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  1. jonathancaswell's Avatar
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    Re: Poor fourth AS grade - Medicine?
    Thanks to both of you, helped me a lot. I will have a look on the UCAS website and the specific uni websites.
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    Re: can i still do medicine or is it too late?
    Unfortunately, a D is probably too low for any medical school to be interested. For one thing, if you get a D you will struggle to get predicted an A at A2, which is essential, and even if you did, the D at AS would make you relatively poor competition against other applicants.

    However, it isn't over. Even if results day this year goes crap, if you have the perseverance and dedication to ensure that you get AAA at A2, then no matter what your AS results were, you'll have a good standing at getting a place at medical school. After that, given that you have good enough quality of work experience and maybe a few months voluntary services under your belt, you'll have a reasonable chance at securing that place at medical school. This will mean applying during a gap year.

    For the UCAS 2013 cycle, however, it may be worth your looking to apply to foundation medicine courses, such as the one offered at Southampton. These courses sometimes require lower grades (although some still require high grades!), such as a C at chemistry A level. These courses tend to have 'underprivileged' tags attached to them, which are basically criteria that you have to satisfy. Visit this link and check pages 12-13 for an example. It would be worth it spending this year at least applying to foundation programmes to secure a place in medical school in the long run, because frankly, I do not think that with a D that you will be able to secure a place on an A100 course.
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    Re: can i still do medicine or is it too late?
    Like the guy above said, it all depends on what you get predicted for A2.

    Most unis don't really tend to look at AS results so as long as you have done well in other aspects of your applicatio (along with the A predictions) you could still apply - just resit the unit 2 chem module in January
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    Re: can i still do medicine or is it too late?
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    Like the guy above said, it all depends on what you get predicted for A2.

    Most unis don't really tend to look at AS results so as long as you have done well in other aspects of your applicatio (along with the A predictions) you could still apply - just resit the unit 2 chem module in January
    whats the minimum prediction results that i could afford to get? and what do they base these predictions on?
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    Worth applying for 2013 entry
    I have 1 a* (re) 5 or 6 As (including english science statistics, separate gcse, and history) and B (maths) at gcse. I just finished my unit 2 exams for as and I'm quite sure I would get 1 A (psych) 2 Bs (bio and chem) and a C (maths). Do you think it is worth applying for medicine for 2013 entry or should I wait till I finish A2 get the required grades and then apply for 2014 entry. Could I please have honest answers? If you think the grades are absolutely rubbish for a medical applicant, please say so. Atleast I would know I'm better off applying for a different course. Could you also suggest what kind of universities wouldn't mind these average grades? Thanks
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    Re: The Ultimate 'Am I Good Enough For Medicine?' Angst Thread Mk II
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    whats the minimum prediction results that i could afford to get? and what do they base these predictions on?
    I would believe most med schools would require AAA predictions and these predictions are done by your subject teachers who usually base it on your AS levels.
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    Re: can i still do medicine or is it too late?
    (Original post by sugarysugar)
    whats the minimum prediction results that i could afford to get? and what do they base these predictions on?
    minimum of AAA for standard five year courses. It's up to the teacher to predict what grade you'll get but usually it's based on your AS grades and maybe how you worked throughout the year.
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    Re: Worth applying for 2013 entry
    Might as well try, although the AS grades will make you less desirable for schools which are more accepting of those GCSE's. You'll need a good UKCAT score to compensate for them then.

    I would say try Leicester and Glasgow, maybe UCL if you have a great Personal Statement and are very confident with the BMAT.
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    (Original post by nothepreacher)
    I have 1 a* (re) 5 or 6 As (including english science statistics, separate gcse, and history) and B (maths) at gcse. I just finished my unit 2 exams for as and I'm quite sure I would get 1 A (psych) 2 Bs (bio and chem) and a C (maths). Do you think it is worth applying for medicine for 2013 entry or should I wait till I finish A2 get the required grades and then apply for 2014 entry. Could I please have honest answers? If you think the grades are absolutely rubbish for a medical applicant, please say so. Atleast I would know I'm better off applying for a different course. Could you also suggest what kind of universities wouldn't mind these average grades? Thanks
    ABB in the AS levels of the three subjects you're taking up to A level is fine. Just make sure that you're predicted AAA. The C in Maths may narrow your options as some medical schools require at least a B in the dropped AS. So yes it's still a viable option to apply for 2013 entry provided you choose your medical schools carefully.
    Have a look at these two links
    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/wiki...l_Requirements
    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/wiki...E_Requirements

    (Original post by Helloworld_95)
    Might as well try, although the AS grades will make you less desirable for schools which are more accepting of those GCSE's. You'll need a good UKCAT score to compensate for them then.

