This discussion is now closed.
Check out other Related discussions
- Why is Man City hated so much?
- why do people hate Taylor Swift
- Education
- Is UCL full of rich kids?
- St dominics, henrietta barnett, RMS, parmiters or girls grammar??
- Going to university as a poor student, worried about social exclusion?
- Does this still go on at Exeter University
- The Education system more like the biggest scam
- How do I deal with my horrid parents?
- Is earning 25k a year considered poor?
- I'm missing out on sm
- UNIQ 2019 medicine
- What do you think is disgusting that everyone else seems to like?
- A-level French Study Group 2022-2023
- My mom wants to life my life for me
- Why is it bad manners to tell ppl you want to be rich ?
- Explore how dickens presents the suffering of the poor
- White people culture s brown people culture
- Aussie police uninvited from Mardi Gras after double homicide
- I'm planning to steal Christmas....AMA!
Why does everyone seem to hate the 'rich'?
Scroll to see replies
Because the rich usually are so at the expense of the poor. A great proportion perpetuate the exploitation of the worker for the pursuit of profit for example. Those who are born into great wealth are further symptomatic of the inequality and injustice in society, where individual ability and merit are not nearly as valuable as an affluent upbringing in securing success.
DJkG.1
It wasn't a personal attack.
I was pointing out how I don't find it fair to demonise all the rich as he was doing for "watching children starve to death" whilst having large amounts of money just sitting there in the bank.
They don't have at their disposal the means to solve world poverty any more than we do, as non-rich but relatively wealthy (earning in GBP, even small amounts) typically middle class students.
The onus is on all people as much as on the rich specifically, so to let them take all the brunt of criticism doesn't seem to sit very well with me.
I was pointing out how I don't find it fair to demonise all the rich as he was doing for "watching children starve to death" whilst having large amounts of money just sitting there in the bank.
They don't have at their disposal the means to solve world poverty any more than we do, as non-rich but relatively wealthy (earning in GBP, even small amounts) typically middle class students.
The onus is on all people as much as on the rich specifically, so to let them take all the brunt of criticism doesn't seem to sit very well with me.
I wouldn't criticise all the rich, many do attend charity events but rich people are more wary now, since the Michael Jackson case.
I hate the poor far more than I hate the rich.
Olivia_Lightbulb
Because the rich usually are so at the expense of the poor. A great proportion perpetuate the exploitation of the worker for the pursuit of profit for example. Those who are born into great wealth are further symptomatic of the inequality and injustice in society, where individual ability and merit are not nearly as valuable as an affluent upbringing in securing success.
Oh please .... you live in your pseudo socialist middle class little fantasy land at the expense of the real "poor". wake up to reality.
DJkG.1
It wasn't a personal attack.
I was pointing out how I don't find it fair to demonise all the rich as he was doing for "watching children starve to death" whilst having large amounts of money just sitting there in the bank.
They don't have at their disposal the means to solve world poverty any more than we do, as non-rich but relatively wealthy (earning in GBP, even small amounts) typically middle class students.
The onus is on all people as much as on the rich specifically, so to let them take all the brunt of criticism doesn't seem to sit very well with me.
This is, of course, just a perspective.
I was pointing out how I don't find it fair to demonise all the rich as he was doing for "watching children starve to death" whilst having large amounts of money just sitting there in the bank.
They don't have at their disposal the means to solve world poverty any more than we do, as non-rich but relatively wealthy (earning in GBP, even small amounts) typically middle class students.
The onus is on all people as much as on the rich specifically, so to let them take all the brunt of criticism doesn't seem to sit very well with me.
This is, of course, just a perspective.
your points were fair, reasonable and quite correct.
its funny because people who want to be rich tend to hate rich people
people who plan to be rich admire them
people who plan to be rich admire them
screenager2004
Generally, its not wealth in itself that people hate, it's inequality.
People who are rich because they simply inherited the money, and never had to earn it.
People who have earned lots because of nepotism.
People who have distorted veiws of reality because of their wealth. (i.e. People who think people who aren't as wealthy as them are somehow morally inferior, otherwise they'd be rich as well.)
People who feel they are entitled to their wealth and have no humility or sense of perspective to how lucky they are, don't treat their money with respect. I.e. blowing it on women and cocaine when there are children starving down the street.
