 10, 8, 6
Preacher Curls
less weight but just going for the pump here.
Cable crunches/hanging leg raises (bunch of sets)Last edited by The Blind Monk; 27-02-2010 at 00:17. -
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Re: The Road to 3/4/5I'm slightly stronger sumo-style for reps so I'm training it this phase. I alternate between each depending on when I hit my weight target (in this case it'll be 155x8 and 170x1.) It's quite different in terms of sticking point: the main issue is getting it off the first 2 inches. After that, I'll lock it out even if my form is miserable and I've stiff legged it or whatever. The other thing is I can't squat more than once a week before the joys of my collagen deficient knees decides to scream even while wearing knee wraps. So I can get in some kind of volume for legs that's not a leg curl or whatever.
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Re: The Road to 3/4/5Fish oil yes, glucosamine didn't seem to do much for me but I may try again. Nothing hyper aggressive on the fish oil dosing front though, unlike some of the stuff I've read online.
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Re: The Road to 3/4/5Sumo Deadlift
60x5,5 80x5 100x3 120x3 147.5x5
Wide grip pullups
bwx15 bw+5x7 bw+10x3 Bw+15x3,1,1,1
Seated Rows
worked up to top set of 8
Smith Bench
20x5 40x5 60x2 70x2 80x2 90x2 100x2 110x1
Incline Smith
70x12
Hanging Leg Raises
8,7
Cable curls
15x4 10x10
Leg Press
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Re: The Road to 3/4/5Sumo Deadlift
60x5,5 80x5 100x3 120x3 147.5x5
Wide grip pullups
bwx15 bw+5x7 bw+10x3 Bw+15x3,1,1,1
Seated Rows
worked up to top set of 8
Smith Bench
20x5 40x5 60x2 70x2 80x2 90x2 100x2 110x1
Incline Smith
70x12
Hanging Leg Raises
8,7
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Re: The Road to 3/4/5Lost a smidgen of weight (mainly fat) around 65kg now
Incline Dumbell
16x5 20x5 24x5 28x5 30x5 34x8 36x2
Kroc Row
16x5 20x5 24x5 28x5 30x5 35x5 36x5
Smith Incline
20x5 40x5 50x5 60x5 75x5 80x3 90x2
Lat Pulldowns
Dips
15x5 30x8+1
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Re: The Road to 3/4/5Sumo Deads
60x5 80x3 100x3 110x1 120x1 130x1 140x1 150x5 110x5,5,5
Deadlifts
110x5,5
Pullups
12,8,6,5
Nice session to get in some deadlifting volume. Was really nice to be lifting with someone a lot bigger than I am, who got up to 190x4, which is probably the most I've seen someone do at the Bloomsbury. Which says a lot about how terrible a gym it really is... -
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Re: The Road to 3/4/5Morning session.
Bench
20x10 30x5 40x2 50x2 60x2 70x7 75x5 80x1 85x1
Pullups
can't remember
Incline Dumbell
24x5 32x5
Pullups
can't remember
Cable curls
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Re: The Road to 3/4/5Been a bit ill: linear progression is starting to hurt...a lot.
Snatches 20x5 30x2 35x2 40x2 45x2
Cleans 50x2 55x2 60x2 (slow)
Sumo DL 60x4 80x3 100x2 120x2 130x1 140x1 152.5x4 (the last rep was one hell of a grind)
Chins BWx12 BW+10x3 BW+15x3 BW+20x2 BW+25x2
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Re: The Road to 3/4/5Morning session
Bench
20x5 30x5 40x2 50x2 60x2 70x9 75x7 80x1 90x0 (spotter did give some assistance) Would have nailed if I were fresh
Military Press
20x5 30x3 40x3 50x6 (loving this with a false grip: feels so much better)
Seated Row
ramp up to ?x7
Cable curls
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Re: The Road to 3/4/5Dumbell Inclines
12x5 16x5 20x5 26x5 32x10 36x5
Incline Bench Face Down Rows
12x8 16x5 20x5 26x5
Mil Press
20x3 30x3 40x3 45x3 50x6
Squats
40x3 50x2 60x1 70x1 80x1 90x1 100x3 110x1
Half Squats off pins
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Re: The Road to 3/4/5Bad sleep/not enough food/woke up really early etcetc not the greatest of workouts
Snatches
20x5 30x3 35x2 40x2 45x2 50x2
Cleans
55x2 60x1 65x1 70x1
Sumo Deadlifts
70x3 90x3 110x3 120x1 130x1 140x1 155x1 (this is bad, I got 4 reps on 2.5kg less) Form was better though.
Chins
BWx17 BW+5x3 BW+10x3 BW+15x2
Cable 1 arm rows
30kgx8
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Re: The Road to 3/4/5Was in NY for a week so no gym. Back home now.
Clean and Press
27.5x5 32.5x5 37.5x5 42.5x5 47.5x5 52.5x2 57.5x2
Row
57.5x5 62.5x3 67.5x3 72.5x3
Dumbell Hammer Curls
10x6 15x6 20x6
Barbell Curls
40x3
Upright Rows
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Re: The Road to 3/4/5Clean and Press
27.5x5 32.5x5 37.5x5 42.5x5 50x4
Pendlay Row (not used to this at all)
27.5z5 32.5x5 37.5x5 42.5x3 50x3 55x3
Mechnical drop set for t3h gunz
20kgx4,4,4
I've been playing around with levers as well to get some extra back TUT in. Good fun/feel more stable elsewhere. Lots of what Dan John might describe as the 'body as one piece' -
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Re: The Road to 3/4/5Clean and Press (only one clean for the last set now)
27.5x5 32.5x5 37.5x5 42.5x5 50x6
Rows
27.5x3 32.5x3 37.5x3 42.5x4 50x3
I can't keep form on pendlays and my main back work atm is front levers so it is still somewhat balanced...
Bicep superset: 20kgx5 reps
The guns are severely lacking, even compared to my nonexistent other musculature. Also it doesn't affect my levers too much after the pump goes down so whatever really. -
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Re: The Road to 3/4/5Not perhaps the healthiest workout in the universe but
Clean and Press
27.5x3 35x2 40x2 45x2
Clean and Multiple Presses (no reclean)
50x2 55x6 60x1 (PB)
Working on handstands/levers. I'm liking this as a change of pace.
Yes, I have no squats in my routine and won't for the upcoming few weeks.