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I couldn't give less of a **** about league tables or uni rep
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I chose to go to ARU over LSE, because I did a completely different course in the end and (like you) uni reputation doesn't matter in optometry.
I think you're being a bit judgemental and stereotypical, though.
I think you're being a bit judgemental and stereotypical, though.
thegenius31416
(there will be people much better at interview than you at better universities - have fun competing with them). Remember, you are spending a lot of money on your university education so you would want to get the best out of it.
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What are you saying here, that people who go to a better university are better at interviews, or were you making the point on the grounds that the two are not mutually exclusive?
It's all very well to say "I go to a better uni, I have a better chance at getting a job", but the employer's decision-making isn't so simple. Getting a job isn't as black and white as many people here would believe. Very few of you (if any) are employers, so you haven't really got a clue on what different employer's selection criteria consists of. You could say "he has a journalism degree, I have an english lit, I've got the better chance at the job, my uni's ranked 10 places higher than his, the job is mine", but you're factoring in absolutely no other circumstances that could determine the person with the journalism degree is the one to get the job.
Umbrella.Girl
I'm going to apply for the University of Northampton
Why?
Because I have a good job here, I have friends here, I know the place like the back of my hand and I have family here.
What would be the point in losing all of that just so I can say that I went to a university that the Times approved of?
I'm going to apply for the University of Northampton
Why?
Because I have a good job here, I have friends here, I know the place like the back of my hand and I have family here.
What would be the point in losing all of that just so I can say that I went to a university that the Times approved of?
To get a better education..?
I dont get it when people start talking about their friends and family and stuff. Are you never planning on leaving the area? I know that I cant wait to go up and live in Durham, yeah ill be leaving my friends but theyre all going to different unis anyway (which arent in Birmingham). My family yeah, ill come back every so often and visit them like most people at uni do, plus theyre happy for me to go and get a world class education, in fact theyre proud of me and want me to go.
SamCrossMan
Depends largely on the profession you want to follow.
Try getting a job in IB with a 2:1 in Economics from Bangor. It won't happen. A 2:1 in Econ from Warwick/UCL/Oxford though? It'll give you a chance.
Try getting a job in IB with a 2:1 in Economics from Bangor. It won't happen. A 2:1 in Econ from Warwick/UCL/Oxford though? It'll give you a chance.
oh no why? what is wrong with Bangor?
Also, I would've thought that nowadays employers are looking for EXPERIENCE not the university you went to. I would have said it matters relatively little for a lot of professions.
Whatever floats your boat I guess.
You can still have a great time at a red brick.
You can still have a great time at a red brick.
d0mz
Is this just me?
I'm going to Liverpool John Moores, which, for all you cynical league-table followers, isn't the greatest of universities. But I couldnt care less, if I'm brutally honest.
I'd much rather go to a worse uni have a a better social life, because the people who I'm going to be going to uni with, will have, on the whole, experienced more, partied more, and be more social, but still be interested in getting an education and a degree. (assumption based upon their not-so-great A Level results). Also, because of the nature of the course that I'm studying, the universities reputation really doesn't particularly bother me either. I'm studying International Journalism, which is aimed to make me employable in an international environment, and for this line of work, its more about you're individual written abilities and passed experience. I want to travel and write in not-so-fortunate countries, where the reputation of a university doesn't matter at all.
I see no benefit to working my arse off at A-Level to go to a redbrick university to work my arse off and not enjoy my time being young to get a degree that isn't guarnteed an outcome at the end in the form of a job, especially in this economic climate.
EDIT: I'm also extremely confident in my abilities when it comes to apply for jobs and I'm really good in interview. I know that I could probably beat the majority of graduate job applicants in interview stage because of my mix of being a well-rounded social person, and the degree helps too.
Is there anyone else out there who couldnt give less of a **** about league-tables or university reputation?
I'm going to Liverpool John Moores, which, for all you cynical league-table followers, isn't the greatest of universities. But I couldnt care less, if I'm brutally honest.
I'd much rather go to a worse uni have a a better social life, because the people who I'm going to be going to uni with, will have, on the whole, experienced more, partied more, and be more social, but still be interested in getting an education and a degree. (assumption based upon their not-so-great A Level results). Also, because of the nature of the course that I'm studying, the universities reputation really doesn't particularly bother me either. I'm studying International Journalism, which is aimed to make me employable in an international environment, and for this line of work, its more about you're individual written abilities and passed experience. I want to travel and write in not-so-fortunate countries, where the reputation of a university doesn't matter at all.
