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  1. officeface's Avatar
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    Re: Oxford Maths.
    (Original post by IAmTheChosenOne)
    For the interview, will it only be based on C1 and C2 like MAT?
    Or would it be adjusted to what each applicants have learnt so far?
    It should just be C1 and C2 knowledge, with a chance of early stats or mechanics thinking in some questions. I was asked whether I had done integration - to which I replied yes - and given some more difficult C4 substitution questions, but I suppose if you said you hadn't then they would just move on. A lot of what they ask has nothing to do with C1 or C2 and is off the syllabus, weird stuff - but simple enough to not be too hard.
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    Re: Oxford Maths.
    (Original post by starkrush)
    The first question I got in my first interview, as a Further Maths applicant, was a C3 question. Pretty much all the rest were about the ability to think rather than actual knowledge, but judging by that question I suspect it'll be adjusted a little.

    (Original post by officeface)
    It should just be C1 and C2 knowledge, with a chance of early stats or mechanics thinking in some questions. I was asked whether I had done integration - to which I replied yes - and given some more difficult C4 substitution questions, but I suppose if you said you hadn't then they would just move on. A lot of what they ask has nothing to do with C1 or C2 and is off the syllabus, weird stuff - but simple enough to not be too hard.


    Thank you both of you.

    Do you have any advice on how to prepare for the interview by the way?
  3. starkrush's Avatar
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    Re: Oxford Maths.
    (Original post by IAmTheChosenOne)
    Thank you both of you.

    Do you have any advice on how to prepare for the interview by the way?
    Find whatever past interview questions you can on the internet without looking too hard - the idea should be to get the idea of what questions might be like and how you might approach them. Chances are though that whatever you get will be fairly unfamiliar, so don't try too hard!
  4. Noble.'s Avatar
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    Re: Oxford Maths.
    (Original post by bilal95)
    When you talk about weird and thinking based questions in the interview, do you mean weird maths problem solving questions or weird worded questions such as (What is the color of the whiteboard? or Would you rather be an apple or an orange?). And what are the other general questions they ask (non-maths based) ?
    They won't ask you stupid questions like that - it tells them nothing about your mathematical abilities. Don't expect anything in the way of non maths based questions except ones made to put you at east. You'll be there to do the maths questions and that's all they'll care about.
  5. LtCommanderData's Avatar
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    Re: Oxford Maths.
    (Original post by bilal95)
    When you talk about weird and thinking based questions in the interview, do you mean weird maths problem solving questions or weird worded questions such as (What is the color of the whiteboard? or Would you rather be an apple or an orange?). And what are the other general questions they ask (non-maths based) ?
    (Original post by Noble.)
    You'll be there to do the maths questions and that's all they'll care about.
    This. "A mathematician is a machine for turning coffee into theorems". Would you ask a toaster whether baked beans are better cooked on the hob or in the microwave?

    EDIT:

    Out of curiosity, which would you rather be? I think I'd be an orange. They're a bit thicker-skinned
    Last edited by LtCommanderData; 22-04-2012 at 21:04.
  6. officeface's Avatar
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    Re: Oxford Maths.
    (Original post by LtCommanderData)
    This. "A mathematician is a machine for turning coffee into theorems". Would you ask a toaster whether baked beans are better cooked on the hob or in the microwave?

    EDIT:

    Out of curiosity, which would you rather be? I think I'd be an orange. They're a bit thicker-skinned
    It's sort of simple. Orange juice tastes nicer than apple juice. Therefore I'd prefer to be an apple as there would be a smaller probability of crushing myself and subsequently attempting to drink myself.
  7. LtCommanderData's Avatar
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    Re: Oxford Maths.
    (Original post by officeface)
    It's sort of simple. Orange juice tastes nicer than apple juice. Therefore I'd prefer to be an apple as there would be a smaller probability of crushing myself and subsequently attempting to drink myself.


    But if you were an orange, you'd be firstly on a tree with loads of other oranges and later probably in a bowl of other oranges, so you could drink all of those!

    Now I want some orange juice and don't have any
  8. anyone_can_fly's Avatar
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    Re: Oxford Maths.
    (Original post by LtCommanderData)
    This. "A mathematician is a machine for turning coffee into theorems". Would you ask a toaster whether baked beans are better cooked on the hob or in the microwave?

