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Considering a career in the Royal Navy.

I've applied for university and have my offers but I have never been a hundred percent about them. I came across the Navy when a neighbour explained his experience with them and I became interested. I have spent a lot of time reading info on their very helpful website and i really like the look of it. Wondering if anyone has any advice? would really appreciate it. Also wondering whether a knowledge of boats and swimming experience is necessary cause I dont have either but I am keen to try anything new and I am in good fitness.

cheers.
Reply 1
Trekkies&TVaddicts
I've applied for university and have my offers but I have never been a hundred percent about them. I came across the Navy when a neighbour explained his experience with them and I became interested. I have spent a lot of time reading info on their very helpful website and i really like the look of it. Wondering if anyone has any advice? would really appreciate it. Also wondering whether a knowledge of boats and swimming experience is necessary cause I dont have either but I am keen to try anything new and I am in good fitness.

cheers.


I've been in the Royal Navy as an Aircraft Eningeer for last 4 and half years, leaving at the end of June to start a law degree this September.

Personally speaking, it isn't the life for me. I always regretted not going to uni when I left college, I just couldn't decide what course I wanted to do so I joined up to learn a trade, travel the world etc. I have done those things, but I cannot envisage 22 years of this.

If you want to know anything specific about the navy, do not hesitate to ask me :smile:

As for the question about boats and swimming...

I cannot swim very well at all, I still managed to pass my swimming test at Raleigh (where you do your initial training) though. It isn't hard at all. You have to tread water for 2 minutes whilst wearing overalls, and then swim 2 lengths.

As for knowledge of boats, you do not need any prior history/experience of boating whatsoever.
fkos
I've been in the Royal Navy as an Aircraft Eningeer for last 4 and half years, leaving at the end of June to start a law degree this September.

Personally speaking, it isn't the life for me. I always regretted not going to uni when I left college, I just couldn't decide what course I wanted to do so I joined up to learn a trade, travel the world etc. I have done those things, but I cannot envisage 22 years of this.

If you want to know anything specific about the navy, do not hesitate to ask me :smile:

As for the question about boats and swimming...

I cannot swim very well at all, I still managed to pass my swimming test at Raleigh (where you do your initial training) though. It isn't hard at all. You have to tread water for 2 minutes whilst wearing overalls, and then swim 2 lengths.

As for knowledge of boats, you do not need any prior history/experience of boating whatsoever.


ah fab.

any advice on any of the following:

fitness? pay? training period? were you an officer or rating? perks? life experience? entry requirements?

as little or as much as you like.

cheers pal.
fkos

As for the question about boats and swimming...

I cannot swim very well at all, I still managed to pass my swimming test at Raleigh (where you do your initial training) though. It isn't hard at all. You have to tread water for 2 minutes whilst wearing overalls, and then swim 2 lengths.


That is awful any one can tread water for 2 min, i would honestly expected you to all be able to swim a good couple of miles in training.
I'm sure all the info you need is on the RN website....
Reply 5
Trekkies&TVaddicts
ah fab.

any advice on any of the following:

fitness? pay? training period? were you an officer or rating? perks? life experience? entry requirements?

as little or as much as you like.

cheers pal.


Well....

Fitness: The level of fitness that will be expected of you when you first join will not be particularly high. A basic level will see you through the first few weeks. A good indicator of whether you're fit enough would be to go for a 1.5 mile (2.4k) run. This is the standard fitness test that you're expected to pass with the required time towards the end of your time at Raleigh. If you're under 25 years old, you will have to complete it under 11.13. If you can get underneath this time before you start Raleigh then you will have no problems at all. It isn't hard tbh.

Pay: Pay isn't brilliant to start off with, it will soon improve though. I'm just a standard rating (ie - I havn't been promoted, I'm not an officer) and I'm earning just under 21k atm. If you get your head down and try to get promoted you can realistically expect to reach leading hand level with 5 years. The pay at this level will be at least 26k, rising to above 30k depending on time served. As an officer you can expect to earn a lot more than ratings who have served the same time. A leiutenant can expect to earn 30-40k easily. The real money takes a few years to kick in, this is to encourage people to stay in and not leave early (like me!).

Training period: Initial training for me was 8 weeks, although I believe this has now gone up to 9 weeks. I'm not sure how long it is for officers, it will be considerably longer though. After initial training (how to become a sailor, how to march etc etc) you will go off and learn your trade. As I mentioned, I'm an aircraft engineer. I spent 6 months at HMS Sultan in Portsmouth learning basics about aircraft, this is mainly the theory side of things and involves lots of books and tests. I was then drafted to my first squadron at RNAS Culdrose in Cornwall. I spent another 6-7 months learning to fix helicopters hands on. From joining the navy to becoming a fully qualified engineer took about 14 months. My trade requires more training than most others within the navy though. If you join as a chef/warfare specialist/weapons engineer etc you can expect to be fully qualified well within a year.

