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(Chemical/Civil) Engineering without maths at A2?

Hi there, I'm in year 13, and I have a change of heart about what I want to study at uni. At the moment I hold an offer for biochemistry, but having read a lot into different careers I think I would much rather study engineering. I will reject my offer (from UCL) as I know now I don't really want to study biochemistry for 3 years. However, I dropped maths after AS, only achieving a C at AS! Are there many universities which offer reputable engineering courses without needing a maths at A2? I could easily get my AS from a B to a C, however I know that you need it at A2. Any foundation courses or anything as such which may allow me to study chemical or civil engineering? Thanks in advance...

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Don't even attempt engineering without at least a full A level in maths (or after taking a foundation course). Engineering (including chemical) is mainly maths.
I think Maths at A2 is a standard requirement for all civil and chemical engineering courses. Several places have foundation years, including Sheffield, Manchester, Surrey, Nottingham, Birmingham, Southampton... probably many more :smile:
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Won't happen. The minimum you need for most places is Maths and Physics, preferably Further Maths in the mix too is possible.
if you got a C in maths and then dropped it. you obviously don't like it very much and so would struggle ALOT with engineering.

you'll only ever get into it by doing a foundation course. and because you dropped maths, many admissions tutors may not give you a place on their foundation course
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didgeridoo12uk
if you got a C in maths and then dropped it. you obviously don't like it very much and so would struggle ALOT with engineering.

you'll only ever get into it by doing a foundation course. and because you dropped maths, many admissions tutors may not give you a place on their foundation course


Oh, there are places going on UCAS Xtra to the likes of Nottingham and Birmingham foundation courses, and I have 3 As at AS predicted 3 As at A2Level, and had 9 A*s at GCSE. Would this allow me a good chance at engineering at uni. I didn't struggle with AS Maths as such to be honest (well obviously I did a little with a C), but the only reason I got this C (2 marks off a B) is that I did not revise AT ALL for maths exams as I was concentrated on my three other subjects, as I was sure I needed them for what I wanted to do - however as I was informed very little at the time, sadly, I obviously could have done with maths!
jkmm91
Oh, there are places going on UCAS Xtra to the likes of Nottingham and Birmingham foundation courses, and I have 3 As at AS predicted 3 As at A2Level, and had 9 A*s at GCSE. Would this allow me a good chance at engineering at uni. I didn't struggle with AS Maths as such to be honest (well obviously I did a little with a C), but the only reason I got this C (2 marks off a B) is that I did not revise AT ALL for maths exams as I was concentrated on my three other subjects, as I was sure I needed them for what I wanted to do - however as I was informed very little at the time, sadly, I obviously could have done with maths!


its really a hard call. my advice would be to ring up the admissions offices of the places you are thinking of applying to. and explain the situation to them.
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didgeridoo12uk
its really a hard call. my advice would be to ring up the admissions offices of the places you are thinking of applying to. and explain the situation to them.


cheers for the advice, I've emailed a few unis today, just waiting for a reply. Will also phone them too. I know where everyone is coming from here, saying I need maths and about me dropping it, etc, but I may as well give it a go.
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Do a foundation year
Reply 9
You won't have much chance with an AS in maths. Your best bet is a foundation course, or perhaps take up A2 in the year you've got out as you're going to drop biochem? Most unis do a foundation course that will get you straight into an engineering degree by the way.
I'm doing chem eng

stay at least 20 feet away from chem eng if you haven't done A2 maths lol
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Don't think you'll be able to get in without doing alevel maths, unless you do a foundation year.
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What about Leeds, they don't even require maths at A-Level? What are your views on the chemical engineering course at Leeds, and is it fully accredited?
Portsmouth offer a route into civil engineering without maths/physics a level, with their construction engineering management BEng course which allows you to transfer to year two of Civil Engineering BEng with an average of 60% or the MEng version with an average of 70% in the first year. I recently accepted an unconditional as firm. Portsmouth is an ok uni too, as it is one of few uni's that have their own specialist CE departments. I too was opting for a biology based degree before having a change of heart, and pursuing this field; which subsequently left me on a gap year.
Well firstly I’m a ChemE student (from a Biochem/Lab Tech background as well!). I believe that 99.9% of humans could take up an engineering degree if they really wanted it.

Mathematics or not the biggest hurdles you will have to contend with will be motivation. If you are motivated enough you will find a way to get in and get on. This advice applies to almost anything in life. I’ve failed before (at Civil Engineering as it happens) for this reason alone, I became complacent and lazy but learned a valuable lesson from it as well.

I encourage you to explore the outer limits of your potential, even if you can only roll with the punches at first you learn a valuable lesson about yourself. The greatest failure is never to try. Then just learn to love a bit of grit, no success is without failure and listen to the wise words of Ali:
I'll show you how great I am.

Good luck :yep:.
Hippopothomas
I believe that 99.9% of humans could take up an engineering degree if they really wanted it.

If you are motivated enough you will find a way to get in and get on.


You'd be surprised how many young people are deluded into thinking the latter is true. They watch too many films with happy endings and, which is most important, believe them. You have to be realistic and take sensible timescales into account.

As for the first statement, it is utter rubbish. 99.9% of humans includes those that are simply too unintelligent to cope with the academic demands and those with learning and other difficulties that would preclude advanced study. Try and be realistic about your claims.
Fair point on the learning disabilities, I could have worded that better. Though to some extent everybody I’ve met faces challenges studying difficult subjects.

You have to be realistic but regardless of how you approach the problem there is only one way to eat an elephant. I’ve met a variety of people with engineering degrees (in various disciplines) and the overwhelming unifying theme between appears to be persistence rather than outright intelligence :smile:.
Surrey will accept you onto the full Chem Eng course with just an AS, you'll probably have to get a B though.

http://www2.surrey.ac.uk/undergraduate/courses/chemicalengineering/
rabidmonkey
Surrey will accept you onto the full Chem Eng course with just an AS, you'll probably have to get a B though.

http://www2.surrey.ac.uk/undergraduate/courses/chemicalengineering/


That isn't quite what they say. They say they would prefer a full A level and, presumably, will be prioritising their offers towards those candidates that offer it, leaving those with just an AS hoping. It may be that no candidates with just an AS will receive offers, and they are certainly likely to be in the minority unless the candidates as a whole are exceptionally relatively unfitted for engineering.
Good bloke
That isn't quite what they say. They say they would prefer a full A level and, presumably, will be prioritising their offers towards those candidates that offer it, leaving those with just an AS hoping. It may be that no candidates with just an AS will receive offers, and they are certainly likely to be in the minority unless the candidates as a whole are exceptionally relatively unfitted for engineering.


Thats fair enough, i never said the OP was gaurenteed an offer. I just said they would accept his application.

Obviously he would be at a disadvantage, but a speculative application wouldnt hurt, especially when if he wants to do engineering he'd probably have to take another year to do Maths to A2 anyway.

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