[hamijack]

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Yay Dolorous Edd!

[AugustWestie]

I just watched the first episode and I thought it was great! I don't know why people are saying it was "decent" or "okay." Got the second episode to watch later on tonight.

[Mr.Messy]

This is a great little scene from the season 2 opener.

[hamijack]

Also Cersei is really dumb, she can plot but she isn't intelligent.

[Super Cicero]

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The TV show has really brought it out why people dislike Stannis.He's such an annoying anally retentive dick. The books didn't really bring that across for me as much as the TV show has.

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Personally that's what I thought Stannis was when I was reading the second book, and I actually kind of wanted the Lannisters to win the Battle of the Blackwater, since I love Tyrion, and plus poor Sansa would have been killed if Stannis had won!

However, near the end of A Storm of Swords, and then continuing in A Dance with Dragons, I came to realise that Stannis really isn't that bad, and that he's the only contender for the throne who cares about the threat from the Others. If he just dropped all of Melisandre's red religion BS then he'd have more of a chance!

[Purehakkai]

I just found out about this a week agoo..absolutely love it!!! I watched all of season 1 in 2 days

[AugustWestie]

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Personally that's what I thought Stannis was when I was reading the second book, and I actually kind of wanted the Lannisters to win the Battle of the Blackwater, since I love Tyrion, and plus poor Sansa would have been killed if Stannis had won!

However, near the end of A Storm of Swords, and then continuing in A Dance with Dragons, I came to realise that Stannis really isn't that bad, and that he's the only contender for the throne who cares about the threat from the Others. If he just dropped all of Melisandre's red religion BS then he'd have more of a chance!

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Is it BS though? It's obvious that Stannis isn't Azor Ahai Reborn as Melisandre seems to think he is, but a lot of the stuff surrounding her religion seems to make sense.

I'm disappointed Melisandre didn't refer to Azor Ahai or The Prince Who Was Promised in the bonfire scene in episode 1. I hope they don't attempt to leave that out of the TV series, or they don't leave the whole story behind it out for too long. Seems like it could become quite significant, especially with some of the theories that are going around.

[Super Cicero]

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Is it BS though? It's obvious that Stannis isn't Azor Ahai Reborn as Melisandre seems to think he is, but a lot of the stuff surrounding her religion seems to make sense.

I'm disappointed Melisandre didn't refer to Azor Ahai or The Prince Who Was Promised in the bonfire scene in episode 1. I hope they don't attempt to leave that out of the TV series, or they don't leave the whole story behind it out for too long. Seems like it could become quite significant, especially with some of the theories that are going around.

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While her religion undeniably has some magical powers, it seems a bit predictable and therefore unlikely that someone (probably either Daenerys, Jon Snow, or Bran) will turn out to be Azor Ahai Reborn and the messiah of the Red Religion, and save the world from the Others. I doubt that Melissandre's religion will be established to be the one true faith, especially when Martin (and Tyrion!) is known to be cynical about religious belief.
The point I was making in the previous post about Stannis was that politically, his adherence to the Red Religion was disastrous for him, and was probably one of the main factors behind the Tyrells deciding to back the Lannisters following Renly's death - and if the Reach had chosen differently then Stannis would probably have won the Iron Throne.

[Deshi]

I gave into the pressure and watch the second episode

I can't have been the only one that thought Asha Greyjoy (they gave her a different name in the show?) would be...hot?

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And I cannot recall the ending of that episode being in the book? I can't recall Craster hitting John

Edit: And did Davos not worship the Seven in the book?

[hamijack]

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While her religion undeniably has some magical powers, it seems a bit predictable and therefore unlikely that someone (probably either Daenerys, Jon Snow, or Bran) will turn out to be Azor Ahai Reborn and the messiah of the Red Religion, and save the world from the Others. I doubt that Melissandre's religion will be established to be the one true faith, especially when Martin (and Tyrion!) is known to be cynical about religious belief.
The point I was making in the previous post about Stannis was that politically, his adherence to the Red Religion was disastrous for him, and was probably one of the main factors behind the Tyrells deciding to back the Lannisters following Renly's death - and if the Reach had chosen differently then Stannis would probably have won the Iron Throne.

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And also the events of the later books seem to indicate that the religion of the north seems to have some power as well. My money's on Jon being Azor Azhai cos of reasons.

[JessicaW]

(Original post by Deshi)
I gave into the pressure and watch the second episode

I can't have been the only one that thought Asha Greyjoy (they gave her a different name in the show?) would be...hot?

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And I cannot recall the ending of that episode being in the book? I can't recall Craster hitting John

Edit: And did Stannis not worship the Seven in the book?

I think they changed her name for the show because the thought viewers might get confused with an Asha and and Osha.

[Pheylan]

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I can't have been the only one that thought Asha Greyjoy (they gave her a different name in the show?) would be...hot?

Wait, am I the only one who thought she was hot?

[Deshi]

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Wait, am I the only one who thought she was hot?

I'm not seeing it bro.

[Deshi]

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I think they changed her name for the show because the thought viewers might get confused with an Asha and and Osha.

Ah fairplay. Some of the subtle changes from the book are starting to throw me off a bit

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Do you have any idea which Dothraki died in episode 2? I had no subs for the Dothraki part

[hamijack]

eh, she looks all right, not that hot...

[JessicaW]

(Original post by Deshi)
Ah fairplay. Some of the subtle changes from the book are starting to throw me off a bit

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Do you have any idea which Dothraki died in episode 2? I had no subs for the Dothraki part

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Her bodyguard, I think. She calls him 'blood of my blood', anyway. I'm not sure what his name is. Rakharo, maybe?

[Deshi]

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Her bodyguard, I think. She calls him 'blood of my blood', anyway. I'm not sure what his name is. Rakharo, maybe?

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Yeah that is Rakharo, he doesn't die in the books, hmmmm

[JessicaW]

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Yeah that is Rakharo, he doesn't die in the books, hmmmm

Hmm, I see. I might have it wrong then, but it's my best guess.

[AugustWestie]

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Hmm, I see. I might have it wrong then, but it's my best guess.

From what I've been able to find out, Rakaro in the TV series is isn't actually Rakharo from the books. He is more akin to Jhogo from the books and the writers changed his name to Rakaro to avoid any confusion with Drogo. It is kind of confusing.

[JessicaW]

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From what I've been able to find out, Rakaro in the TV series is isn't actually Rakharo from the books. He is more akin to Jhogo from the books and the writers changed his name to Rakaro to avoid any confusion with Drogo. It is kind of confusing.

Wtf. They obviously succeeded with avoiding confusion.