    I would say try Leicester and Glasgow, maybe UCL if you have a great Personal Statement and are very confident with the BMAT.
    The OPs GCSEs are not competitive enough for Leicester and UCL take AS grades into account when assessing an application so best to avoid that too.
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    Cs at science in As-medicine still possible??
    Hey everyone, i'm sorry if this is just an ignorant question. not trying to troll or anything so bear with me. :P

    For my AS it's been pretty stressful, i've Taken 5 subjects, and found the workload too much to handle.
    I'm not saying that other people haven't found AS levels difficult, but my teachers have told me i am working at a C/D standard in biology and chemistry, which is a shame because i was hoping to do medicine.
    so given these grades for AS, would i be able to really work hard for A2 and bring them up to A grades overall and get into medical school? if not, i was hoping to try and apply for neuroscience or biomedical sciences (i know biomed's a bit cliché if you can't do medicine, but i am fairly interested in the field as a whole).
    Or modern languages, since they're the subjects i can get A/B grades in more easily.

    Thanks for reading guys, hope i don't come across as being too ignorant.
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    Re: Cs at science in As-medicine still possible??
    (Original post by ElectronicPanda)
    Hey everyone, i'm sorry if this is just an ignorant question. not trying to troll or anything so bear with me. :P

    For my AS it's been pretty stressful, i've Taken 5 subjects, and found the workload too much to handle.
    I'm not saying that other people haven't found AS levels difficult, but my teachers have told me i am working at a C/D standard in biology and chemistry, which is a shame because i was hoping to do medicine.
    so given these grades for AS, would i be able to really work hard for A2 and bring them up to A grades overall and get into medical school? if not, i was hoping to try and apply for neuroscience or biomedical sciences (i know biomed's a bit cliché if you can't do medicine, but i am fairly interested in the field as a whole).
    Or modern languages, since they're the subjects i can get A/B grades in more easily.

    Thanks for reading guys, hope i don't come across as being too ignorant.
    Yes, you can yet get into medicine.

    First, make sure to drop two unnecessary A Levels at A2 so that you have a workload that you can hopefully handle. Then, as you say, bring Chemistry and Biology up to A grade at A2, along with another subject. Then, after achieving AAA at A2, you will be able to apply during a gap year for a good chance of getting into medicine.

    However, do not waste the UCAS cycle of 2013 applying nowhere; don't apply to A100 courses as those grades aren't likely to get you in as you probably won't get predicted the necessary AAA grades; and certainly don't go for the graduate route first. Although I don't have first hand experience, a quick read through this thread will show you that it is much more difficult and damages your chances. During UCAS 2013, it would be worthwhile applying to foundation year medical courses such as the one I mentioned a few posts back (check pages 12-13 for entry criteria). It would be more worth your time applying in the hopes of securing a place in medicine through an access route, because whether or not you took a gap year and got an offer, then you would begin year 1 of the course at the same time either way.
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    Re: The Ultimate 'Am I Good Enough For Medicine?' Angst Thread Mk II
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    In every medical school GCSE's are emphasised, which is why I am worried .
    No they're not.
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    Dreading my UKCAT exam. Have to get a score of around 700 for the graduate entry programme, my practice scores have been 600ish only :/
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    Re: can i still do medicine or is it too late?
    (Original post by sugarysugar)
    whats the minimum prediction results that i could afford to get? and what do they base these predictions on?
    Minimum prediction results would have to be the minimum grade requirements, so AAA. A few unis have 6-year foundation courses in which they may lower requirements depending on how well your school is doing and stuff, but they're really difficult to get into, so its best just trying to get AAA predictions.

