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  1. theonefrombrum's Avatar
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    Re: The Learner Driver Progression Thread - MK II
    (Original post by MelissaJayne)
    Think it was this website..

    http://www.driving-test-success.com/haz001/haz001.htm


    You're a hero!
    oh and, I have 2 hour lessons and I've had 5 so far and only ever stalled three times. I assume this is good? YAY!
    Ok so i've checked out a few of them and what i will say is that you should definitely enquire to 4 wheels about joining with them as they send you a free theory test pack (which doesn't require you to join them). It's excellent and really helped me during my theory preparation.

    For these clips, in clip 2 the developing hazard was the child on the side of the road who then wandered out into the road. You can see her and you see that she's disappeared and so you know that she could come into the road and so you know that you'll have to slow down, which is what makes it a developing hazard. Click as soon as you see the child, not when you slow down. Remember that even though there's loads of clips that they could show you, there's generally common themes throughout them which will come up over and over again and things like children wandering into the road is one of them.

    For clip 7, it's the kids on the side of the road who are walking towards the pedestrian crossing. You know that you'll have to stop to let them pass and you know that if you carried on doing the same thing that you were doing, i e driving at a normal speed, you would run them over and that's what makes it a developing hazard, even though it seems like it's just a regular occurence, which it is. It is but try and get into the habit of thinking from the perspective of 'what would happen if i carried on as i am?' and once you answer it and see that the answer isn't good, that's what will alert you to the fact that it's a developing hazard.

    For clip 10 the developing hazard is the white van coming up from the side road at a quick speed, alerting you to the fact that he's going to continue without stopping and so making you slow down to avoid crashing into the back of him.

    Those are the clips i quickly checked out and tbh are the more simpler ones, although for my test they were all quite easy. The best advice i can give you is to get that theory pack, practice it and it sounds obvious but pretend that it's you in the car in the clip and be thinking like a driver, constantly assessing the situation in front of you. I would also recommend booking it soon as personally for me knowing that it was coming up really incentivised me to stop watching
    4oD and Netflix and instead revise for it and has also freed a stress off my head so i can concentrate solely on the practical test.

    Oh and yes, your record for stalling definitely exceeds most people i know and i'm guessing most learners in general, let's hope like denim jeans and repeats of Friends, the trend continues
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    Re: The Learner Driver Progression Thread - MK II
    (Original post by theonefrombrum)
    Ok so i've checked out a few of them and what i will say is that you should definitely enquire to 4 wheels about joining with them as they send you a free theory test pack (which doesn't require you to join them). It's excellent and really helped me during my theory preparation.

    For these clips, in clip 2 the developing hazard was the child on the side of the road who then wandered out into the road. You can see her and you see that she's disappeared and so you know that she could come into the road and so you know that you'll have to slow down, which is what makes it a developing hazard. Click as soon as you see the child, not when you slow down. Remember that even though there's loads of clips that they could show you, there's generally common themes throughout them which will come up over and over again and things like children wandering into the road is one of them.

    For clip 7, it's the kids on the side of the road who are walking towards the pedestrian crossing. You know that you'll have to stop to let them pass and you know that if you carried on doing the same thing that you were doing, i e driving at a normal speed, you would run them over and that's what makes it a developing hazard, even though it seems like it's just a regular occurence, which it is. It is but try and get into the habit of thinking from the perspective of 'what would happen if i carried on as i am?' and once you answer it and see that the answer isn't good, that's what will alert you to the fact that it's a developing hazard.

    For clip 10 the developing hazard is the white van coming up from the side road at a quick speed, alerting you to the fact that he's going to continue without stopping and so making you slow down to avoid crashing into the back of him.

    Those are the clips i quickly checked out and tbh are the more simpler ones, although for my test they were all quite easy. The best advice i can give you is to get that theory pack, practice it and it sounds obvious but pretend that it's you in the car in the clip and be thinking like a driver, constantly assessing the situation in front of you. I would also recommend booking it soon as personally for me knowing that it was coming up really incentivised me to stop watching
    4oD and Netflix and instead revise for it and has also freed a stress off my head so i can concentrate solely on the practical test.

    Oh and yes, your record for stalling definitely exceeds most people i know and i'm guessing most learners in general, let's hope like denim jeans and repeats of Friends, the trend continues
    I love you
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    Re: The Learner Driver Progression Thread - MK II
    (Original post by MelissaJayne)
    Thank you! So we have to click 3/4 times when we see it? So the average amount of times I'll click for a screen is 3/4 unless it's the one with two hazards then it'll be about 8? I did some practice videos online and there were LOADS of hazards per screen.
    If you do this mock test: http://www.2pass.co.uk/mockhazardtest.htm#.UBvw4E1lTCY

    At the end it gives you the mark as well as a description of what the hazard is.
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    yay, got 80%
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    (Original post by MelissaJayne)
    yay, got 80%
    Nice one!

