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  1. Birchington's Avatar
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    Re: Sherlock (BBC TV series)
    I can't believe someone wants to make an American Sherlock. It will be rubbish.
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    You'll get used to it

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    Never type 'Mystrade' or 'Mycroft's sex umbrella' into Google :shh:
    don't tempt me
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    I think it's ridiculous that the Sherlock fandom has to wait so damn long.
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    (Original post by Birchington)
    I can't believe someone wants to make an American Sherlock. It will be rubbish.
    I'm a bit mixed about that. Like Moffat has said, every version of Sherlock is an adaptation, so they're well within their rights to make a modern version - it's not like it hasn't been done before. It's only a problem if they blatantly copy things which are unique to the BBC version. The thing that annoys me the most is the female Watson, really. Presumably (and I of course look forward to being proved wrong) most of the series will revolve around some kind of 'will they, won't they?', in which they inevitably will by the end. The best part about Sherlock is that it's ALL about the cases, and they haven't felt the need to include the obligatory romance storyline (which seems to be impossible to avoid in most films/series these days, however out of place).
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    I'm a bit mixed about that. Like Moffat has said, every version of Sherlock is an adaptation, so they're well within their rights to make a modern version - it's not like it hasn't been done before. It's only a problem if they blatantly copy things which are unique to the BBC version. The thing that annoys me the most is the female Watson, really. Presumably (and I of course look forward to being proved wrong) most of the series will revolve around some kind of 'will they, won't they?', in which they inevitably will by the end. The best part about Sherlock is that it's ALL about the cases, and they haven't felt the need to include the obligatory romance storyline (which seems to be impossible to avoid in most films/series these days, however out of place).
    I dunno, I always think the stories/sherlock has revolved around 'will they, won't they?', and according to fanfic, they definitely do:p:
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    (Original post by Birchington)
    I can't believe someone wants to make an American Sherlock. It will be rubbish.
    I feel it's too early to be able to judge it just yet: we hardly know anything about it. There have been so many absolute turkeys of Sherlock Holmes adaptations that I think Elementary will end up being somewhat good in comparison. Not to say I don't disagree with the drastic changes they're making to Watson, but Sherlock made some big changes to the original Holmes stories as well.

    One thing I don't get about the whole 'sullying the brand' argument Moffat pulled out of thin air the other week is how he could think the failure of success of a completely unrelated series in another country could stop people watching a previous one. People didn't suddenly flip tables at Sherlock because it came after Robert Downey Jr.'s film version, and people didn't decide to burn the film version after enjoying Sherlock. I feel that 'the brand' refers more to Moffat's pride than anything else.
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    Well, Moffat thinks that the American version of Coupling ruined the reputation of his show, so he's got a history, I guess.

    And Lucy Liu is Watson. I'm not holding out hope, despite Jonny Lee Miller being Sherlock.
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    I've never watched either version of Coupling, so I can't comment on that. But am I right in that Moffat was heavily involved in the U.S. Coupling, and was therefore to an extent responsible for it?

