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Exploitation of Western Girls, True or False?

If a woman covers herself properly to save herself from the lustful gazes of men, she is oppressed. But if she wears next to nothing, and is degraded to the level of a commercial product where beauty, fashion and diet industries exploit her, she is free.

Western girls are exploited by these industries through lies, deceits and ruthless advertising (read propaganda). Beauty products have to be sold. Someone has to be targeted. Dieting products have to be sold. Someone has to be targeted. Clothes have to be sold, in the name of fashion. Someone has to be targeted. Ever wondered why women’s fashion is constantly changing. How will industries make money if the “latest in fashion” doesn’t change frequently.

Girls are made to believe that the human body is nothing to be ashamed of. I wonder why people wear clothes to the office if the human body is nothing to be ashamed of. Someone said, kam kapde, kam paise. Just take a look at the price tags of girls’ clothing, and you will find that skimpy clothing is just as expensive as regular clothing.

What about the obsession with plastic surgery. Billions of dollars are spent on it annually. What is alarming is that even beautiful, young girls are going for it. The message that is sent to them is that natural beauty is not enough. There are girls unnecessarily lining up for breast implants, whose occasional leakage leaves some of them with far greater beauty defects. Women are going for everything, from nose jobs to liposuction, and no one raises an eyebrow.

Teenage pregnancies is also a big issue in the west. It is not rampant in the subcontinent because girls in the subcontinent are oppressed. It is western girls who have the freedom to become pregnant while still teenagers. They are called names, taunted by their friends, have to miss school, suffer from a poor self-image, and a list of other problems that accompany teenage pregnancies.

Western girls believe in constant dieting, which is accompanied by depression, bulimia, anorexia and all the disorders that go along with having a low self-esteem because they cannot have the perfect body. So why do perfectly normal girls go on a diet? They go on a diet because dieting industries have changed the definition of normal. Unless a girl is all skin and bone she is ugly, fat and unattractive. They advertise ruthlessly, targeting innocent girls into believing their satanic schemes, wanting to earn money in any way or form.

Western girls are slaves of fashion, used like puppets by industries, turned into sexual objects, brainwashed with false ideas about beauty, exposed by men and used as a commodity, diet themselves to death, and then people talk about how free they are.


Exploitation of Western Girls, True or False?
By Mohammad Yusha

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Reply 1
women is islam have to wear a tent and are chained to the kitchen/bedroom.

who is more free?
Reply 2
Square
women is islam have to wear a tent and are chained to the kitchen/bedroom.

who is more free?


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Square
women is islam have to wear a tent and are chained to the kitchen/bedroom.

who is more free?


Not all Islamic women wear "a tent" and "are chained to the kitchen/bedroom". There are more liberal and conservative parts to Islam just like with Christianity. And if OP is saying that how can Western Girls be free when they no longer think for themselves, then I agree.
Reply 4
Jak_
Western girls are slaves of fashion, used like puppets by industries, turned into sexual objects, brainwashed with false ideas about beauty, exposed by men and used as a commodity, diet themselves to death, and then people talk about how free they are.


Only if they chose to be, there are plenty of girls who are not.

As Square not to eloquently put, in middle eastern culture women are traditionally kitchen slaves (and as posted the other day in India I believe it was a large number are set alight in their kitchen as they work because the man is unhappy), often just one of a man's multiple wives. Women are arranged into marriages they don't potentially want by their fathers.

And you have the audacity to say that women are used as a commodity in the west...
Jak_
If a woman covers herself properly to save herself from the lustful gazes of men, she is oppressed. But if she wears next to nothing, and is degraded to the level of a commercial product where beauty, fashion and diet industries exploit her, she is free.

Western girls are exploited by these industries through lies, deceits and ruthless advertising (read propaganda). Beauty products have to be sold. Someone has to be targeted. Dieting products have to be sold. Someone has to be targeted. Clothes have to be sold, in the name of fashion. Someone has to be targeted. Ever wondered why women’s fashion is constantly changing. How will industries make money if the “latest in fashion” doesn’t change frequently.

Girls are made to believe that the human body is nothing to be ashamed of. I wonder why people wear clothes to the office if the human body is nothing to be ashamed of. Someone said, kam kapde, kam paise. Just take a look at the price tags of girls’ clothing, and you will find that skimpy clothing is just as expensive as regular clothing.

