[paddyman4]

(Original post by sc8880)
Who cares what Clegg says? The Lib Dems are a ridiculous party who make up crazy unworkable policies (ie scrapping tuition fees) because they know they'll never have to implement them! They have no experienece whatsoever in running a government and given our debt and the fact we're just coming out of a recession they haven't got a chance.

A repeat of the Antiques Roadshow would have been mroe worthwhile.

I disagree with a lot of Lib Dem policies and won't vote for them, but tbh does anyone in the Tory cabinet have experience of running the country? And as the Lib Dems are the only ones who have made a list of cuts they might make it puts them one step ahead of the other 2 with regards to credibility on economic plans (even if I disagree with some of their proposals).

[WhereIsMyMind]

(Original post by Muffinz)
I love you for posting this.

Hehe. I was going to use [s]facepalm[/s], but I thought it was miles more appropriate.

Besides, I'm not sure what is more cooler: Paxman or the miserable Van Rompuy look-a-like in the back.

[live_on_fascination]

(Original post by DeeDub)
You obviously have never seen JP interview anyone else before.

j/k

Your sig - OMG YOU'RE DAUNT!
I have so much love for anyone and everyone on UC! Apart from Woodhuysen, and Guttenplan irritates me a bit too, but WOW! Exciting stuff.

[Jacky_B]

(Original post by sc8880)
Who cares what Clegg says? The Lib Dems are a ridiculous party who make up crazy unworkable policies (ie scrapping tuition fees) because they know they'll never have to implement them! They have no experienece whatsoever in running a government and given our debt and the fact we're just coming out of a recession they haven't got a chance.

A repeat of the Antiques Roadshow would have been mroe worthwhile.

Oh the arrogance...

If everyone who says they believe in Lib Dem policy voted for them they will have a landslide victory, its this stupid perception that "they will never win" that is stopping them from leading our country.

[Captain Crash]

(Original post by Teaddict)
You mean like Labour when they were first elected?

That's kinda my point - the argument that the Lib Dems have no experience of government is somewhat moot.

[Teaddict]

(Original post by Captain Crash)
That's kinda my point - the argument that the Lib Dems have no experience of government is somewhat moot.

Oh fair enough.
Well I do agree with that somewhat. It is for the MP's to provide private experience of business. The civil service can provide governmental experience when they enter government if you know what I mean.

[sc8880]

(Original post by paddyman4)
I disagree with a lot of Lib Dem policies and won't vote for them, but tbh does anyone in the Tory cabinet have experience of running the country? And as the Lib Dems are the only ones who have made a list of cuts they might make it puts them one step ahead of the other 2 with regards to credibility on economic plans (even if I disagree with some of their proposals).

Labour are doing a great job recovering our economy and making it grow again, and I don't hold them responsible for putting us where we were either (although I know any Tory will argue otherwise ) So would be happiest to just let them carry on, knowing that they can unlike the other 2 unproven parties.

Who do you think Clegg will side with if there was a hung parliament? You would think the Liberal Democrats princibally would be more in line with a Labour government and their policies but apparently Clegg was a Tory at Cambridge University so....

[Komakino]

I'll have to see it tomorrow. However Nick did however you have to say fair play to him for doing the interview when neither Brown nor Cameron would. Paxo is notorious for his aggressive interviews, great entertainment value, but yes I suppose it can be annoying if he won't let people have their say. I had hoped Nick would come off as confident, I'll have to see tomorrow and give my verdict.

[Sakujo]

(Original post by Teaddict)
They will support the party with the largest mandate; though they don't specify what makes up the mandate, but they won't support a Tory budget if they are cutting expenditure. So in effect, what they are saying is we will support you if we agree with you which means their comments about a mandate is utter rubbish.

It's called compromise.

[Teaddict]

(Original post by Sakujo)
It's called compromise.

No no no.
The Liberal Democrat leader clearly specified that he and his party would vote against a Tory budget that proposed cuts straight away. Now, he cannot claim to support a mandate for the Tories (if they are the largest) and then say he wouldn't support them if he disagrees.

[sc8880]

(Original post by Captain Crash)
That's kinda my point - the argument that the Lib Dems have no experience of government is somewhat moot.

Well actually i take your point literally and say, no the conversatives have no experience either in dealing with modern day politics. Labour have brought us sooo far in 15 years and they're doing great bringing us out of the recession they can not take responsibilty for putting us in to. The Tories however are unproven and 'experts' have said they're cuts could be disastrous for the economy. Whether this is true or false, Labour are doing fine in the present and I'd rather that than take a risk with a Tory party who won't benefit me in any way. Mainly because I don't have a million pounds sitting in the bank with an estate worth £3.3 million and a pack of hungry hounds in my 10 acre garden.