    EDIT:

    Out of curiosity, which would you rather be? I think I'd be an orange. They're a bit thicker-skinned
    Orange all the way. They're brighter, and more cheerful, and you'd have a higher chance of growing up in a warm country.
  9. anyone_can_fly's Avatar
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    Re: Oxford Maths.
    Just wondering - should we assume that we're going to have to do the practice problems for new students? Or do some tutors set different summer work instead, or none, or certain sheets? Also, the sheets seem really weird - half the questions are incredibly easy and the other half I'm stuck on. Is this normal?


    In other news, my procrastination from revision seems to have reached new levels. :ninja:
  10. LtCommanderData's Avatar
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    Re: Oxford Maths.
    (Original post by anyone_can_fly)
    Just wondering - should we assume that we're going to have to do the practice problems for new students? Or do some tutors set different summer work instead, or none, or certain sheets? Also, the sheets seem really weird - half the questions are incredibly easy and the other half I'm stuck on. Is this normal?


    In other news, my procrastination from revision seems to have reached new levels. :ninja:
    Nobody in my year at my college did it, but then it turned out that we were meant to have done it but they had forgotten to send the email telling us to do so. I don't think all colleges ask you to do them, and I don't think all of those that do expect you to finish them all. It can't hurt, though, and there's a decent chance you will be expected to do them, so if you want to do them anyway, go for it. Not having done them myself, I can't really say how useful they would be.

    If I remember rightly, some people were discussing these problems last year in this thread, so if you get particularly stuck feel free to ask us lot.
  11. LtCommanderData's Avatar
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    Re: Oxford Maths.
    This is thinking ahead a bit, but when do we normally get mods results back? And how do we get them?
  12. RichE's Avatar
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    Re: Oxford Maths.
    Everything you need to know is on the most recent notice to candidates, available at

    http://www.maths.ox.ac.uk/system/fil...and_Mods_1.pdf

    Notification of Results
    The Moderators hope to finalise the class and pass lists byWednesday 11th July. After 11th July, to find out your results you may log on to the Student Self Service at www.ox.ac.uk/current_students, for which you should have a student self service user ID (printed on your university card) and password. Neither Schools staff nor Mathematical Institute staff can give results over the telephone.
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    Re: Oxford Maths.
    I was thinking of combing through the lecture notes and making a list of all the theorems that I might be expected to know (and know by name) for mods, and know how to prove, just to make it easier to focus revision by looking down the list and seeing what I'm less sure on. Before I spend the time, does anyone know if such a list already exists/has anyone made one already?


    (Original post by RichE)
    Everything you need to know is on the most recent notice to candidates, available at

    http://www.maths.ox.ac.uk/system/fil...and_Mods_1.pdf

    Notification of Results
    The Moderators hope to finalise the class and pass lists byWednesday 11th July. After 11th July, to find out your results you may log on to the Student Self Service at www.ox.ac.uk/current_students, for which you should have a student self service user ID (printed on your university card) and password. Neither Schools staff nor Mathematical Institute staff can give results over the telephone.
    Cheers for that.
  14. Lm137's Avatar
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    Re: Oxford Maths.
    (Original post by LtCommanderData)
    I was thinking of combing through the lecture notes and making a list of all the theorems that I might be expected to know (and know by name) for mods, and know how to prove, just to make it easier to focus revision by looking down the list and seeing what I'm less sure on. Before I spend the time, does anyone know if such a list already exists/has anyone made one already?




    Cheers for that.
    I suppose you could work from the synopses (e.g. here (which I think you can access without logging in), but I would recommend making the list yourself. That way, you look through the whole course at least once and understand how things build on top of one another a bit more, rather than just knowing a bunch of theorems. It really doesn't take long to do, either.

    Although, having written all that, I've just realised I'm probably a week or two late...
  15. twig's Avatar
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    Re: The Oxford Mathematics Thread
    Hello guys,

    For the current undergrads (and prospective undergrads hoping to start this year I guess), would you say some work needs to be done "brushing up" my maths before starting university? Or is little knowledge assumed at the beginning of the course? I kind of want to enjoy my last summer of doing nothing before uni, but also don't want to be at an disadvantage compared to other students at the beginning of the course.

    Also, during university (part of the maths course or otherwise) are there any opportunities to be taught programming (e.g. languages such as C++, Java, etc.) for inexperienced students? I understand this may not be examined/ related to the courses, but would be very useful.
    Last edited by twig; 21-07-2012 at 11:42.
  16. Lm137's Avatar
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    Re: The Oxford Mathematics Thread
    (Original post by twig)
    Hello guys,

    For the current undergrads (and prospective undergrads hoping to start this year I guess), would you say some work needs to be done "brushing up" my maths before starting university? Or is little knowledge assumed at the beginning of the course? I kind of want to enjoy my last summer of doing nothing before uni, but also don't want to be at an disadvantage compared to other students at the beginning of the course.