What about the obsession with plastic surgery. Billions of dollars are spent on it annually. What is alarming is that even beautiful, young girls are going for it. The message that is sent to them is that natural beauty is not enough. There are girls unnecessarily lining up for breast implants, whose occasional leakage leaves some of them with far greater beauty defects. Women are going for everything, from nose jobs to liposuction, and no one raises an eyebrow.

Teenage pregnancies is also a big issue in the west. It is not rampant in the subcontinent because girls in the subcontinent are oppressed. It is western girls who have the freedom to become pregnant while still teenagers. They are called names, taunted by their friends, have to miss school, suffer from a poor self-image, and a list of other problems that accompany teenage pregnancies.

Western girls believe in constant dieting, which is accompanied by depression, bulimia, anorexia and all the disorders that go along with having a low self-esteem because they cannot have the perfect body. So why do perfectly normal girls go on a diet? They go on a diet because dieting industries have changed the definition of normal. Unless a girl is all skin and bone she is ugly, fat and unattractive. They advertise ruthlessly, targeting innocent girls into believing their satanic schemes, wanting to earn money in any way or form.

Western girls are slaves of fashion, used like puppets by industries, turned into sexual objects, brainwashed with false ideas about beauty, exposed by men and used as a commodity, diet themselves to death, and then people talk about how free they are.


Exploitation of Western Girls, True or False?
By Mohammad Yusha


A fair argument all round :biggrin:
On another note, a muslim woman came to my door the other day. I didn't open it, I just spoke to her through the letterbox.
See how she likes it.

Fight the power TSR community!
i dont have to wear a bag over my body and face to avoid being stoned to death, so false.
Women are exploited everywhere- but Western girls are exploited to a lesser degree, and often its their choice to bow to the fashion/diet/cosmetics industry. Women in developing countires are oppressed to a greater degree, and have far less choice in their life decisions. Its sad, but its true, and the fact that a girl in West is pressured into wearing make-up doesn't take make the fact that a girl can be jailed for being raped in some other country any less serious.
What a gross exaggeration :lol: Starting from "lustful gazes" and ending with everything else.

You do realise that beauty products don't only target women, and women have the choice of buying them, and a lot of women simply don't. Men buy them, men don't buy them, some do some don't, it has nothing to do with gender, or age; it's simply up to the person, and there really isn't any pressure.

Out of all the assumptions, though, the one about men's lustful gazes pisses me off to no end. The only reason men would be obsessed is because they'd be utterly alienated with the female gender and body as a result of the segregation and women's covered bodies. If they get used to women in "real life" then the shock of a woman's body will be much less strong than if women have always been some sort of alien race to them.

Your arguments are obviously based on exceptions much more than rules. If one out of x number of women in the west are indeed oppressed and objectified by western values, it begs the question why the rest aren't, and suggests that the values aren't a problem, but the ways they are used is. You know in the east the case is completely different, where close to all women are directly rather than indirectly oppressed.

There's no law saying a woman must buy all beauty products. There is a law saying that rape within marriage is fine. There is a law saying that women can't drive.

You must be joking.
Reply 9
I half agree with OP. The Daily Star is in fact a prime example of this. Its front cover shows the 'burka' and its opression by muslim men, and yet on the second page it shows a topless glamour model called candi from newcastle or whatever, talking about her planned boob job. It then glorifies female celebrities like jordan and kerri katona etc. I would say that both are forms of freedom whilst being opressive at the same time. Perhaps its shrodinger's cat principle at work after all!

The fact is for the most part, women can choose if they want to wear a burka or be a page 3 glamour girl. they can choose if they want to cover up or be more revealing. Its quite pedantic to suggest that either party is being forced to, especially as there are countless stories of women who choose the burka or the hijab, as well as countless women who choose to have a boob job or parade their goods in public.

but a similar arguement exists whereby some women may be pressured into wearing a burka by their husbands, parents or communities, whilst other women may feel it necessary by social convention to dress like a hooker/present themselves as a whore as it is 'sexy' by tabloid and trash magazine standards.

the amazement that both a burka'd woman and a topless model can be so similar yet different.
Western girls are exploited by everyone lol, the media, the government (be free - don't bring up your kids, send them to daycare and have a career and pay us more tax), fashion and the beauty industry etc...