    But I'm willing to see how it turns out despite the whole Lucy Liu thing. I'm not going to write it off now as a failure, even though it's likely to flop -- more than likely due to the boycott by the large Sherlock fan population in the U.S. rather than by how good it really is. I know America tends to take a lot of good programmes and produce watered-down Americanised versions that are considered inferior to the original British version, but some of the remakes have achieved success.
    Last edited by Caerthakatha; 24-03-2012 at 14:03.
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    I dunno, I always think the stories/sherlock has revolved around 'will they, won't they?', and according to fanfic, they definitely do:p:
    Oh dear. I don't think it's a genuine possibility though in the actual stories/series, more of a funny thing to be hinted at. And I was ignoring the obvious exception of fanfiction.
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    I seriously doubt anyone actually believes sherlock will get with watson in the end. I feel the stories revolve more around the cases and sherlocks character, by hinting that they might be gay moffat is just poking fun and feeding the fandom.
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    I seriously doubt anyone actually believes sherlock will get with watson in the end. I feel the stories revolve more around the cases and sherlocks character, by hinting that they might be gay moffat is just poking fun and feeding the fandom.
    I actually feel that a lot of fans would actually dislike it if they were to get together: I for one feel it would be completely out of character for Sherlock. I enjoy the tension and Sherlock's aloofness, and I don't think overt romance should be in it. The whole joke is that everybody thinks they are, and they're not going to want to lose that running joke from the series anyway.
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    I actually feel that a lot of fans would actually dislike it if they were to get together: I for one feel it would be completely out of character for Sherlock. I enjoy the tension and Sherlock's aloofness, and I don't think overt romance should be in it. The whole joke is that everybody thinks they are, and they're not going to want to lose that running joke from the series anyway.
    I'm with you there. There's nothing wrong with having fun and imagining what it would be like if they did get together, but the writers would never do something so out of character - not to mention the fact that it absolutely doesn't happen in the original stories. It would ruin the show if they did it (but the actual risk of that happening is basically zero). It's quite refreshing to have a partnership that is close and not romantic, because that doesn't seem to happen that often. Plus it would detract from the point of the stories - ie the cases themselves, if there was some side-plot of romance.
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    lol perhaps 'Elementary' would fill in the absurd void BBC Sherlock left us all while they work on Series 3. At least we wouldn't be completely wasting away. It's like amusing ourselves with the snake thing while waiting for a youtube video to load.
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    (Original post by Caerthakatha)
    I actually feel that a lot of fans would actually dislike it if they were to get together: I for one feel it would be completely out of character for Sherlock. I enjoy the tension and Sherlock's aloofness, and I don't think overt romance should be in it. The whole joke is that everybody thinks they are, and they're not going to want to lose that running joke from the series anyway.


    This. Even though a bunch of people think it would be cool, I'm really hoping the writers don't go in that direction. It would piss off a lot of fans and would probably end up ruining the whole show. I like reading fanfics, but I'd be really upset if John and Sherlock actually became a couple on the show
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    2014?

    The BBC needs to pull some strings, this is one of the best shows its ever created and no one wants to wait 2 years for 3 episodes.

    Either 3 episodes a year or 7 every 2 years please. :drool:

    Creating Sherlock to the high quality we are used to must take an age but ffs I cant wait
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    2014?

    The BBC needs to pull some strings, this is one of the best shows its ever created and no one wants to wait 2 years for 3 episodes.

    Either 3 episodes a year or 7 every 2 years please. :drool:

    Creating Sherlock to the high quality we are used to must take an age but ffs I cant wait
    To be fair, it's probably more to do with the main characters, both Cumberbatch and Freeman are becoming big actors. Freeman especially, and they have to work around their other projects.
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    (Original post by Caerthakatha)
    I actually feel that a lot of fans would actually dislike it if they were to get together: I for one feel it would be completely out of character for Sherlock. I enjoy the tension and Sherlock's aloofness, and I don't think overt romance should be in it. The whole joke is that everybody thinks they are, and they're not going to want to lose that running joke from the series anyway.
    exactly. the moment sherlock gets together with someone the tension, the fun and the excitement will be gone. that's why i think this stuff is best left for fanfic.
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    bump :eek:

    something to keep you going until the next one:
    http://www.youtube.com/user/MsSherLocked

    has anyone ordered the dvd?
    Last edited by MrHappy_J; 26-03-2012 at 20:13.
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    Yep. Fanfiction writers would run out of things to write about if they couldn't write highly speculative porn romance fics.

    MrHappy_J: Ooh. I'm going to be on there all night. And yeah, I've got the DVD on its way from Amazon any time soon. Although it's been a fortnight and they haven't even sodding sent it yet.
    Last edited by Caerthakatha; 26-03-2012 at 20:40.
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    bump :eek:

    something to keep you going until the next one:
    http://www.youtube.com/user/MsSherLocked

    has anyone ordered the dvd?
    Is it just a channel of clips and stuff?

    I got the double box set for my birthday a couple of weeks ago :gah:
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    Is it just a channel of clips and stuff?

    I got the double box set for my birthday a couple of weeks ago :gah:
    yeah its someones youtube channel, shes posted loads of sherlock clips. im ashamed of how many "views" are actually mine lol.

    im waiting for mine. i got an amazon gift voucher for my birthday lol.
    when was your b'day? mine was this month too.
    Last edited by MrHappy_J; 27-03-2012 at 16:27.
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