Perks: You will learn a trade, this may prove useful in a future capacity. You have job security. Pay is good if your decide to stay on for a decent length of time (5+ years). There is a very big social side to life in the military, lots of nights out (may not be a perk if you're not a big drinker). You will make some close friends. You get to travel, not so much in my trade though. I have had a few good trips, I spents several months in the States and have been to quite a few countries around Europe. Loads of chances to play sports. If I'm being honest, there are loads of perks. The reason I'm leaving is because the military life is not for me. I find it too restrictive, I like to lead a life on my own terms. However, there will be a lot I will miss when I leave in 2 months.

Life Experiences:
It may be a MASSIVE cliche, but life in the navy is what you make of it. There are a million chances to do things that you may never have experienced. I wenting skiiing in Bavaria last year and it didn't cost me a penny. A mate of mine went hiking in Peru for 3 weeks not so long ago. If you're half decent at a particular sport, you will get a chance to play competitively (and get loads of time off as a result). The big atraction for many is the chance to travel. You will go to lots of cool places, although a lot of the time you will only get to see the city where you're docked. You will meet loads of new people as well, some of them you'll become close friends with, some of them you will hate their guts (only natural when you're living, working, socialising with the same people all the time).

Entry Requirements:
Depends on which trade you choose. It also depends on whether you want to join as an officer. My trade required 5 GCSEs A-C when I joined, I think this may have changed though. Most trades do not require any qualifications. Officers often need a degree, this can be in any subect though and it doesn't even have to be a good degree (2:2 would probably be enough). A lot of the guys I work with are more intelligent than the officers if I'm being honest :biggrin:
You may be required to take additional maths/aptitude tests if you're joining as an engineer. You also have to pass a medical and a couple of interviews. The interviews were more of a formal chat though, to make sure you're not a terrorist or something.
Reply 6
nojoegohome
That is awful any one can tread water for 2 min, i would honestly expected you to all be able to swim a good couple of miles in training.


People always say this to me..

'what! you're in the Navy and you can't swim!!!!?!!111'

I always say 'why should I have to!'. I fix aircraft for a living, in 4 and a half years I have not once been anywhere near a situation that required me to swim :p:

If you join as a diver you will quite rightly be expected to be a strong swimmer. Any other trade and it's not a big deal.
fkos
People always say this to me..

'what! you're in the Navy and you can't swim!!!!?!!111'

I always say 'why should I have to!'. I fix aircraft for a living, in 4 and a half years I have not once been anywhere near a situation that required me to swim :p:

If you join as a diver you will quite rightly be expected to be a strong swimmer. Any other trade and it's not a big deal.


Yes i know that's great and all but what happens when the communists sink your aircraft carrier and you have to tread water for more than 2 minutes?
Reply 8
Are you gay?
Reply 9
I dont know anything about the navy but if your still interested in uni you can get navy sponsersip for some courses and then you have to work for them for so llong after but itll be a decent job
Reply 10
nojoegohome
Yes i know that's great and all but what happens when the communists sink your aircraft carrier and you have to tread water for more than 2 minutes?


Ahhh, the pesky communists, well if that ever happens I'll be f**ked, won't I? :smile:

I work on land btw, almost always have. So unless someone sinks half of Cornwall, I'm sure I'll be fine.
fkos
Well....

Fitness: The level of fitness that will be expected of you when you first join will not be particularly high. A basic level will see you through the first few weeks. A good indicator of whether you're fit enough would be to go for a 1.5 mile (2.4k) run. This is the standard fitness test that you're expected to pass with the required time towards the end of your time at Raleigh. If you're under 25 years old, you will have to complete it under 11.13. If you can get underneath this time before you start Raleigh then you will have no problems at all. It isn't hard tbh.

Pay: Pay isn't brilliant to start off with, it will soon improve though. I'm just a standard rating (ie - I havn't been promoted, I'm not an officer) and I'm earning just under 21k atm. If you get your head down and try to get promoted you can realistically expect to reach leading hand level with 5 years. The pay at this level will be at least 26k, rising to above 30k depending on time served. As an officer you can expect to earn a lot more than ratings who have served the same time. A leiutenant can expect to earn 30-40k easily. The real money takes a few years to kick in, this is to encourage people to stay in and not leave early (like me!).