    If you don't get those predictions it will be very difficult to get interviewers so I would suggest reapplying and taking a gap year
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    (Original post by sugarysugar)
    I've just finished my AS year and I'm taking chemistry, physics, maths and biology.
    This summer i had to re-sit the AS chemistry because i had a B in january. The re-sit went really well! I'm hoping for an A and i've got 38/40 for my practical.
    But, my chemistry exam for AS went horrifically...
    i think the lowest i could possibly get would be a D?
    If i did get a D.. would my average mark be too low for any medical to even consider me ? and what would my options be if it was too low? eek
    It will depend on your predictions, just get a good amount of work experience and a good ukcat score..
    Also, your overall A2 predictions would most likely be an A if you got an A in one of your modules, so dont worry too much...


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    Re: Cs at science in As-medicine still possible??
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    Yes, you can yet get into medicine.

    First, make sure to drop two unnecessary A Levels at A2 so that you have a workload that you can hopefully handle. Then, as you say, bring Chemistry and Biology up to A grade at A2, along with another subject. Then, after achieving AAA at A2, you will be able to apply during a gap year for a good chance of getting into medicine.

    However, do not waste the UCAS cycle of 2013 applying nowhere; don't apply to A100 courses as those grades aren't likely to get you in as you probably won't get predicted the necessary AAA grades; and certainly don't go for the graduate route first. Although I don't have first hand experience, a quick read through this thread will show you that it is much more difficult and damages your chances. During UCAS 2013, it would be worthwhile applying to foundation year medical courses such as the one I mentioned a few posts back (check pages 12-13 for entry criteria). It would be more worth your time applying in the hopes of securing a place in medicine through an access route, because whether or not you took a gap year and got an offer, then you would begin year 1 of the course at the same time either way.
    i looked at a few of the non-A100 courses on UCAS- a few of them say they won't accept you if have more than one science at a level. does that mean i would have to drop a science next year to have a wider range of courses? what other places could i try applying to if i got both the science A2 subjects?
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    Re: Cs at science in As-medicine still possible??
    (Original post by ElectronicPanda)
    i looked at a few of the non-A100 courses on UCAS- a few of them say they won't accept you if have more than one science at a level. does that mean i would have to drop a science next year to have a wider range of courses? what other places could i try applying to if i got both the science A2 subjects?
    I Believe CraigKirk is talking about widening access foundation courses which have lower grade requirements provided you meet the contextual requirements. The ones you are referring to are premedical foundation courses targeted at students with a limited scientific background (students with wrong A level combination for medicine e.g. Humanities subjects). These still require AAA in most cases though. You shouldn't drop a science because the pre-medical courses wouldn't allow you to apply with more than one science AS level anyway.
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    (Original post by ElectronicPanda)
    i looked at a few of the non-A100 courses on UCAS- a few of them say they won't accept you if have more than one science at a level. does that mean i would have to drop a science next year to have a wider range of courses? what other places could i try applying to if i got both the science A2 subjects?
    As myyrh says, don't drop a science subject - this is likely to restrict your chances further. I was indeed referring to the widening access courses like the one in the link I gave you. Unfortunately, I only know about the extended medical degree programme at Kings and the medicine with a foundation year at Nottingham, aside from the one at Soton. You'll have to look into the details about these and others myself, however, as I don't know thoroughly what is required and I believe there are rather stringent requirements that prove your 'disadvantage' to admissions.
    (Original post by myyrh)
    I Believe CraigKirk is talking about widening access foundation courses which have lower grade requirements provided you meet the contextual requirements. The ones you are referring to are premedical foundation courses targeted at students with a limited scientific background (students with wrong A level combination for medicine e.g. Humanities subjects). These still require AAA in most cases though. You shouldn't drop a science because the pre-medical courses wouldn't allow you to apply with more than one science AS level anyway.
    I didn't know such 'pre-medical' courses existed! Thanks for clarifying for me anyhow. :yy:
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    Medicine post AS grades
    Recently been sitting ny end of year AS Level exams, and I know I haven't done well. I didn't give myself near enough time to revise and don't think I've got the As required to get into medicine which is the subject I would die to study at uni. Is there any possibility of me studying med at uni. I know for a fact from my poor performance I have got Cs/Ds. Will I still be able to get into medicine if I pull my grades up in A2 or do the AS level results mean a straight rejection from universities?

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    just re take it next year
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