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    Greetings from TSR UKIP! Feel free to use this thread to ask us any questions

    Leader: toronto353

    Deputy Leader: Afcwimbledon2
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    i never pegged you as a UKIP type
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    Like some parts. UKIP would be better off disolving as the Conservatives have already tried to push forward a bill which gave people a referendum on the EU.
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    [QUOTE]/ Like some parts. UKIP would be better off disolving as the Conservatives have already tried to push forward a bill which gave people a referendum on the EU. /[QUOTE]


    Surely Ukip should only dissolve there IS a referendum on the EU not when theres another promise of one.
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    This thread isn't needed. If all parties had an ask a party thread and, what is essentially a manifesto thread this forum would be saturated.
    There's an Ask the UKIP thread, ask the speaker if he can edit the first post on that to include this. I don't see any reason that we should be awash with UKIP threads, just because you had a change of leadership.
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    Ugh, A Referendum on the Death Penalty?
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    (Original post by Indievertigo)
    This thread isn't needed. If all parties had an ask a party thread and, what is essentially a manifesto thread this forum would be saturated.
    There's an Ask the UKIP thread, ask the speaker if he can edit the first post on that to include this. I don't see any reason that we should be awash with UKIP threads, just because you had a change of leadership.
    I wasn't particularly aware there had been a change in leaderhip. Point noted, though I think you're playing it fast and loose with 'awash' =]

    If Dayne decided he feels that's best then I have no objections personally, as such I felt it was perfectly legitimate to make others aware. Perhaps this could be the NEW ask thread and the other can be deleted?

    I'm very new to the MHoC so please excuse any ignorance.
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    (Original post by Internationale)
    Ugh, A Referendum on the Death Penalty?
    Yes. As a party with no strong opinion either way we feel it is only right to allow the public to decide.
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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    I wasn't particularly aware there had been a change in leaderhip. Point noted though, I think you're playing it fast and loose with 'awash' though =]

    If Dayne decided he feels that's best then I have no objections personally, as such I felt it was perfectly legitimate to make others aware. Perhaps this could be the NEW ask thread and the other can be deleted?

    I'm very new to the MHoC so please excuse any ignorance.
    That's whoever is in charge of UKIP's decision, if they want to change that thread to this one fair enough, I'd suggest changing the title of this thread so it is more applicable in that case.
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    (Original post by Indievertigo)
    That's whoever is in charge of UKIP's decision, if they want to change that thread to this one fair enough, I'd suggest changing the title of this thread so it is more applicable in that case.
    Ok thanks for the advice, it's perfectly reasonable and I will alter the title soon.
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    (Original post by Indievertigo)
    That's whoever is in charge of UKIP's decision, if they want to change that thread to this one fair enough, I'd suggest changing the title of this thread so it is more applicable in that case.
    I will have a word with Dayne, to see what is the best way to deal with this, whetehr to remove the other thread, or join them together etc.

    As for the dealth penalty referendum, as paddy_power has pointed out, we do not really have strong beliefs one way or another when talking to party members, so we feel it is fairer, and more diplomatic to offer a referendum, so that the public may decide how they want things that could affect their lives so greatly to work, not the government.
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    (Original post by DayneD89)
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    Mr Speaker, please could you remind TSR UKIP that threads relating to their policies should be kept in their relevant thread, and should not flood the forum with their manifesto in some sort of an attempt to gain attention.
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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    As a first step towards the rejuvenation of TSR UKIP, myself and bun have amended, reviewed and compounded our policies into what I hope is a more concise, lucid and ultimately more accessible document.

    I am aware their is already an 'ask a...' thread, but I felt the creation of a new one for this purpous was more conduicve to our aims.

    This is not a definitive set and, as such, It would be disingenuous of me to declare that it was; it is however legitimate to say that any amendments will likely still be in line with what is written. We invite reasoned debate and discussion, and hope to move the party in a better direction than the one it has been travelling in.

    Thanks, Paddy.