    Also, during university (part of the maths course or otherwise) are there any opportunities to be taught programming (e.g. languages such as C++, Java, etc.) for inexperienced students? I understand this may not be examined/ related to the courses, but would be very useful.
    I would say it's very likely that your college will send you some work to do over summer that will require some revision of your A-level material, but it's not going to take more than perhaps 3-4 full days (or, more likely, a couple of hours a day for a couple of weeks). If your college doesn't send work, I'd recommend perhaps looking at a couple of past A-level papers as a means of revision anyway.

    However, I don't think the purpose of this is to ensure you know certain facts, but rather to get you back into the habit of thinking about maths and ensuring you're not 'rusty'. The first couple of weeks will recap a lot of material from A level (in particular complex numbers, matrices) but at a fairly swift pace - you might not have a problem with the actual material, but coming round to a new way of thinking about problems and adapting to the higher volume of work is easier if you're in a good problem-solving mindset.

    As for programming, there are pretty limited (read: not really any) opportunities for pure mathematicians to learn the sort of languages used in software development (e.g. Java, C++). However, you'll use the maths-based programming language MatLab, and in third and fourth years you can take a couple of Computer Science modules, including Functional Programming, in which you study the language Haskell - not much use for coding a computer game, but very interesting theoretically and useful in certain mathematical applications.

    Sorry for going on a bit!
  17. cooldudeman's Avatar
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    Maths at Oxford Uni
    hi, i really want to apply but i have a few questions,
    the Aptitude Test in Mathematics, is that the only like extra exam you have to do to get in? i looked on the web and it only mentions that. and this exam is the year your applications get sent off? which is going to be this year for me. it's so different for Cambridge... they have to do STEP which is after all of your final A2 exams right?

    it seems easier to do the oxford one but i could be wrong.
    and how do you actually get entered for this Aptitude Test for oxford? do you automatically get to do it if you just apply or is it something else?

    last thing, how do people fail to get an interview? because that seems like the biggest part of getting into the uni. is it the AS grades or personal statement or...? i did the original three AS, maths, fm and phy and got AAA. i also did law and got a B, one mark away from a A, but im obviously dropping that (actually, i already have).
    Last edited by cooldudeman; 17-08-2012 at 19:58.
  18. fluteflute's Avatar
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    Re: Maths at Oxford Uni
    (Original post by cooldudeman)
    hi, i really want to apply but i have a few questions,
    the Aptitude Test in Mathematics, is that the only like extra exam you have to do to get in? i looked on the web and it only mentions that. and this exam is the year your applications get sent off? which is going to be this year for me. it's so different for Cambridge... they have to do STEP which is after all of your final A2 exams right?

    it seems easier to do the oxford one but i could be wrong.
    and how do you actually get entered for this Aptitude Test for oxford? do you automatically get to do it if you just apply or is it something else?

    last thing, how do people fail to get an interview? because that seems like the biggest part of getting into the uni. is it the AS grades or personal statement or...? i did the original three AS, maths, fm and phy and got AAA. i also did law and got a B, one mark away from a A, but im obviously dropping that (actually, i already have).
    Yep it's the only extra exam. Yes you do it in early November if I remember right.

    Yeah STEP for Cambridge, Warwick, Bath (and probably a few others) is in the Summer, at the same time as your A level exams.

    The Oxford system is less pressure at exam/results time, because you don't have that extra test. 50% of those who get Cambridge maths offers don't meet the offer.

    The main thing to do to get an interview is to do well in the MAT.
  19. cooldudeman's Avatar
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    maths personal statements
    could some people who got into oxford to do maths show me their personal statement please. i have absolutely no idea how to write one and i can't really ask my teachers since college is still closed. i wanted to get a head start so i posted here.

    i just want to see what to include and the structure and length of the successful ones, even though from what i have heard, the PS is like the least important thing to get an interview.
    Last edited by cooldudeman; 20-08-2012 at 01:41.
  20. Woostarite's Avatar
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    Re: maths personal statements
    This might help? There's bound to be at least one Oxbridge one in there.
    http://www.studential.com/personalst...se.asp?type=34
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