I see no benefit to working my arse off at A-Level to go to a redbrick university to work my arse off and not enjoy my time being young to get a degree that isn't guarnteed an outcome at the end in the form of a job, especially in this economic climate.
EDIT: I'm also extremely confident in my abilities when it comes to apply for jobs and I'm really good in interview. I know that I could probably beat the majority of graduate job applicants in interview stage because of my mix of being a well-rounded social person, and the degree helps too.
Is there anyone else out there who couldnt give less of a **** about league-tables or university reputation?
I wouldn't say no to a university I love because of league tables, and I didnt pay much attention to the actual tables.
EG I visited Leicester and didn't really like it, and that ranks pretty high.
But you seem really anti-higher ranking... it's not a fair assumption that everyone at higher universities has a worse social life. Very un fair in fact. Pretty much every uni will have people on all 'sides' of social interaction, liking different things, and socialising to different levels.
Also, I think that better reputation is a benefit- it's not what I'd make my choice on, but it's a nice benefit. Of course, people can acheive from everywhere, those without a degree at all, from ex-polys, from red-bricks, from oxbridge, from the OU, wherever.
I go to a **** uni, I'm intelligent, and I love my life now. 
I'm going to have a fun future and I love the Manchester social scene even if I don't go to the 'proper' university. Agree with OP to an extent.
I'm going to have a fun future and I love the Manchester social scene even if I don't go to the 'proper' university. Agree with OP to an extent.Wolfos
What are you saying here, that people who go to a better university are better at interviews, or were you making the point on the grounds that the two are not mutually exclusive?
I am saying that OP will be disadvantaged against people who are as 'good' as OP at interviews, but go to reputable universities (and also, who have worked hard enough to get a 1st rather than spending the entire time partying and avoiding hard work)
THRASHx
To get a better education..?
I dont get it when people start talking about their friends and family and stuff. Are you never planning on leaving the area? I know that I cant wait to go up and live in Durham, yeah ill be leaving my friends but theyre all going to different unis anyway (which arent in Birmingham). My family yeah, ill come back every so often and visit them like most people at uni do, plus theyre happy for me to go and get a world class education, in fact theyre proud of me and want me to go.
I dont get it when people start talking about their friends and family and stuff. Are you never planning on leaving the area? I know that I cant wait to go up and live in Durham, yeah ill be leaving my friends but theyre all going to different unis anyway (which arent in Birmingham). My family yeah, ill come back every so often and visit them like most people at uni do, plus theyre happy for me to go and get a world class education, in fact theyre proud of me and want me to go.
Yah, but in my current situation it requires me to keep in constant contact with my family in order to check that they're okay.
But also in the field that I want to work in I don't really need to move town.
Oh, and to answer your question, it isn't really a matter of education, but more to do with talent as i'd want to be doing an arts based degree anyway.
thegenius31416
I am saying that OP will be disadvantaged against people who are as 'good' as OP at interviews, but go to reputable universities (and also, who have worked hard enough to get a 1st rather than spending the entire time partying and avoiding hard work)
What if the OP gets a 1st in his subject as well by studing hard as well? The people who go to the more 'reputable' universities might feel in a more comfortable position, but I'd recommend that they don't get too ahead of themselves.
thegenius31416
I am saying that OP will be disadvantaged against people who are as 'good' as OP at interviews, but go to reputable universities (and also, who have worked hard enough to get a 1st rather than spending the entire time partying and avoiding hard work)
I agree with the bolded, and would also add in 'got some relevant work experience/done some voluntary work to bolster their CV', but the rest of your post(s) are utter *****.
It feels good to realise that at least someone cares about getting a higher education at a university - redbrick, Russell Group, or not. Any university student has to pay up to £3,000 tuition fees a year to revel in the academic experience and the social life at university. They do not have to, but choose to do so because it will benefit them in the long run. A uni student of any kind is more likely to be employed than a NEET who does nothing to improve themselves and try to raise their graduate prospects.
Any university will certainly help the student to succeed in life. If someone is passionate about studying a course at a particular university, and work hard during their course, it will prove an advantage to their employment prospects. At least d0mz is ambitious at aiming for higher education, instead of wasting his days being lazy and not bothering to think about the future.