    Quick question, I was just wondering how you personally change gear from 1st to 2nd and how you use the clutch/accelerator? At first I just lifted the clutch up slowly and a few people I know have different ways of doing it. Personally I depress the clutch, change gear and then release the first part of the clutch quickly to about the bite point and then the rest of it slow, adding gas as I lift the last part of it up. I've found it's a lot quicker but I'm not sure how conventional it is to do it this way and so I'm just curious as to how you personally do it.

    Its also worth mentioning that use the clutch like this generally when I'm either going into 2nd from 3rd or approaching a roundabout with the clutch slightly raised in case I need to stop.
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    I hate reverse round a corner SO much, I can do all the manoeuvres except for that, sometimes I can do it fine and other times I'm literally like wtf do I do? :bawling:
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    (Original post by IndiaCaitlinn)
    I've done 18 hours now and I've pretty much nailed bay parking and parallel parking, I just seem to have real problems not hitting the kerb when reversing when I'm doing a turn in the road, I'm learning in a beetle and for some reason I just find it really hard to judge! It's so frustrating because I used to learn in a Suzuki Swift and I never hit the kerb in it
    I get in SUCH a flap if I make a mistake and then I start making more mistakes because I feel so silly when I do something wrong, luckily I've got a great instructor though and she's never got annoyed at all




    I get this before every lesson! I absolutely dread it and I get anxious and start feeling like I want to just quit, but after I've been in the car for 5 minutes I'm absolutely fine!
    It is fairly hard to judge where the curb is- I was always quite far away, but I managed to do the turn so my instructor wasn't bothered. Try doing the turn, then stop the car at a good distance from the curb and see where the curb goes out of view in the window. Then when you do it, keep going forward until the curb is at the same point. Alternatively, you can just go forward and stop when you think you are too far from the curb

    (Original post by oHellno)
    I hate reverse round a corner SO much, I can do all the manoeuvres except for that, sometimes I can do it fine and other times I'm literally like wtf do I do? :bawling:
    Position the left wing mirror so you can see the curb easily, just angle it down so you can see the curb and the side of the car. It makes it much easier.


    (Original post by linkdapink)
    Thanks I've just come back from my 2hours and my instructor says that I'm very nearly there. I did some parallel parking, which was great, did a reverse round a corner which I nailed, but then I kept stalling in random places (mostly roundabouts where I was trying to come up too fast to set off). But over 2 hours, stalling 3 times isn't bad as long as I deal with it correctly.

    My instructor keeps reminding me the driving part of the test is 40mins. Manoeuvres will probably take up 5 mins, so you're only really "driving" for about 35mins. How many mistakes do you usually make in 35mins? Not a lot? That's about half a lesson for 1hr people and only a quarter for 2hr people. Time will fly on the test. That's what I just keep telling myself!
    If you stall and cause an obstruction in the road, then you would fail the test. If you when you are about to exit the junction, then its fine, so long as you aren't half way onto the main road. It depends on the situation. You will find that you naturally will stop stalling fairly quickly though. It's very unlikely that you will still be stalling in the lessons up to your test.

    I disagree with that second part, about the only 35 mins driving in the test. You have to remember that the test will take you on tricky roads, like narrow roads and roads with cars parked on either side. You also are a lot more nervous, so the chance of you making mistakes is much higher. Saying that, you will be more focused so it should help. And time really does fly on the test, you are focusing on driving so you don't take note of the time. (Also, keep telling yourself that luck doesn't affect your test. A good driver will be able to adjust their driving to different roads, no matter how many unexpected events occur!)
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    Re: The Learner Driver Progression Thread - MK II
    (Original post by theonefrombrum)
    Nice one!

    Quick question, I was just wondering how you personally change gear from 1st to 2nd and how you use the clutch/accelerator? At first I just lifted the clutch up slowly and a few people I know have different ways of doing it. Personally I depress the clutch, change gear and then release the first part of the clutch quickly to about the bite point and then the rest of it slow, adding gas as I lift the last part of it up. I've found it's a lot quicker but I'm not sure how conventional it is to do it this way and so I'm just curious as to how you personally do it.

    Its also worth mentioning that use the clutch like this generally when I'm either going into 2nd from 3rd or approaching a roundabout with the clutch slightly raised in case I need to stop.
    Erm, I don't think too much about my technique, I obviously put the clutch down, change the gear, then I lift my foot off pretty steadily I think, a medium pace..but a set one. I find if I do it too fast it wont be as smooth. But taking it to biting point then edging it up seems a perfectly fine and good technique, for me I think that'd take too much thinking/concentration though - I'm a bit lazy with my procedures and just like to get them done
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    (Original post by MelissaJayne)
    Erm, I don't think too much about my technique, I obviously put the clutch down, change the gear, then I lift my foot off pretty steadily I think, a medium pace..but a set one. I find if I do it too fast it wont be as smooth. But taking it to biting point then edging it up seems a perfectly fine and good technique, for me I think that'd take too much thinking/concentration though - I'm a bit lazy with my procedures and just like to get them done
    Alright that's cool, seems like uve got it nailed
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    I'm a bit worried from hearing stories about what people have got majors for.

