Is it possible to vote for the Labour Party and not loathe white people?
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Re: Is it possible to vote for the Labour Party and not loathe white people?I do think that minority groups are better off than twenty years ago, and yes that's larlgey thanks to labor, I also think people are largley equal. That was not what i was saying. I mean those people who think that all a minority has to do is walk into an interview and they'l get a job those 'political correctness gone mad' people.(Original post by River85)
There is a difference between being "better off" and minority groups being fine, funky dory and perfectly equal. There's certainly a difference between minority gorups being better off and them "taking over the country". It is my firm belief that many minority groups are a lot better off than they were twenty years ago (thanks to both Major and Blair governments) and I say this as someone who does belong to more than one "minority" although not ethically or socio-economically as I'm still White British and middle class.
You cannot generalise all minority groups, or depict them as one, Are Muslims like the disabled? Are black people like gay people? Are Gypsies like South Asians? Some of these groups have suffered from increasing stigmatisation in recent years, as well as further breakdown in society and some have not. -
Re: Is it possible to vote for the Labour Party and not loathe white people?Oh Dear...(Original post by Thingeh)
Can you explain to me what makes Jedism any less worthy than Christianity? I can assure you, they're both as artificial as each other, just Jedism doesn't advocate homophobia, sexism, racism, etc...
Disclaimer: I would describe myself as an atheist; I do not advocate either of the afore mentioned religions. -
Re: Is it possible to vote for the Labour Party and not loathe white people?It wasn't my understanding that voting for labour and loathing white people were mutually exclusive?(Original post by Chi019)
This is a not entirely serious response to Teveth's thread about the Tory Party. If voting Tory makes you racist, does voting Labour make you racist towards whites? Since they clearly feel that the proportion of whites in the UK is too high. The economic concerns were simply window dressing.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...r-adviser.html
http://www.takimag.com/sniperstower/...r_noses_in_it/ -
Re: Is it possible to vote for the Labour Party and not loathe white people?I have my reasons:(Original post by Time Tourist)
MJ... are you being serious about this like that Sikh old boy, or is this some kind of joke for TSR?
http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...6#post24577686

P.S: I don't agree with a BNP point that Prince Rhyus bought up... He stated that the BNP are against "Mixed Race marriages". I think... marry whoever the **** you want.
So i'm not 100% pro-BNP, all parties have their flaws, the tories just have too many.
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Re: Is it possible to vote for the Labour Party and not loathe white people?Well, Labour have been in power for the majority of the past 20 years (13 of 20) so there have obviously been many events and legislation brought in during their time Including SENDA (2001) and the repeal of Section 28 (in 2003) Although significant discrimination legislation was introduced in the Major government including the Disability Discrimination Act of 1995.(Original post by MrCharmed)
I do think that minority groups are better off than twenty years ago, and yes that's larlgey thanks to labor, I also think people are largley equal.
Agreed, but that's not what was being said.(Original post by MrCharmed)
That was not what i was saying. I mean those people who think that all a minority has to do is walk into an interview and they'l get a job those 'political correctness gone mad' people. -
Re: Is it possible to vote for the Labour Party and not loathe white people?Right, I in fact have both Welsh and Irish as well as English grandparents and great-grandparents. But these are still different nations in a sense with distinct cultures laws customs... and to a lesser extent language. And it's always been Scotland, Wales or England that is home in peoples imaginations, not Britain... despite learning to describe themselves as British. I think British really came into use with the rise of the empire... which truly was British and not English.(Original post by River85)
These Kingdoms have been united for for 300 years so no, it's not some modern Bureaucrat invention. Many English people actually have English, Welsh or Irish ancestry? I certainly don't see myself as being "English". Born in Northumberland, half of my greatgrandparents are Irish or Scottish. Being from a Scottish lowland clan.....
Anyway, no, it was your suggestion that to be English you need to be white. Moreoever, not every single one of those people you described as "English" instead of white will be English, will they? Just because they are white they can just as easily be Scottish, Welsh or Irish.
Also, not all Scots are rampant nationists screaming for independence and spit on every Englishman they see in the street. There are many Scots who are proud of being both Scottish AND British.
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Re: Is it possible to vote for the Labour Party and not loathe white people?Interesting stuff.(Original post by *MJ*)
I have my reasons:
http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...6#post24577686

