The (Sidetracked) Road to 3/4/5

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  1. The Blind Monk's Avatar
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    Re: The Road to 3/4/5
    Basically assistance work to make certain muscle groups stronger. e.g. quads and upper back (FS) RDL (Hamstring) etc
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    Re: The Road to 3/4/5
    Where do Cable, Hammer and Nautilus curls fall into this :P
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    Re: The Road to 3/4/5
    Biceps play a role in shoulder extension and also stronger biceps=less chance of a bicep tear in a mixed grip deadlift
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    Re: The Road to 3/4/5
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    Biceps play a role in shoulder extension and also stronger biceps=less chance of a bicep tear in a mixed grip deadlift
    Yeeep, that's what I tell myself too.

    But in all honesty, everything plays its part. Why would you want anything to be weak?
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    Calves... I'm undecided. Opinions?

    (Original post by Michael XYZ)
    Yeeep, that's what I tell myself too.

    But in all honesty, everything plays its part. Why would you want anything to be weak?
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    Calves... I'm undecided. Opinions?
    I started doing some seated calf raises a little after Louie Simmons said somewhere they help with knee pain or strengthen your knees or something to that effect. Worth a go if there's even some truth to it.
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    I never found calf raises to make the slightest bit of difference tbh. But I don't think I've ever given them the effort they need considering my FML calf genetics. Stretching them helped with knee pain though.
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    (Original post by The Blind Monk)
    Biceps play a role in shoulder extension and also stronger biceps=less chance of a bicep tear in a mixed grip deadlift
    I second that
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    (Original post by The Blind Monk)
    I never found calf raises to make the slightest bit of difference tbh. But I don't think I've ever given them the effort they need considering my FML calf genetics. Stretching them helped with knee pain though.
    I like a better variation of calf raises.. try them with dumbbells although balancing them can get tricky at times
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    Re: The Road to 3/4/5
    Lazy day: grip/shoulder not feeling at 100% so left some in the tank.
    Bench
    20x? 40x5 50x2 60x5 67.5x5 75x8F
    I find it hard to stay tight for benching 5+ reps. Was a bit stupid with the last rep and shouldn't have missed it.
    Incline DB
    14x10 22x10 32x15
    Done BB style. Most of the way to lockout and pretty constant tension. Quite controlled. Still need to get used to it.
    DB Row
    16x10 32x7
    Grip was **** today/dumbells are fat. Good control, **** grip and didn't want to use straps because I have a cut on my wrist (from straps.) Forgot to bring a plaster. Fail.
    Seated Row
    5x10 7x10 9x12
    Rear Delts on a cybex cable column.
    ?x?
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    Re: The Road to 3/4/5
    Lazy day today. Been ill so definitely not pushing the volume hard.
    Press
    20x? 30x? 37.5x3 42.5x3 47.5x7
    Deadlift
    40x? 60x3 80x3 100x3 120x3 140x6
    Pendlay Row
    60x8 65x8
    Lateral Raises
    6x15 8x12,10 6x12
    Reverse Pec Deck
    28x15 32x12,9
    Hammer Curls
    8x12 16x7
    EZ bar curls
    12.5+bar for 21s (1 set)
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    Re: The Road to 3/4/5
    Back definitely not fully recovered.

    SQ
    50x8,4 70x3 85x3 100x3 107.5x6
    Would have hit 7-8 but I hit the spotter pins on the way down. Threw my groove off completely.
    FS
    50x3 60x3 72.5x9 80x7
    80x7 was horrible. FS feels like I'm strangling myself so that really restricts how many reps I can do. Need to build up the specialised conditioning.
    Leg Press
    work up to 130x15 in sets of 10.
    This wasn't heavy per se. But higher reps still take it out of me/I haven't leg pressed on this machine in a long, long time. Will probably keep it in and do RDLs on deadlift day.
    Reverse Pec Dec
    28x15 35x12 42x10

    2nd week in a row I've been to the gym on a Sunday morning after going out to an overpriced club. Need to stop making a pattern of this.
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    Bench felt weird today so left it at the prescribed no. of reps. Area between my shoulder blades feels knotty/horrible.
    Bench
    20x5 40x5 60x3 72.5x3 80x3
    BB Row
    50x8 70x8,8,6
    HS Incline (per side)
    20x5 30x10 40x10 50x1 (will go 35,45 next time)
    Rear Delts/Face Pulls
    ?x3 sets of 10 each
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    Need to eat more carbs. Especially in the mornings. Weaksauce lifts/back was quite painful before training. Need to get my posture better when sitting in the library.
    DL
    70x5.3 90x3 110x3 125x3 140x6
    (messed up the % a bit but I'll survive)
    Chins
    5,5,5
    Slow, controlled and felt it in the lats. Did some hanging/back felt better.
    Pulldowns
    4-5 sets of 10
    Done in a coantrolled way to feel the mid back.
    Hammer Curls
    6x10 10x10 12x10 14x7
    45 degree back raises
    3x20 BW
    Lots of stretching/mobility at the start and end. Felt a lot better.
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    Re: The Road to 3/4/5
    same i need more carbs in general, i usually over do it with the proteins and fats + i can't even think of eating atm got hit by food poisoning just about when my lifts wer getting better ;(

    edit: for carbs just shove like 100g of oats in a shake.
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    My problem is not overdoing at all with the proteins or fats lol. It's eating. Full stop. I had quite minor food poisoning last week (just vomiting, which by the standards of me and food poisoning is positively pleasant...)

    Oats in a shake? My usual solution to needing more carbs is just chocolate digestive biscuits...Advanced workout nutrition? :P
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    Re: The Road to 3/4/5
    (Original post by The Blind Monk)
    My problem is not overdoing at all with the proteins or fats lol. It's eating. Full stop. I had quite minor food poisoning last week (just vomiting, which by the standards of me and food poisoning is positively pleasant...)

    Oats in a shake? My usual solution to needing more carbs is just chocolate digestive biscuits...Advanced workout nutrition? :P
    i vommed but it was lots and real bad, I've not eaten much as i feel pretty sick and DOMS is really bad due to the lack of food lol.
    when you got struck by food poisoning did you carry on progression as usual? i'm thinking to repeat my previus week


    pint of milk, scoop of whey, 2 scoop oats, 1 spoon olive oil blend = 800ish cals ;P


    and fuarkkk back before when i startedtraining i used to live off biscuits, went thru like a packet a day
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    Re: The Road to 3/4/5
    I got bad food poisoning this summer. I slept for 16 hours a day for 4 days straight and the only thing I kept down was half a bowl of rice porridge and electrolyte fluid. I lost about 5 kg in 6 days or so? Fever, vomiting and variously ****ed. That was not cool.

    This was just chucking up two mornings in a row. Don't worry, I am quite well versed in the benefits of oats, milk and whey.
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    I hallucinated a little bit last time I had bad food poisoning. + all the usual ****ups
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    I think I am very lucky to have an iron stomach.

    So many things that I've cooked with questionable edibility haven't had food poisining once. Yet some of my flatemates have, whilst eating considerably less.
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