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    Defence

    TSR UKIP is fully invested in our armed forces, who we feel are currently undersupplied and undervalued. To address this egregious fault we pledge to increase defence expenditure by 40% (roughly 1% of GDP) which will facilitate the expansion, and adequate equipping of our armed forces in tandem with a restoration of the Royal Navy to its 2001 state and the modernisation of select fleets within the Royal Air Force; the operational bonus for troops serving in Afghanistan will also be increased. We continue to recognise the importance of NATO objectives, but would like to see a move towards a smaller target-based system so as to counter the threats we face in a more considered, efficient manner. As a direct result of the ever present risk of terrorism from the Middle East we feel it is of paramount importance that we remain diverse, strong and flexible so as to be able to counter any actions from those who seek to do the country harm.

    We also:
    • Favour keeping trident whilst searching for better ways to protect this country.
    • Favour full withdrawal from Iraq and re-assessment of our aims in Afghanistan.
    • Plan to increase helicopter numbers.
    • Plan to increase the basic pay of members of the army and the TA.

    Law and Order

    TSR UKIP will ensure the British people have a government with the will, and ability to punish those who threaten and harm them. We believe victims’ rights take precedence over the rights and comfort of criminals and that it is time to adopt a zero-tolerance stance on crime. Currently, Police officers spend too much time undertaking work that would be better done by other people, which would allow police offers to patrol our streets and make our citizens feel safe. The Police Force must be able to carry out their job with confidence and discretion.

    Directly appointed County Police Boards with the power to appoint and dismiss police constables will make the police democratically accountable and will ensure local views have a direct effect on policy priorities rather than blindly following Home Office diktats. TSR UKIP demands a serious return to beat policing.

    We will offer a referendum on removing the misconceived Human Rights Act. This will make Britain safer by removing obstacles that prevent the deportation of dangerous Imams, terror suspects and criminals to countries where they are wanted for trial. This policy is in line with the UK’s current prisoner exchange and extradition treaties.

    We will also:
    • Ensure ‘life’ means life
    • Offer a referendum on the death penalty.
    • Halt European moves to give prisoners the vote.
    • End the scandal of early release and weak sentencing.
    • Rebalance the law in favour of property/home owners who combat intruders.
    • Withdraw from the European Arrest Warrant scheme, blocking unfair extraditions.
    • Strongly oppose plans for a new European Public Prosecutor.
    • Allow binding national referenda on controversial public law and order issues that are outside party politics; the public must have final say.

    Education

    The TSR UKIP party believes it is the responsibility of the state to ensure that a quality education is provided for all, whatever age, background or ability, with a full and unashamed interest on the “three R’s” at an early age. The party believes that the right of parents to choose a school for their children is pointless unless schools are free to differ from one another. As such, help will be given to ensure the survival of grammar, public, specialist and state schools, with no single type of school given preference. In order to ensure the survival of private schools, the tax free status of said schools will be upheld. To maintain equality, TSR UKIP thinks a voucher scheme should be introduced, whereby educational funds equivalent to the average cost of state schooling follow the child to the school of the family’s choice – including private schools, where if necessary, fees will be topped up by parents. If schools continually, and after inspection, fail to adhere to the required standards, they will be given an ultimatum, and will be expected to pass a random inspection at some point over the following 6 months so that we can gauge any improvement, or lack thereof. In the case of the latter, the school will be shut and fined.

    We also:
    • Intend to have a thorough look at altering both the curriculum, and methods of testing; this will be aided and informed by leading academics and the head teachers our best performing schools across the educational spectrum.
    • Seek to foster a more flexible education system which both caters to the acceleration of our most capable students and facilitates affording our least able students the extra help they need to succeed.

    Welfare and Pensions

    TSR UKIP believes that the success of a state is measurable only by looking at its poorest people. As such we wish to address the misguided and unfair system that is currently failing those that need it most. We plan to make volunteering, in a plethora of forms and decided by local councils, compulsory to all those on JSA who have not found jobs within 6 months; failure to participate will result initially in the benefit suspended and, if absenteeism persists, being taken away.