Any university will certainly help the student to succeed in life. If someone is passionate about studying a course at a particular university, and work hard during their course, it will prove an advantage to their employment prospects. At least d0mz is ambitious at aiming for higher education, instead of wasting his days being lazy and not bothering to think about the future.
d0mz
Is this just me?
I'm going to Liverpool John Moores, which, for all you cynical league-table followers, isn't the greatest of universities. But I couldnt care less, if I'm brutally honest.
I'd much rather go to a worse uni have a a better social life, because the people who I'm going to be going to uni with, will have, on the whole, experienced more, partied more, and be more social, but still be interested in getting an education and a degree. (assumption based upon their not-so-great A Level results). Also, because of the nature of the course that I'm studying, the universities reputation really doesn't particularly bother me either. I'm studying International Journalism, which is aimed to make me employable in an international environment, and for this line of work, its more about your** individual written abilities and passed experience. I want to travel and write in not-so-fortunate countries, where the reputation of a university doesn't matter at all.
I see no benefit to working my arse off at A-Level to go to a redbrick university to work my arse off and not enjoy my time being young to get a degree that isn't guarnteed an outcome at the end in the form of a job, especially in this economic climate.
EDIT: I'm also extremely confident in my abilities when it comes to apply for jobs and I'm really good in interview. I know that I could probably beat the majority of graduate job applicants in interview stage because of my mix of being a well-rounded social person, and the degree helps too.
Is there anyone else out there who couldnt give less of a **** about league-tables or university reputation?
I'm going to Liverpool John Moores, which, for all you cynical league-table followers, isn't the greatest of universities. But I couldnt care less, if I'm brutally honest.
I'd much rather go to a worse uni have a a better social life, because the people who I'm going to be going to uni with, will have, on the whole, experienced more, partied more, and be more social, but still be interested in getting an education and a degree. (assumption based upon their not-so-great A Level results). Also, because of the nature of the course that I'm studying, the universities reputation really doesn't particularly bother me either. I'm studying International Journalism, which is aimed to make me employable in an international environment, and for this line of work, its more about your** individual written abilities and passed experience. I want to travel and write in not-so-fortunate countries, where the reputation of a university doesn't matter at all.
I see no benefit to working my arse off at A-Level to go to a redbrick university to work my arse off and not enjoy my time being young to get a degree that isn't guarnteed an outcome at the end in the form of a job, especially in this economic climate.
EDIT: I'm also extremely confident in my abilities when it comes to apply for jobs and I'm really good in interview. I know that I could probably beat the majority of graduate job applicants in interview stage because of my mix of being a well-rounded social person, and the degree helps too.
Is there anyone else out there who couldnt give less of a **** about league-tables or university reputation?
No one cares about league table, but Uni Reputation does matter.
I didn't quite word what I meant as well as I would have liked to.
And reading it back, I didnt ever assume that people who go to good universities have a '**** social life'. But people who go to the not-so-good universities generally have less lectures and less work - they dont need to prove themselves as much to be there. Thus, having more time to socialize and more time to go out and not not have to wake up for anything in the mornings, and thus it being MORE social. Thats a fact.
Too many people here get too strung up on going to 'good' universities that they forget that life is for living and experiencing. Want a degree? Get a degree, but is it really worth all the heartache of working THAT hard to get into the Oxford's and Cambridge's of this world?
And reading it back, I didnt ever assume that people who go to good universities have a '**** social life'. But people who go to the not-so-good universities generally have less lectures and less work - they dont need to prove themselves as much to be there. Thus, having more time to socialize and more time to go out and not not have to wake up for anything in the mornings, and thus it being MORE social. Thats a fact.
Too many people here get too strung up on going to 'good' universities that they forget that life is for living and experiencing. Want a degree? Get a degree, but is it really worth all the heartache of working THAT hard to get into the Oxford's and Cambridge's of this world?
Wolfos
What if the OP gets a 1st in his subject as well by studing hard as well? The people who go to the more 'reputable' universities might feel in a more comfortable position, but I'd recommend that they don't get too ahead of themselves.
I am assuming he won't be studying hard as, from his first post, it seems to me he doesn't value hard work.
d0mz
I see no benefit to working my arse off at A-Level to go to a redbrick university to work my arse off and not enjoy my time being young to get a degree.
I see no benefit to working my arse off at A-Level to go to a redbrick university to work my arse off and not enjoy my time being young to get a degree.
He doesnt seem to understand that he will have to work his arse off anywhere to get a 1st.
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