People who get rich from exploiting others (i.e. the man who pays his staff minimum wage and reaps all the profits for himself, because if you had the power to control wages of your staff, why should you give them a better lifestyle? its not like their part of the company or their labour made you rich in the first place)
People who are rich because they simply inherited the money, and never had to earn it.
People who have earned lots because of nepotism.
People who have distorted veiws of reality because of their wealth. (i.e. People who think people who aren't as wealthy as them are somehow morally inferior, otherwise they'd be rich as well.)
People who feel they are entitled to their wealth and have no humility or sense of perspective to how lucky they are, don't treat their money with respect. I.e. blowing it on women and cocaine when there are children starving down the street.
People who get rich from exploiting others (i.e. the man who pays his staff minimum wage and reaps all the profits for himself, because if you had the power to control wages of your staff, why should you give them a better lifestyle? its not like their part of the company or their labour made you rich in the first place)
I totally agree with the points you make except the two in bold.
- Given one has worked hard to earn their money; why shouldn't they be allowed to blow it on women and (legal) indulging?
- Why is owning a labour-intensive business exploitive? They are paying market and state regulated wages to their employees. Labour-intensive companies are usually not very profitable so cutting profits could only marginally improve wages. You're also self-contradictory: should that profit go to charity or workers?
From my experiences, rich people tend to be snobby and picky towards people that are working class which pisses me off and makes me want to give them the back of my hand!
Very interesting. In the US, from my experience, if you're 'rich' then it is (generally) respected because you have worked hard and achieved in your life. Of course the children of these rich folk are by inheritance often wealthy. There is an argument that if people who have the attributes which make someone successful and wealthy (such as intelligence, drive, determination etc.) then theoretically these traits would be handed down to their offspring. In my experience, the offspring seem to be conditioned from a young age to believe that they are "brilliant" - boosting self confidence, something which is further compounded at top boarding schools. By the time these kids hit Uni, they are very self-assured and confident, and normally go to university with a pre-established group of friends who are normally very similar in possessing these traits.
I have noticed that a great number of these kids are very aware of how lucky they are to have allowances, cars etc. (yes, there are the dicks of course...) however it seems that through the self-confidence that has been developed within them throughout their lives is often mistaken by their peers with different backgrounds as arrogance and general snobbery.
In my experiences I've found that not to be the case, and I'm sure there are people who are jealous of certain people's wealth (I know that I would be) but on the most part it seems to be as someone wrote above, that people hate inequality. Having pondered this for some years, there seem to be a number of different stereotypes, if you will, if these 'rich haters'.
1.) "I was rich back home, but now I'm at Uni, I'm not rich comparatively, so I hate the rich" - pretty self explanatory.
2.) "I'm a Socialist Party Member and I Hate The Rich" - hate the inequality generally, and may or may not feel the same if they were the wealthy ones...
3.) "I hate these rich kids, they haven't worked for anything" - people who generally see themselves as intellectually superior to kids who seem to have much more money than them.
But it seems to me that over all one of the biggest anti 'rich' comments that I've heard is the snobbery comment. However, in my experience this classist view isn't present amongst the wealthy kids, in fact they tend to go about their day blissfully unaware that there is any kind of prejudice... whereby those who are less wealthy seem to have a lot of their time consumed by their hatred of those wealthier than themselves... consequently my only conclusion can be that despite every single argument ever presented against 'rich' people is generally unfounded, and the main motivation is jealousy.
It's very sad that people are so affected by those they barely know. If you find yourself feeling upset by someone because they have more material possessions than you then stop and think for a moment, and just consider that they have been very lucky in life, and for the most part, they recognise that fact.
Below are some random thoughts on and slightly off topic.
It is very easy for someone to argue that wealthy people should give more to those less fortunate than themselves. While in principle that seems like a logical argument. However, it should be noted that in the UK that's already a legal requirement. Those in the 40% tax bracket pay more tax than those who are not and as a consequence there is a wealth redistribution.
From a personal perspective, wealth is the reward for hard work. Someone above said that a lot of people create their wealth through exploiting minimum wage workers in factories. I feel that offering someone a job is not exploitation. Labour needs to realise that it is used as a factor of production purely because it is cost effective. An entrepreneur will use the lowest cost factors of production possible. So if the cost of labour rises, then other more viable alternatives will present themselves, such as machinery designed to do the job of labour. If that were the case, then there would be an even bigger gap between rich and poor.