    As well as this, the age-dependant nature of ‘Income Support’ will be addressed so that people of all ages receive commensurate funds, which will mean an increase for younger people; we feel this is important in terms of not alienating our young people and ensuring we do not foster a climate of resentment – which in this case is currently justified.

    We propose to only allow entitlement to welfare benefits after a minimum waiting period of five years and upon obtaining British citizenship for those who originally entered the country with a valid work permit or for reasons of marriage to a British citizen. Anyone who had entered the country under any other circumstances would not qualify. We also fully support those who cannot work and have disabilities. We don’t propose any changes to Disability Living Allowance, Attendance Allowance or Mobility Allowance.

    In order to end discriminatory, and over complex, means testing on pensions, UKIP would roll all existing State pensions, Pensions Credit, the Winter Fuel Allowance into a flat-rate non-means tested, non-contributory and non-taxable “Citizen’s Pension” of £130 per week for all pensioners aged 65 and over. We also plan to leave the EU, thus avoiding massive liabilities in supporting unfunded EU pensions that would wreck the UK economy.

    Immigration

    The TSR UKIP believe that the drastic nature of our current immigration situation calls for drastic action; in this case, that will be in the form of an initial 5year ‘freeze’ on immigration, with the aim of stabilising the country and 'stemming the flow', followed by a strict points based system (similar to that of Australia) and an annual immigration cap set at 50,000; in tandem with this, all over-stayers will be deported. Conditions of entry would include competency in the British language and a willingness to integrate fully into society. To combat illegal immigration we would create a dedicated Border Police Force which will be an expansion of our current Borders Agency. In order to enforce these procedures we must leave the European Union as, whilst we are part of this farcical, circumscribing partnership, we have no control over our own borders.

    Restoring, and perpetuating, 'Britishness'

    TSR UKIP ardently believes in the concept of British pride and, by extension, inherent ‘Britishness’; we reject the belief that pride in a country needs to be manifested as ethnic nationalism; instead anyone can celebrate Britain. Threats to this notion are plentiful, coming from the left (who believe that embracing our own culture runs counter to their promotion of multiculturalism), nationalist parties and groups whose aim is the Islamification of Britain, an idea we find abhorrent.

    In a move towards addressing these threats, TSR UKIP will abolish assembly members, who will instead become MPs (the respective countries interests would be discussed at monthly meetings in their parliament buildings).

    We will also:
    • Deport foreign preachers of hatred towards the west and, more specifically, Britian.
    • Ban the Burqa.
    • Work to promote Britishness which will be achieved by supporting British sports teams, the Royal Mail, the Monarchy and British pubs.
    • Allow religious buildings to be built only after it has been allowed by a local referendum.
    • Re-introduce ‘The Treason Act’ under which people who harm Armed Forces personnel can be prosecuted.

    Energy and the environment

    We dispute the as of yet unproven theory of man-made climate change and thus oppose the use of ‘green taxes’. We support the building of new nuclear power stations on existing sites, the building of new clean coal plants, recycling initiatives and plan to invest in research pertaining to car technology to make cars more efficient and cut emissions.

    We oppose wind farms in general and require large new wind power schemes to be funded by the market. Most current schemes have proved uneconomic, often operating at less than a third of capacity - sometimes less than a tenth - thereby producing a derisory amount of power. We will ensure that any large new wind farms are constructed offshore. TSR UKIP regards onshore wind turbines and the accompanying power lines as eyesores in our beautiful countryside.

    We will also:
    • Aim to reduce greenhouse gases emissions by 2020 and an 80% cut by 2050.
    • Plan to offer every household the right to have up to £6,500 worth of home insulation, with the costs being met from the savings that arise.
    • Attempt to ensure all new homes are energy efficient by 2016.
    • Commit to increasing nuclear power generation to provide up to 50% of our electricity needs as other sources have been shown to be unreliable.
    • Pass hybrid Acts of Parliament to accelerate the planning process and allow old reactors to be replaced.
    • Support the efficient extraction of indigenous coal for use in cleaner, coal-fired electricity generation plants.
    • Pull out of EU Carbon Trading Schemes, the proposed EU Carbon Tax and binding targets on renewable and bio fuels.
    • Ban schools from using global warming propaganda such as Al Gore’s film ‘An Inconvenient Truth’.
    • Divert billions of pounds of funding from wasteful global warming-related spending toward environmental improvements of real value, encouraging effective methods of recycling.
    • Support electric road vehicles, the comprehensive electrification of rail lines and will invest in more flood and coastal defences.