P.S: I don't agree with a BNP point that Prince Rhyus bought up... He stated that the BNP are against "Mixed Race marriages". I think... marry whoever the **** you want.
So i'm not 100% pro-BNP, all parties have their flaws, the tories just have too many.
I thought you were completely left-liberal, not conservative in any sense of the word? -
Re: Is it possible to vote for the Labour Party and not loathe white people?Well I have my doubts how equal certain minority groups would be had labor not been in power the past 13 years. I do not think tories would ever role back rights. I just don't think they would create rights for anyone.(Original post by River85)
Well, Labour have been in power for the majority of the past 20 years (13 of 20) so there have obviously been many events and legislation brought in during their time Including SENDA (2001) and the repeal of Section 28 (in 2003) Although significant discrimination legislation was introduced in the Major government including the Disability Discrimination Act of 1995.
Agreed, but that's not what was being said. -
Re: Is it possible to vote for the Labour Party and not loathe white people?
Clearly, as anyone who doesn't mind immigration is a self-hating racist. And yes, a lot of the black and Asian vote goes to Labour because, generally, the black and Asian communities are not as well of as the white community. It's not some bloody anti-white conspiracy.
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Re: Is it possible to vote for the Labour Party and not loathe white people?But the BNP hate you?(Original post by *MJ*)
I have my reasons:
http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...6#post24577686

P.S: I don't agree with a BNP point that Prince Rhyus bought up... He stated that the BNP are against "Mixed Race marriages". I think... marry whoever the **** you want.
So i'm not 100% pro-BNP, all parties have their flaws, the tories just have too many.
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Re: Is it possible to vote for the Labour Party and not loathe white people?
the problem with immigration and the "original population", is that immigrants come to this country probabaly looking for a better life, the "originals" who are fortunate enough to live here already feel a sense of ownership of a large mass of dirt just off the coats of europe called england. and when immigrants come over and as the locals like to say "steal all our jobs" they dont like it, but its not like the "originals" can go to where the immigrants come from and live there because its probabaly crap. Its give and take, the immigrants get an ok deal out of it, living in a more liberal society where they are relatively safe, sparing the occasional rascial abuse, but what do the locals get? a feeling of good will? No. they believe they are getting the rubbish end of the deal, they get less jobs, less homes, less opportunities, according to them, while the immigrants get everything that the locals already have, the locals dont seem to be getting anything out of it. They feel like they are second priority, while the government is busy accomadating the newbies they feel like they are getting left behind and forgotten, think of it as banks, or when a child has a newborn cibling.
what annoys me though is when they say "they're stealing our jobs", i dont want to generalize here but i live on a working class estate, its rascist and ignorant, most of its occupants are 18 years olds with 3 kids, and the few that actually work are not white, the rest, although there is nothing wrong with them, milk the system completely. The stance most english people seem to take is that "oh we can milk the system dry because we have been here longer then they have!" -
Re: Is it possible to vote for the Labour Party and not loathe white people?Give Nick Griffin's really non-racist comments on Barack Obama a listen.(Original post by *MJ*)
lol.
Why would they hate me for?
Living in Bradford gives you a false impression about them.
Anyway, I personally choose to dislike many ethnics, that's my choice.
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Re: Is it possible to vote for the Labour Party and not loathe white people?STFU Uncle Tom.(Original post by *MJ*)
lol.
Why would they hate me for?
Living in Bradford gives you a false impression about them.
Anyway, I personally choose to dislike many ethnics, that's my choice.
But seriously anyone that honestly thinks the BNP would be anything but negative for ethnic minorities or that Hitler was actually good for Germany is stupid goon.
retarded thread.