What makes people wealthy? Drive, determination, intelligence? Hard work? Discipline? I know a gentleman who became very wealthy by working 100+ hours a week as a roofer. He progressed and employed a number of people who were paid well. He's 'rich' - should he be hated?
One final note: about three years ago, I was told at great length how much of an unpleasant character I was (in the third person of course) by a chap who had clearly never met me. He was pretty drunk and clearly forgotten my name from when we were introduced to each other, but still the point stands... I guess.
I have noticed that a great number of these kids are very aware of how lucky they are to have allowances, cars etc. (yes, there are the dicks of course...) however it seems that through the self-confidence that has been developed within them throughout their lives is often mistaken by their peers with different backgrounds as arrogance and general snobbery.
In my experiences I've found that not to be the case, and I'm sure there are people who are jealous of certain people's wealth (I know that I would be) but on the most part it seems to be as someone wrote above, that people hate inequality. Having pondered this for some years, there seem to be a number of different stereotypes, if you will, if these 'rich haters'.
1.) "I was rich back home, but now I'm at Uni, I'm not rich comparatively, so I hate the rich" - pretty self explanatory.
2.) "I'm a Socialist Party Member and I Hate The Rich" - hate the inequality generally, and may or may not feel the same if they were the wealthy ones...
3.) "I hate these rich kids, they haven't worked for anything" - people who generally see themselves as intellectually superior to kids who seem to have much more money than them.
But it seems to me that over all one of the biggest anti 'rich' comments that I've heard is the snobbery comment. However, in my experience this classist view isn't present amongst the wealthy kids, in fact they tend to go about their day blissfully unaware that there is any kind of prejudice... whereby those who are less wealthy seem to have a lot of their time consumed by their hatred of those wealthier than themselves... consequently my only conclusion can be that despite every single argument ever presented against 'rich' people is generally unfounded, and the main motivation is jealousy.
It's very sad that people are so affected by those they barely know. If you find yourself feeling upset by someone because they have more material possessions than you then stop and think for a moment, and just consider that they have been very lucky in life, and for the most part, they recognise that fact.
Below are some random thoughts on and slightly off topic.
It is very easy for someone to argue that wealthy people should give more to those less fortunate than themselves. While in principle that seems like a logical argument. However, it should be noted that in the UK that's already a legal requirement. Those in the 40% tax bracket pay more tax than those who are not and as a consequence there is a wealth redistribution.
From a personal perspective, wealth is the reward for hard work. Someone above said that a lot of people create their wealth through exploiting minimum wage workers in factories. I feel that offering someone a job is not exploitation. Labour needs to realise that it is used as a factor of production purely because it is cost effective. An entrepreneur will use the lowest cost factors of production possible. So if the cost of labour rises, then other more viable alternatives will present themselves, such as machinery designed to do the job of labour. If that were the case, then there would be an even bigger gap between rich and poor.
What makes people wealthy? Drive, determination, intelligence? Hard work? Discipline? I know a gentleman who became very wealthy by working 100+ hours a week as a roofer. He progressed and employed a number of people who were paid well. He's 'rich' - should he be hated?
One final note: about three years ago, I was told at great length how much of an unpleasant character I was (in the third person of course) by a chap who had clearly never met me. He was pretty drunk and clearly forgotten my name from when we were introduced to each other, but still the point stands... I guess.
Because, the rich have become so much richer than the poor not completely through their own efforts, but through the efforts of past tyrants and despots who forged a system of property distribution through coercion violence and theft. The legacy of which enables a tiny minority of the human race to live in luxury and freedom at the expense of the great majority who are paralysed by the same system.
Mrm.
Oh please .... you live in your pseudo socialist middle class little fantasy land at the expense of the real "poor". wake up to reality.
I was just about to quote her with "Champagne Socialism anyone?" but noticed you'd done it. My hero.
inherited wealth.
comes in for a lot of abuse.
Most people on this forum want uni + good job.
When they come to pop their clogs I will guarantee that they will not be passing their estates on to aid the more needy.........
Personally I am far from wealthy, when I do inherit then I will be.
The fact that I do not have to work to this end is really rather good; the opportunity to simply enjoy life is thoroughly in ones best interest.
I daresay I will bestow the same "package" on my own children.
comes in for a lot of abuse.
Most people on this forum want uni + good job.
