[Cayrouse]

Hey everyone!
I'm relatively new here but since I'm gonna go to Uni in the UK next year i'd like to know bit more about British politics.

Could any of you summarize the beliefs of the relatively well discussed parties in the UK eg. Labour, Conservatives, UK Independence Party, Liberal Democrats, British National Party or the Greens.

Also is there a party which represents these following (my) views:

Staying in the EU yet keeping the pound

Pulling out of them Middle east yet maintaining a powerful army but no Trident.
Pro- equal treatment of people regardless of sexual orientation so gay marriage,
Pro Science:stem cells, abortion (i'm pro-choice)

Imposing serious quality screens for immigration like only allowing people with a degree and no criminal record into the country. So keeping immigration but at like 15% of what it is now and being much more selective for people whose skills the UK is lacking and people with qualifications as opposed to people who will live off welfare.

Cutting welfare so as to discourage relaxing on it and to encourage people to actively seek work

Making prison serious so that convicts don't get what some hardworking people can't afford. (Three meals a day, TV with cable etc...) I mean it's prison not camp!

If there aren't any parties (no matter how small or under-known) that match most of these, could you tell me which party suits me based on what i'm revealed so far please?

[Mann18]

"Please, do my research for me."

[yituool]

Sounds kinda like Conservative to me.

[WBoy92]

I think youre more suited to the liberal democrats, since theyre the only major party that wants to scrap trident and withdraw from the middle east. Plus, theyre pro EU yet are for the pound, and are very keen on equal rights.
BTW, I dont support them myself!

[Cayrouse]

(Original post by Mann18)
"Please, do my research for me."

Actually I have an idea of my own, i was thinking as the other two have correctly suggested the Lib democrats or the Conservatives, i also thought of the greens but they'e too anti-nuclear for my tastes.

I'm not much of a socialist ,as you can probably tell, but I'm not closing myself up I'd rather have a look from the beginning so yes I'd like some help with my research but I've done some myself.

Edit: thanks a lot Wboy, do you know anything about their views on science and nuclear energy?

[Mann18]

(Original post by Cayrouse)
Actually I have an idea of my own, i was thinking as the other two have correctly suggested the Lib democrats or the Conservatives, i also thought of the greens but they'e too anti-nuclear for my tastes.

I'm not much of a socialist ,as you can probably tell, but I'm not closing myself up I'd rather have a look from the beginning so yes I'd like some help with my research but I've done some myself.

In related news, scrapping Trident would endanger lives, and it would be very nice to live in a world where everyone loved each other and a little thing called nuclear weaponry didn't exist, but it does.

And as such, the only way to secure oneself from attack is ensuring that you have second strike potential, and thats what Trident does, it's essentially a fleet of "Don't **** with us" submarines. Nuclear weapons are needed in a world where others have them, Mutually Assured Destruction is the only way of ensuring you aren't attacked, and by removing our safeguards, you only endanger lives (How nice, we're back to the beginning.)

I suppose I'm asking you, why would you scrap Trident?

[WBoy92]

(Original post by Mann18)
In related news, scrapping Trident would endanger lives, and it would be very nice to live in a world where everyone loved each other and a little thing called nuclear weaponry didn't exist, but it does.

And as such, the only way to secure oneself from attack is ensuring that you have second strike potential, and thats what Trident does, it's essentially a fleet of "Don't **** with us" submarines. Nuclear weapons are needed in a world where others have them, Mutually Assured Destruction is the only way of ensuring you aren't attacked, and by removing our safeguards, you only endanger lives (How nice, we're back to the beginning.)

I suppose I'm asking you, why would you scrap Trident?

This is the reason that ill never vote for them

[Cayrouse]

I don't oppose maintaining a nuclear deterrent but I question the need for these subs considering their cost. i reckon we have enough "Don't **** with us ICBM's and planes" Do we need the submarines as well?
In a world of Collective security and when Britain has nukes and is part of NATO, the EU and had a 'special' relationship with the world's only superpower I believe that it's safe enough from conventional conflict where the trident could be used no?

I would be pro- Trident if it was significantly cheaper but unfortunately it isn't and won't be so better spend it on alternate sources of energy.

[24/7 student!!]

(Original post by Cayrouse)
In a world of Collective security and when Britain has nukes and is part of NATO, the EU and had a 'special' relationship with the world's only superpower I believe that it's safe enough from conventional conflict where the trident could be used no?

I would be pro- Trident if it was significantly cheaper but unfortunately it isn't and won't be so better spend it on alternate sources of energy.

I majorly agree..why spend all that money on something we actually don't need because , lets be honest, we have plenty of planes and nukes plus friends in high places. That moeny could go on somehing more benficial to the country like alternate energy forces because if we don't solve the climate crisis the there wont be a world worth fighting for......just my opinion

[Victor-PP]

(Original post by Mann18)
"Please, do my research for me."

[Mann18]

(Original post by Cayrouse)
I don't oppose maintaining a nuclear deterrent but I question the need for these subs considering their cost. i reckon we have enough "Don't **** with us ICBM's and planes" Do we need the submarines as well?
In a world of Collective security and when Britain has nukes and is part of NATO, the EU and had a 'special' relationship with the world's only superpower I believe that it's safe enough from conventional conflict where the trident could be used no?

I would be pro- Trident if it was significantly cheaper but unfortunately it isn't and won't be so better spend it on alternate sources of energy.

No. Do some research into what second strike potential is and you'll realise that Trident offers something nothing else can, a mobile threat to other nations. The missiles and planes we have in the UK are good as deterrents, but if a country could find a way to destroy them before we could use them, we'd be ******. Thats why Trident is so good, it's a measure that can be deployed even if the UK has been utterly destroyed, as the submarines are always on the move, ready to fire retaliatory shots.

(sorry if the first part sounded dicky or patronising, it wasn't intended to be so.)