Training period: Initial training for me was 8 weeks, although I believe this has now gone up to 9 weeks. I'm not sure how long it is for officers, it will be considerably longer though. After initial training (how to become a sailor, how to march etc etc) you will go off and learn your trade. As I mentioned, I'm an aircraft engineer. I spent 6 months at HMS Sultan in Portsmouth learning basics about aircraft, this is mainly the theory side of things and involves lots of books and tests. I was then drafted to my first squadron at RNAS Culdrose in Cornwall. I spent another 6-7 months learning to fix helicopters hands on. From joining the navy to becoming a fully qualified engineer took about 14 months. My trade requires more training than most others within the navy though. If you join as a chef/warfare specialist/weapons engineer etc you can expect to be fully qualified well within a year.

Perks: You will learn a trade, this may prove useful in a future capacity. You have job security. Pay is good if your decide to stay on for a decent length of time (5+ years). There is a very big social side to life in the military, lots of nights out (may not be a perk if you're not a big drinker). You will make some close friends. You get to travel, not so much in my trade though. I have had a few good trips, I spents several months in the States and have been to quite a few countries around Europe. Loads of chances to play sports. If I'm being honest, there are loads of perks. The reason I'm leaving is because the military life is not for me. I find it too restrictive, I like to lead a life on my own terms. However, there will be a lot I will miss when I leave in 2 months.

Life Experiences:
It may be a MASSIVE cliche, but life in the navy is what you make of it. There are a million chances to do things that you may never have experienced. I wenting skiiing in Bavaria last year and it didn't cost me a penny. A mate of mine went hiking in Peru for 3 weeks not so long ago. If you're half decent at a particular sport, you will get a chance to play competitively (and get loads of time off as a result). The big atraction for many is the chance to travel. You will go to lots of cool places, although a lot of the time you will only get to see the city where you're docked. You will meet loads of new people as well, some of them you'll become close friends with, some of them you will hate their guts (only natural when you're living, working, socialising with the same people all the time).

Entry Requirements:
Depends on which trade you choose. It also depends on whether you want to join as an officer. My trade required 5 GCSEs A-C when I joined, I think this may have changed though. Most trades do not require any qualifications. Officers often need a degree, this can be in any subect though and it doesn't even have to be a good degree (2:2 would probably be enough). A lot of the guys I work with are more intelligent than the officers if I'm being honest :biggrin:
You may be required to take additional maths/aptitude tests if you're joining as an engineer. You also have to pass a medical and a couple of interviews. The interviews were more of a formal chat though, to make sure you're not a terrorist or something.


cheers for all your help mate. i really like the sound of it. and convinced my mum it was a viable career choice (task and a half).
is it vital to have a degree before becoming an officer?
how was the aptitude test?
how often do they recruit?
Reply 12
Trekkies&TVaddicts
cheers for all your help mate. i really like the sound of it. and convinced my mum it was a viable career choice (task and a half).
is it vital to have a degree before becoming an officer?
how was the aptitude test?
how often do they recruit?


Tell your Mum that you can do a lot worse than joining the navy, especially in the current jobs climate. I'm taking a big gamble by leaving, you've gotta do what you've gotta do though :yep:

I'm not 100% sure about the need for a degree to be become an officer. Officers have their own trades. If you joined as a pilot or aircraft observer I think would need a degree, the aptitude test to become a pilot is very hard as well. However, if you joined as a stores officer (for example) you probably wouldn't need a degree. The navy website can tell you a lot more than I can about becoming an officer :smile:

The aptitude test to become an aircraft engineer wasn't too bad. It helps if you're half good at maths (and if you are interested in mechanical things then I wouldn't envisage you having a problem)

You can usually tell if the navy/raf/army are actively recruiting by the number of adverts you see on the tv. You tend not to notice these things unless you're looking out for them, but every so often there will be a period of several months where you see loads of adverts on the tv. Once they have the required numbers of new recruits, the adverts then tend to die away for a while. If you see an advert then you can be pretty certain that they're crying out for new people. Having said that, they're are constantly taking on new people. I just went into my local AFCO (Armed Forces Careers Office) one day on a whim and several months later I had a job offer. Btw, the recruiting process takes a while. I applied in early 2005, got offered the job but didn't actually join the navy until the December of that year. Each trade has its own waiting list, they'll be able to tell you more in the AFCO though.
Four days go you wanted to join the Army! Go to an Armed Forces Careers Office and speak to the people there. Look at all of their websites because most everything you've asked is on there.
ProStacker
Four days go you wanted to join the Army! Go to an Armed Forces Careers Office and speak to the people there. Look at all of their websites because most everything you've asked is on there.


i only said i was considering it. and also someone suggested the navy so i went and had a look at that.
Reply 15
What is the Navy recruit test like? Ive heard from some people its hard, and others its easy
cliffdog
What is the Navy recruit test like? Ive heard from some people its hard, and others its easy


Do you think that some people found it hard and some people found it easy then? Perhaps some passed and some didn't. That is why they have tests - to weed out those they don't want.
Reply 17
Speaking from your experience in the Royal Navy, would you advise someone to join them? Marvin

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