How is patriotism different to racism?

I'm not sure it was really clear what I meant. I was trying to say that they're different in that racism is saying someone is better because they are white, whereas, for instance, Britain could technically be seen as a better place to live than many countries - people on average have larger disposable incomes, better healthcare, etc. Patriotism becomes racism when it says that British people are better than people from, say, Afghanistan, but I don't think there's anything wrong with believing that Britain, as a country, is a better place to live.

Patriotism is just celebrating your nationality. Even skin colour can be celebrated, eg. during events like Black History Month. And with these anyone can join in or be happy for them. There's no harm in someone eg. a black person celebrating their culture, as long as they have some respect for other people's

Patriotism is a form of nationalism. Nationalism, the adherence to and support of a particular nation, is intrinsically linked to the concept of nationhood; and a nation is simply a psychological concept, a grouping of people with similar cultural viewpoints within a geographic region. Nations are not necessarily linked to race (see the US).

Racism, on the other hand, is the systemic denigration of individuals or groups of individuals because of their racial background. No mention of nationality involved.

This is not to say that racism and patriotism are not frequently found in combination, of course.

I could say exactly the same about societies dominated by white people. White nations tend to have a higher standard of living, more political and personal freedoms, etc.

Believing Britain is a nice place to live does not = patriotism. Dictionary definition - "devoted love, support, and defense of one's country; national loyalty." Liking the NHS and the British economy etc. is not the same as love for the abstract notion of a country. I'm sure living in the south of France would be awesome. That doesn't make me a French patriot does it.

Simple question. How is patriotism any different to racism?

Why is it completely fine to say "The United Kingdom is the best country in the world!", "Britain is awesome!" but obviously not ok to say "The White race is the best race in the world!" and "Whites are awesome!" What is the difference?

Why is it ok to make fun of, say French people, but definitely not ok to make fun of, say, Asian people?

I really don't see any logical difference between someone coming out with these sort of patriotic statements, and someone coming out with a White Power statement.

Is there any real difference? Discuss.

I come from the white race. Is it ok for me to publicly be proud of this. Would something along these lines be socially acceptable for me to display?



I'd guess not acceptable. However, if I change the word "white" to "British", somehow it magically becomes perfectly acceptable.

Personally I think that Patriotism is Xenophobia.
Racism is generally excepting as being stupid, it amazes me that people don't share the opinion on Xenophobia.

"Patriotism is the belief that you are superior to someone, simply because of where you were born"

In a different dimension, no it wouldn't be offensive and it shouldn't be really, but given the violent, oppressive history surrounding race - particularly whites against blacks )and other minorities) having such a display is entrenched in fear, as often the people who shout white pride the loudest are those who STILL have no problem being racist, treating others dfferently, thinkin they are superior and being violent towards another because of their colour.

i mean the KKK still exists. The national front is alive, just take a look at a v.active racist website to see racism and the views based behind the orignal connotations of 'white pride' are still alive.

If there wasnt all this history behind it, fewer would take offence. I really dont get why people alsways ask this. is it because your white and on the other side so to speak, and just want to play devils advocate? surely u knw the history? and why it riles people up. yea it may not be fair that u cant shout 'white pride' down your street without being given a funny look, but it aint fair that people are still treated bad because of thier skin. so hey get over it.

In a different dimension, no it wouldn't be offensive and it shouldn't be really, but given the violent, oppressive history surrounding race - particularly whites against blacks )and other minorities) having such a display is entrenched in fear, as often the people who shout white pride the loudest are those who STILL have no problem being racist, treating others dfferently, thinkin they are superior and being violent towards another because of their colour.

i mean the KKK still exists. The national front is alive, just take a look at a v.active racist website to see racism and the views based behind the orignal connotations of 'white pride' are still alive.

If there wasnt all this history behind it, fewer would take offence. I really dont get why people alsways ask this. is it because your white and on the other side so to speak, and just want to play devils advocate? surely u knw the history? and why it riles people up. yea it may not be fair that u cant shout 'white pride' down your street without being given a funny look, but it aint fair that people are still treated bad because of thier skin. so hey get over it.

Simple question. How is patriotism any different to racism?

Why is it completely fine to say "The United Kingdom is the best country in the world!", "Britain is awesome!" but obviously not ok to say "The White race is the best race in the world!" and "Whites are awesome!" What is the difference?

Why is it ok to make fun of, say French people, but definitely not ok to make fun of, say, Asian people?

I really don't see any logical difference between someone coming out with these sort of patriotic statements, and someone coming out with a White Power statement.

Is there any real difference? Discuss.

Its really none of your business what anyone thinks. What are you, thought police?

It's really none of your business what anyone else posts on the internet. What are you, internet police?

Britain isn't a race, being White is.


I'm proud of being British but I'm pretty indifferent about being White.

Simple question. How is patriotism any different to racism?