[AirRaven]

I thought he came out of it rather well, actually- really hit his stride towards the end on education.

[sc8880]

(Original post by Jacky_B)
Oh the arrogance...

If everyone who says they believe in Lib Dem policy voted for them they will have a landslide victory, its this stupid perception that "they will never win" that is stopping them from leading our country.

And long may this stupid perception continue

[WhereIsMyMind]

(Original post by sc8880)
Well actually i take your point literally and say, no the conversatives have no experience either in dealing with modern day politics. Labour have brought us sooo far in 15 years and they're doing great bringing us out of the recession they can not take responsibilty for putting us in to. The Tories however are unproven and 'experts' have said they're cuts could be disastrous for the economy. Whether this is true or false, Labour are doing fine in the present and I'd rather that than take a risk with a Tory party who won't benefit me in any way. Mainly because I don't have a million pounds sitting in the bank with an estate worth £3.3 million and a pack of hungry hounds in my 10 acre garden.

I hear this 'economy' business constantly from the Labour brigade. If I may quote Janet Daley:

I cannot understand the logic of not only Gordon Brown's tactic of taking on the business community instead of the Tories in the general election campaign but also the argument that somehow the conservatives are taking six billion pounds out of the economy by not enacting a full tax rise.

Now, tax rises take money out of the economy, the real economy. Gordon Brown actually seems to believe that the economy consists of state spending and that by depriving the state of this revenue you are taking money out of the economy when in fact it's precisely the opposite.

The real economy consist of actual money: the money that one earns, the money that one spends as a private individual. And the more that you remove earnings from people who are employed and the more you penalise employers for taking on new staff (which is what this would be, this is what Americans call a 'payroll tax'), the more money you take out of the real economy so it is precisely the opposite of what he is claiming. Now there are lots of things he could have said in defence of this tax rise but the defence that he's making is bizarre.

Absolutely economically illiterate.

[TruckBear]

I thought he came across very well. Harman on The Campaign Show on the other hand...

'Is the manifesto Blair+?'
Harriet Harman MP: 'If Mandelson says so, then I suppose it must be right.'

[W.H.T]

(Original post by bourney)
Is anyone watching the interview on BBC1? I can't believe how arrogant Jeremy Paxman is, he won't stop sighing, doesn't actually listen to what Nick is saying. Basically scoffing at whatever Nick says.

what interview? newsnight hasn't even been shown yet tonight so how could you have seen it?

[Teaddict]

(Original post by sc8880)
Well actually i take your point literally and say, no the conversatives have no experience either in dealing with modern day politics.

Neither did Labour and what we got was a few good years where Labour followed Tory budgets, then we got over spending and tax increases.

Labour have brought us sooo far in 15 years

The Tories however are unproven and 'experts' have said they're cuts could be disastrous for the economy.

You mean like the hundred or so business leaders that support the Tories.

Whether this is true or false, Labour are doing fine in the present and I'd rather that than take a risk with a Tory party who won't benefit me in any way. Mainly because I don't have a million pounds sitting in the bank with an estate worth £3.3 million and a pack of hungry hounds in my 10 acre garden.

Pathetic class based discrimination. You don't have to be a millionaire to benefit under the Tories. The poor do well under the Tories if they are willing to work for a living and work as hard as they can.

[WhereIsMyMind]

(Original post by W.H.T)
what interview? newsnight hasn't even been shown yet tonight so how could you have seen it?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00s67vd

It was a special interview.

[TruckBear]

(Original post by WhereIsMyMind)
I hear this 'economy' business constantly from the Labour brigade. If I may quote Janet Daley:

You can only take money out of the British economy by shoving in a mattress for the rest of time, or exporting it. That tax is being spent in whatever way the government sees fit, just like in the private sector, and as such is still in the British economy (unless they're buying things from abroad, of course, also like the private sector).

Whether it's being spent efficiently, is another matter, of course.

[WhereIsMyMind]

(Original post by IeuanF)
You can only take money out of the British economy by shoving in a mattress for the rest of time, or exporting it. That tax is being spent in whatever way the government sees fit, just like in the private sector, and as such is still in the British economy (unless they're buying things from abroad, of course, also like the private sector).

Whether it's being spent efficiently, is another matter, of course.

I agree, it's still within the British economy. But like I quoted, there's more (a lot more) to the economy than the state purse and state spending. I'm with the LibDems' on their proper 'tax relief/breaks'. It's up to individuals, like yourself and I, to get this money moving within the UK.