    Transport

    TSR UKIP believe that every citizen has the right to travel the UK safely and cheaply whether this is using public or private transport, as such we will invest £3bn, that will be gained from our withdrawal from the EU into the UK’s road and railway system and will make sure this money goes to British infrastructure as opposed to European infrastructure. We will open three new high-speed railway lines and review other, currently disused railway lines, with the possibility of opening them in the future. We will encourage more rail competition and reward successful rail operators. We support the idea of local councils having more powers with regards to the running of local public transport and also the idea of franchising certain forms of transport.

    TSR UKIP will impose a charge on foreign lorries using British roads in the form of a ‘Britdisc’. We also acknowledge the danger of overweight lorries and will crackdown on these ‘killer lorries’, we also oppose EU proposals to raise the weight allowance of lorries. We believe rail should be used as an alternative method of transporting freight and should also be considered as opposed to aviation transport, particularly at night.

    We also:
    • Support the idea of a new airport in the Thames estuary, and will have a serious look at the building of a third Heathrow runway, something we feel will create much needed jobs and aid our economy.
    • Support the idea of BAA selling off one of its three London airports and also certain airports in close proximity to each other (e.g. Glasgow and Edinburgh). We oppose “green taxes” that are commonly placed on flights.
    • Support the idea of global trade from Britain and therefore will invest in non-channel ports and investigate the possibility of opening new ports; we will introduce a national strategy for ports and a comprehensive freight distribution plan.
    • Insist that all seamen using British waters have received top quality training.
    • Plan to support and improve vital ferry services within the British Isles.

    Health

    TSR UKIP believes strongly in the principles of the NHS, which should continue to deliver care free at the point of delivery on the basis of need, not ability to pay. However, we believe NHS management is bureaucratic and wasteful, and that major reform is vital to retain and improve NHS healthcare services.

    We will encourage County Health Boards to put out to tender key NHS services ranging from Long Term Care to local hospitals and GP surgeries which will be done by franchising key services - run on a fixed budget - to charitable associations, not-for-profit and profit-making private companies, partnerships and individuals. This will precipitate private sector efficiency and innovation, while fixed assets, responsibility and direction remain firmly in public hands.
    We want to place medical staff back at the heart of the NHS, replacing bureaucrats and managers. Franchises will require clinically-trained Matrons to run hospitals, taking a dominant role on wards and primary responsibility for hospital cleanliness and the fight against MRSA.

    We will also:
    • Make no cuts in NHS frontline health services but substantially reduce NHS waste and bureaucracy.
    • Make the NHS directly and democratically accountable.
    • Improve initial and continues training for all healthcare professionals.
    • Introduce new elected County Health Boards which will be comprised of healthcare professionals who will be elected by the county’s voters every four years in the manner of local council elections.
    • Improve NHS management and accountability, and utilise NHS funds better, by abolishing overlapping layers of bureaucracy such as EU inspired Strategic Health Authorities and Primary Care Trusts.
    • Raise the pay of all nurses, to redress the disparity between their pay, and doctor’s pay.

    The Economy [Done]

    In order to reduce unemployment, and get Britain working again, to start a positive economic circle, we propose to create over one million jobs with public and private investment, by creating jobs to provide defence equipment, nuclear power stations, flood and coastal protection, transport infrastructure including high-speed rail lines and new prisons. We think we should abolish very costly schemes such as carbon capping, emissions trading, and landfill taxes, as these are unnecessary drains on our economy, which is already in a somewhat execrable condition.

    We also:
    • Believe that by leaving the E.U. Britain could save up to £60billion a year.
    • Think that we should axe Britain’s ‘quango’ mountain and public sector non-jobs, to reduce UK national debt.
    • Believe that by replacing VAT with a ‘Local Sales Tax’ to help councils and local businesses, we could keep money within local towns, to help improve local Britain.
    • Propose cuts in corporation taxes and the abolition of inheritance taxes, which we believe is grossly unfair.

