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  1. Hopple's Avatar
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    Re: Sherlock (BBC TV series)
    (Original post by Amwazicles)
    Hmm, perhaps. To be honest, I don't go in for super-realism in TV anyway. I mean, it's good to know it's been thought about, but I'd choose a satisfying plot development over a perfectly realistic one any day.
    Yeah, I'm not too fussed. After all, I watched Crank 2 after seeing the end of the first film XD They'll probably have a better explanation for the fall since they already had series 3 commissioned, whereas they didn't know if there'd be a second at the end of the first series, though I doubt they'll be able to cover everything without some people going :unimpressed:


    (Original post by Bobifier)
    Maybe people find it harder to make considered decisions when deciding under pressure of gunfire whether to blow up everyone in the vicinity, certainly yourself, possibly your enemy.
    Who, Sherlock? It's still a maybe though, hardly the most reasonable action to take
    Last edited by Hopple; 18-01-2012 at 02:52.
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    Re: Sherlock (BBC TV series)
    I think that the cyclist bashing into him (watson) had something to do with it and he got the girl to help with the rest.
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    Re: Sherlock (BBC TV series)
    I rewatched the episode last night and what I still don't get is the whole thing with Sherlock saying that he doesn't have to jump if he has moriarty to call off the killers. Why did he do that if he knew he had to jump, as he already had his plan prepared?
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    Re: Sherlock (BBC TV series)
    (Original post by sheep_go_baa)
    This may have already been posted since this thread moves faster than Sherlock's trail of thought, but there are some interesting ideas on this site, many of which have been suggested in this thread:

    http://channelhopping.onthebox.com/2...reat-theories/
    Good link :yy:

    I quite liked one of the user's comment......

    "1) The important thing with anything of this nature is to not assume that the time frame presented is the actual time frame of how things happened!

    2) Wondering a lot about whether Moriarty’s body is still on the roof of St Barts.

    3) Didn’t like the fact that the writers never let the audience catch up with Sherlock in this episode. We don’t know lots of things about what he was thinking and doing in this episode. Audience knowledge often goes out of sync with the characters in thrillers/crime stories but has to come back at some point or what’s the point?"

    :awesome:
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    Re: Sherlock (BBC TV series)
    (Original post by olive325)
    I rewatched the episode last night and what I still don't get is the whole thing with Sherlock saying that he doesn't have to jump if he has moriarty to call off the killers. Why did he do that if he knew he had to jump, as he already had his plan prepared?
    I thought that that might have been to make Moriarty kill himself.
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    Re: Sherlock (BBC TV series)
    (Original post by Jace Falco)
    I thought that that might have been to make Moriarty kill himself.
    yeah but Sherlock looked so shocked when it actually happened - surely he wouldn't be if he was expecting it!
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    Re: Sherlock (BBC TV series)
    Explaining ending of series 2?

    + spoilers

    might be interesting for someone, if it hasnt been posted already, just sums up much of what you clever Sherlock people have been saying already ;D
    Last edited by Tommyjw; 18-01-2012 at 09:37.
  8. Jace Falco's Avatar
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    (Original post by trouble-trouble)
    yeah but Sherlock looked so shocked when it actually happened - surely he wouldn't be if he was expecting it!
    Or maybe he was just trying to avoid the risk of jumping; beat Moriarty again.
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    Re: Sherlock (BBC TV series)
    (Original post by boromir9111)
    Good link :yy:

    I quite liked one of the user's comment......

    "1) The important thing with anything of this nature is to not assume that the time frame presented is the actual time frame of how things happened!

    2) Wondering a lot about whether Moriarty’s body is still on the roof of St Barts.

    3) Didn’t like the fact that the writers never let the audience catch up with Sherlock in this episode. We don’t know lots of things about what he was thinking and doing in this episode. Audience knowledge often goes out of sync with the characters in thrillers/crime stories but has to come back at some point or what’s the point?"