    I know I will pick up minors, but I'm worried that I might get majors for things like mirrors on rounabouts, coming out too wide on the other side of the road on RRC or even just going to slow on national speed limit.

    I seem to sometimes go in to a round and not even notice a speed limit sign so i'm going down it usually with no idea whether it is 20 or 30 :/
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    (Original post by Mouth)
    I'm a bit worried from hearing stories about what people have got majors for.

    I know I will pick up minors, but I'm worried that I might get majors for things like mirrors on rounabouts, coming out too wide on the other side of the road on RRC or even just going to slow on national speed limit.

    I seem to sometimes go in to a round and not even notice a speed limit sign so i'm going down it usually with no idea whether it is 20 or 30 :/
    All I can say is that the two majors I got were completely fair - they were potentially dangerous errors of judgment. I think the minors I got were also completely fair - for instance when I passed I forgot to put the car in gear at traffic lights and tried to move in neutral, but dealt with it quickly, calmly and safely so it was no big deal. Just focus on staying relaxed and safe and you'll be fine.
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    (Original post by IlexAquifolium)
    All I can say is that the two majors I got were completely fair - they were potentially dangerous errors of judgment. I think the minors I got were also completely fair - for instance when I passed I forgot to put the car in gear at traffic lights and tried to move in neutral, but dealt with it quickly, calmly and safely so it was no big deal. Just focus on staying relaxed and safe and you'll be fine.
    More posts like this please people. I much prefer the happy endings to the horror stories!
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    Had my second lesson this morning (hours 2 and 3) which went really well. I went from remembering almost nothing from my first lesson to using third gear and tackling roundabouts by the end of the 2 hours - I'd really recommend a 2 hour lesson for people who can afford it
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    Re: The Learner Driver Progression Thread - MK II
    (Original post by Runninground)
    It is fairly hard to judge where the curb is- I was always quite far away, but I managed to do the turn so my instructor wasn't bothered. Try doing the turn, then stop the car at a good distance from the curb and see where the curb goes out of view in the window. Then when you do it, keep going forward until the curb is at the same point. Alternatively, you can just go forward and stop when you think you are too far from the curb
    thanks!
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    (Original post by Mouth)
    I'm a bit worried from hearing stories about what people have got majors for.

    I know I will pick up minors, but I'm worried that I might get majors for things like mirrors on rounabouts, coming out too wide on the other side of the road on RRC or even just going to slow on national speed limit.

    I seem to sometimes go in to a round and not even notice a speed limit sign so i'm going down it usually with no idea whether it is 20 or 30 :/
    You will only get a major if what you do is dangerous, but it depends on the situation.

    Not checking your mirrors on roundabouts- This would be a serious if the roundabout was a large busy one, as you won't be aware of the traffic around you. It would probably just be a minor on a quite roundabout though.

    I'm not sure what you mean about coming out too wide of the other side of the road, but if you cross the path of an oncoming vehicle and cause it to slow down then it's a major.

    Going slow on a national speed limit is only a minor. I got three of these on my test

    Also, like you I always missed the speed limit signs. I know exactly how you feel Just remember that if the road has street lights then it's likely to be 30. Travel at 30 until you see a sign. On 20 roads its likely that you wouldn't even be able to do over 20 as there are probably parked cars and its a narrow road.
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    (Original post by MelissaJayne)
    More posts like this please people. I much prefer the happy endings to the horror stories!
    Have you passed your test?
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    (Original post by Runninground)
    Have you passed your test?
    haven't taken one yet. Only had 10 hours of lessons.
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    Driving test within the week. I feel sick thinking about it, but excited and confident too. I keep telling myself that I WILL PASS.
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    Argh I have my test on the 18th- not too sure how well it will go. Last lesson I kept forgetting silly things like dropping down into first before moving off and signalling at roundabouts. Its annoying because I know I know what to do- I don't know why I keep forgetting.
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    Re: The Learner Driver Progression Thread - MK II
    (Original post by Runninground)
    You will only get a major if what you do is dangerous, but it depends on the situation.

    Not checking your mirrors on roundabouts- This would be a serious if the roundabout was a large busy one, as you won't be aware of the traffic around you. It would probably just be a minor on a quite roundabout though.

    I'm not sure what you mean about coming out too wide of the other side of the road, but if you cross the path of an oncoming vehicle and cause it to slow down then it's a major.

    Going slow on a national speed limit is only a minor. I got three of these on my test

    Also, like you I always missed the speed limit signs. I know exactly how you feel Just remember that if the road has street lights then it's likely to be 30. Travel at 30 until you see a sign. On 20 roads its likely that you wouldn't even be able to do over 20 as there are probably parked cars and its a narrow road.
    Thanks for all the advice. I'm just over worrying and over thinking (as I always do)
    Trying to be positive and keep telling myself I can pass! I know I can do it!!

    Still need to learn all the show me tell mes though
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