Realistically Feminism and 'women's rights' where the worst things to happen to women and opened the door for a ridiculous amount of exploitation.
True, but the correct word would be "pressured" not "forced". Western women are not forced it's their personal choice, but they are pressured by society to the point that it makes them think that if they do not do this or use that, they will instantly become social outcasts.
Flying Cookie
What a gross exaggeration :lol: Starting from "lustful gazes" and ending with everything else.

You do realise that beauty products don't only target women, and women have the choice of buying them, and a lot of women simply don't. Men buy them, men don't buy them, some do some don't, it has nothing to do with gender, or age; it's simply up to the person, and there really isn't any pressure.

Out of all the assumptions, though, the one about men's lustful gazes pisses me off to no end. The only reason men would be obsessed is because they'd be utterly alienated with the female gender and body as a result of the segregation and women's covered bodies. If they get used to women in "real life" then the shock of a woman's body will be much less strong than if women have always been some sort of alien race to them.

Your arguments are obviously based on exceptions much more than rules. If one out of x number of women in the west are indeed oppressed and objectified by western values, it begs the question why the rest aren't, and suggests that the values aren't a problem, but the ways they are used is. You know in the east the case is completely different, where close to all women are directly rather than indirectly oppressed.

There's no law saying a woman must buy all beauty products. There is a law saying that rape within marriage is fine. There is a law saying that women can't drive.

You must be joking.


To the bit in bold, you must be joking. Oppression doesn't need to be legal to exist, you idiot. In many Eastern countries women can drive and aren't legally oppressed by law. Have you ever been to any Eastern countries and actually talked to the women there?
Reply 13
I think it's up to the individual to decide whether they are being exploited or not. If a woman wants to put loads of make up on and wear a low cut top, that's up to her. If another woman wants to cover up most of her body, that's up to her.

I'll admit there are problems with this aspect of western society. But being pressured into buying make up or having cosmetic surgery isn't as bad as being forced to hide away from the rest of society, as is the case in some places.
Dan1992
false :smile:

we have freer markets than other areas, therefore this stuff about fashion, makeup etc is BS as it is a product of demand and supply, i.e. women demand it so it get supplied.

we have better healthcare, education etc.

we are richer and have the best life-expectancies in the world- (and women live longer than men, commit less suicides, go on fewer rampages etc...)

the facts and the picture you portray do not add up, so the answer is simple, false.

edit: and lol at suggesting the free-market makes us less free than others


:lol: at suggesting it doesn't make us less free.
Reply 15
Square
women is islam have to wear a tent and are chained to the kitchen/bedroom.

who is more free?


You have my official stamp of awesomeness.
Reply 16
False.

/thread.
Flying Cookie
What a gross exaggeration :lol: Starting from "lustful gazes" and ending with everything else.

You do realise that beauty products don't only target women, and women have the choice of buying them, and a lot of women simply don't. Men buy them, men don't buy them, some do some don't, it has nothing to do with gender, or age; it's simply up to the person, and there really isn't any pressure.

Out of all the assumptions, though, the one about men's lustful gazes pisses me off to no end. The only reason men would be obsessed is because they'd be utterly alienated with the female gender and body as a result of the segregation and women's covered bodies. If they get used to women in "real life" then the shock of a woman's body will be much less strong than if women have always been some sort of alien race to them.

Your arguments are obviously based on exceptions much more than rules. If one out of x number of women in the west are indeed oppressed and objectified by western values, it begs the question why the rest aren't, and suggests that the values aren't a problem, but the ways they are used is. You know in the east the case is completely different, where close to all women are directly rather than indirectly oppressed.

There's no law saying a woman must buy all beauty products. There is a law saying that rape within marriage is fine. There is a law saying that women can't drive.

You must be joking.


As far as I know women in the Middle East can drive its only Saudi Arabia they aren't allowed.
You need to get your facts straight, you seem to know nothing about Islam or the Middle East
Reply 18
Square
women is islam have to wear a tent and are chained to the kitchen/bedroom.

who is more free?


sorry to say this but ***** like you really **** me off.....what a stupid sterotypical idea....how the fuk are they chained to the bedroom? that can happen to anyone man!!!!! baby P? he was abused and came from a white family...what about all the white families that abuse their kids? yeah some muslim women are forced etc but only a very small minority!!!!
your very ignorant and close minded to actually think that. you obviously dont get out much.
mushy786
yeah some muslim women are forced etc but only a very small minority!!!!.


In the UK, maybe. Worldwide, muslim women are horribly oppressed.

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