    :awesome:
    The time frame comment is quite interesting actually! Although thinking about it is boggling my mind even more hahaa
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    Re: Sherlock (BBC TV series)
    (Original post by olive325)
    I rewatched the episode last night and what I still don't get is the whole thing with Sherlock saying that he doesn't have to jump if he has moriarty to call off the killers. Why did he do that if he knew he had to jump, as he already had his plan prepared?
    I don't think he truly wanted to "die", even though he had this plan set out. As his death now means he (at this moment in time) cannot contact Watson or Mrs Hudson. Moriarty didn't really give him a choice, either way and neither has his plan, I mean he succeeded in not dying but he has still lost Watson, MrsHudson, even Lestrade and this is what he didnt want, so in fact maybe he didn't want to carry out his plan, it was just a back-up.


    I guess this would make Sherlock too ordinary :rolleyes: but its what makes sense to me
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    Re: Sherlock (BBC TV series)
    (Original post by carnationlilyrose)
    You are my spiritual son.
    Unsure whether to be honoured or severely creeped out..!
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    Re: Sherlock (BBC TV series)
    (Original post by sheep_go_baa)
    The time frame comment is quite interesting actually! Although thinking about it is boggling my mind even more hahaa
    Agreed. Something very simple overlooked by most i would imagine, including me :p:
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    Re: Sherlock (BBC TV series)
    I wonder if the use of The Thieving Magpie and the slowed-down shot of the glass smashing were intentional Clockwork Orange references? I know obviously the song fits great anyway, and slow-motion glash smashes are truly a thing of beauty regardless, but...idk just wondered if it was supposed to function as a tiny homage too. As they're both iconic psychopaths and that.
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    I missed the complete first series and episode 1 of the second series, it didn't look to bad from what I did watch but eh.. im not gonna lose sleep over what I didn't watch.
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    Re: Sherlock (BBC TV series)
    (Original post by Dastrea)
    I missed the complete first series and episode 1 of the second series, it didn't look to bad from what I did watch but eh.. im not gonna lose sleep over what I didn't watch.
    If you want, i can email you a website that has all of the episodes if you don't mind streaming?
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    Re: Sherlock (BBC TV series)
    (Original post by boromir9111)
    If you want, i can email you a website that has all of the episodes if you don't mind streaming?
    I can't say I do, if it wouldn't be much trouble for you, a link would be nice

    ^ thanks ^
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    Re: Sherlock (BBC TV series)
    (Original post by Dastrea)
    I can't say I do, if it wouldn't be much trouble for you, a link would be nice

    ^ thanks ^
    No problem. Enjoy it :rock:
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    Re: Sherlock (BBC TV series)
    (Original post by Bobifier)
    From that height, it would be reasonably easy to make up the distance, to the extent that overshooting might well be a worry. Also, if the bags were prepared to be full of some soft material like crash mats then the fall would be safe as long as you landed properly. All in all, it's not entirely implausible.
    ^
    i don't think that's possible. you can't really fall diagonally unless you launch yourself at an incredible speed and sherlock obviously didn't do that; he literally held out his arms and fell forwards. and there's no way you could pack crash mats that could cushion his fall into a rubbish truck like that without being obvious; have you seen stunt mats for falls? they're huge, quite literally the size of a bus. you might be thinking of the small ones actors use when they trip over/jump backwards/are thrown against the floor. those wouldn't cushion a fall from that height.

    honestly i think the point of the truck was a lot simpler than we think; my theory is that it was just there to block john and/or the sniper's view so that any body switching/whatever could happen.
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    Re: Sherlock (BBC TV series)
    Hmm, I think Molly has something to do with this. I don't see why Sherlock would see her unless he needed her help, considering she works in a morgue, it would be possible for her to get a body that resembles Sherlock and dress him up as him. And Moriarty got to the roof first then Sherlock, so she may have been waiting at the stairs maybe? And then drag a dead body up and throw him off the roof.
    John sort of got ran over by a cycler so his vision was all weird so he couldn't tell the difference.
    But then I'm sure the sniper would notice Molly throwing a body over
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    Re: Sherlock (BBC TV series)
    (Original post by boromir9111)
    No problem. Enjoy it :rock:
    Do you think you could send me this link? I've forgotten what happened last series.
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