When they come to pop their clogs I will guarantee that they will not be passing their estates on to aid the more needy.........
Personally I am far from wealthy, when I do inherit then I will be.
The fact that I do not have to work to this end is really rather good; the opportunity to simply enjoy life is thoroughly in ones best interest.
I daresay I will bestow the same "package" on my own children.
Jealousy, though I guess it can be justified when a moron inherits a load (I can't remember who, but one of the royals who is also on of the richest in the UK)
Mrm.
inherited wealth.
comes in for a lot of abuse.
Most people on this forum want uni + good job.
When they come to pop their clogs I will guarantee that they will not be passing their estates on to aid the more needy.........
Personally I am far from wealthy, when I do inherit then I will be.
The fact that I do not have to work to this end is really rather good; the opportunity to simply enjoy life is thoroughly in ones best interest.
I daresay I will bestow the same "package" on my own children.
comes in for a lot of abuse.
Most people on this forum want uni + good job.
When they come to pop their clogs I will guarantee that they will not be passing their estates on to aid the more needy.........
Personally I am far from wealthy, when I do inherit then I will be.
The fact that I do not have to work to this end is really rather good; the opportunity to simply enjoy life is thoroughly in ones best interest.
I daresay I will bestow the same "package" on my own children.
Hear, hear.
Having that position is probably enviable to most. My passion is for business, and as such I've made it my life's mission to build it from the ground up, to make a point to my father more than anything, but that's just me.
My brother is the opposite, and is happy with his lot. Each to their own I guess. I think if my background was different, I'd still admire the wealthy for their achievements, because it is what I aspire to achieve.
I also feel I should point out my differing views on wealth. I will only feel wealthy when I have built my own wealth. That is my measure of success in my life. Others measure their success by differing means, how many orphans they save in Africa, for example. But if business revs your engine, then self-made wealth is the measure of success. But as you mentioned, I feel there will be a similar option lined up for my kids, just in case they don't have the same goals that I do...
Jealousy.
I know some really nice rich people who will buy you a drink just because it makes sense, not to lord it over you or show off, and they're so much nicer than a lot of 'poor' people I know.
I think people like Fred Goodwin, and this guy don't really help the cause though.
I know some really nice rich people who will buy you a drink just because it makes sense, not to lord it over you or show off, and they're so much nicer than a lot of 'poor' people I know.
I think people like Fred Goodwin, and this guy don't really help the cause though.
Related discussions
- Why is Man City hated so much?
- why do people hate Taylor Swift
- Education
- Is UCL full of rich kids?
- St dominics, henrietta barnett, RMS, parmiters or girls grammar??
- Going to university as a poor student, worried about social exclusion?
- Does this still go on at Exeter University
- The Education system more like the biggest scam
- How do I deal with my horrid parents?
- Is earning 25k a year considered poor?
- I'm missing out on sm
- UNIQ 2019 medicine
- What do you think is disgusting that everyone else seems to like?
- A-level French Study Group 2022-2023
- My mom wants to life my life for me
- Why is it bad manners to tell ppl you want to be rich ?
- Explore how dickens presents the suffering of the poor
- White people culture s brown people culture
- Aussie police uninvited from Mardi Gras after double homicide
- I'm planning to steal Christmas....AMA!
Latest
Trending
Last reply 1 day ago
Why is the political left now censorious and authoritarian??Last reply 1 day ago
Is it true that British unis are prejudiced towards degrees from Scottish unis?Last reply 1 day ago
If the Russell Group was now a fair representation of what it still claims to beLast reply 1 week ago
TSR Goes Green: How important will the environment be in this year's election?Last reply 2 weeks ago
Research Rankings of universities if you add Research Quality & Intensity percentagesLast reply 1 month ago
Is University of Birmingham prestigious and respected well enough in UK ?Trending
Last reply 1 day ago
Why is the political left now censorious and authoritarian??Last reply 1 day ago
Is it true that British unis are prejudiced towards degrees from Scottish unis?Last reply 1 day ago
If the Russell Group was now a fair representation of what it still claims to beLast reply 1 week ago
TSR Goes Green: How important will the environment be in this year's election?Last reply 2 weeks ago
Research Rankings of universities if you add Research Quality & Intensity percentagesLast reply 1 month ago
Is University of Birmingham prestigious and respected well enough in UK ?