    Foreign Affairs

    While UKIP is realistic about the difficult economic and political challenges Britain faces, we take a positive view of Britain's place in the world which is a stark contrast to the defeatist and apologetic stance taken by other parties. We recognise Britain as a global player with a global destiny and not a regional state in a United States of Europe and believe we have an impressive 'portfolio of power', i.e. an impressive array of economic, diplomatic, military and cultural power. For example, it has one of the biggest economies in the world, a Permanent UN Security Council member and a key player in the G20

    TSR UKIP would promote the relationship with the Anglosphere and Commonwealth, which are vibrant, dynamic and growing. It is to this international community that Britain most naturally belongs, and would most naturally thrive in. We support setting up a Commonwealth Free Trade Area (CFTA). Given the extraordinary economic power of the Commonwealth, such a bloc would be a global economic sensation. It could also interlock with other trade blocs to enhance global trade and prosperity. We would retain friendly and profitable trade relationships with EU countries after withdrawal. TSR UKIP would sign a UK-EU Free Trade deal, similar to the free trade deals the EU has with over 50 other non-EU countries but as its largest trading partner.

    We also:
    • Support Britain's continued membership of the UN.
    • Plan to withdraw from the EU, and thus reclaim our independent, influential seat at the WTO from which Britain could negotiate with other powers.
    • Continue to support NATO
    • Favour trade over aid as a vehicle for combating global poverty, but still remain committed to providing aid in emergencies.
    • Wish to see a single clear and realistically achievable goal outlined for British troops in Afghanistan so as to justify their continued involvement or would seek a negotiated withdrawal.

    why not use the wiki to outline your parties aims and polocies, it can always be set up as a link for you and other parties if you wish to have it at the top of the forum. it'll be a clearer way of outlining your policies and inform people using a resource on TSR without the need for having to create a whole thread on it.
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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    Yes. As a party with no strong opinion either way we feel it is only right to allow the public to decide.
    Killing murders is Sick and Immoral and shouldn't even be contemplated.
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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    Yes. As a party with no strong opinion either way we feel it is only right to allow the public to decide.
    Agreed there!
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    (Original post by abucha3)
    Mr Speaker, please could you remind TSR UKIP that threads relating to their policies should be kept in their relevant thread, and should not flood the forum with their manifesto in some sort of an attempt to gain attention.
    TBH I don't see a problem with the way it has been done. It's one thread. In fact you have done very similar threads on many occasions. Still, if the UKIP want it merged with ther ask a... thread then I would be able to.
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    (Original post by DayneD89)
    TBHIt's one thread. In fact you have done very similar threads on many occasions.
    Exactly why I suggested merging, there's no need for so many threads on one party regardless of whether it's news or not. One party, one thread IMO.
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    (Original post by DayneD89)
    TBH I don't see a problem with the way it has been done. It's one thread. In fact you have done very similar threads on many occasions. Still, if the UKIP want it merged with ther ask a... thread then I would be able to.
    Well if the Speaker could provide me with an example, then I would be most gracious. I can confirm that I have not posted threads on behalf of a party promoting its manifesto.
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    (Original post by DayneD89)
    TBH I don't see a problem with the way it has been done. It's one thread. In fact you have done very similar threads on many occasions. Still, if the UKIP want it merged with ther ask a... thread then I would be able to.
    Thanks for the support on this issue, and for the speedy response
    I think it's probably best to remove the old 'ask a...' thread, and use this as our new one. Thanks.
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    (Original post by DayneD89)
    TBH I don't see a problem with the way it has been done. It's one thread. In fact you have done very similar threads on many occasions. Still, if the UKIP want it merged with ther ask a... thread then I would be able to.
    We are happy to keep them disparate if this is ok.

    A PM may get to you soon from bun regarding the matter, but it is safe to ignore it as this thread is deemed ok.

    Thanks =]
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