Hard-Line Islam Fills Void in Flooded Pakistan

Maybe. But it shows that Muhammid Im a Dinner Jacket has shown that he has no qualms about using nuclear weapons to attack his enemies. That is a worry. Especially when he IS trying to get such weapons.

All you people who are sitting on your computers in some place in europe not knowing the ground realities of things are quick to critisize the people...I am from Pakistan, i am here in Pakistan right now helping with the rescue efforts raising funds and money from people and you know what the people of this country and the so called terrorists are actually doing more then the west or the ****** government of Pakistan itself.
Most of the people you call Terrorists have no link with the taliban and Al-Qaeeda but India "accuses" them of having a relationship just like the west "accuses" the pakistani ISI of having a relationship.these "accused" terrorists are saving atleast one million lives at this time and that to me is not terrorism but altruism.

CHARSADDA, Pakistan — As public anger rises over the government’s slow and chaotic response to Pakistan’s worst flooding in 80 years, hard-line Islamic charities have stepped into the breach with a grass-roots efficiency that is earning them new support among Pakistan’s beleaguered masses.

In just two districts in this part of the northwest, three Islamic charities have provided shelter to thousands, collected tens of thousands in donations and served about 25,000 hot meals a day a since last Saturday — six full days before the government delivered cooked food.

“The West says we are terrorists and intolerant, but in time of need, we’re the ones serving the people,” said Maulana Yousaf Shah, the provincial leader of one of the groups, Jamiat-ulema-e-Islam.

Mian Adil, the vice chairman of another group, Falah-e-Insaniyat, said the aid he distributed at a center in one of the districts, Nowshera, came with a message attached — “not to trust the government” and its Western allies.

Falah-e-Insaniyat is the charity wing and the latest front for Lashkar-e-Taiba, the group behind the 2008 terrorist attacks in Mumbai, India.

Jamaat-ud-Dawa is the political arm of Lashkar, which the United Nations has listed as a terrorist group. Under pressure since the Mumbai attacks, Jamaat-ud-Dawa had lowered its profile. But now, at least one of its relief centers in Mianwali, in Punjab, boldly flies its trademark flag, displaying a black sword.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/07/world/asia/07pstan.html?_r=2&hp

What are your reactions to this? Do you believe that such help is much needed and demonstrates that these fundamentalist groups simply care about people in the area and that the lack of government help is proof that their cause is right?

Or do you think that such help is provided as part of a campaign to win the hearts of people in that area and foster mistrust of the Pakistan government and their allies?

You totally missed the point mate.

In months to come, people will remember that the hardliners were there for them, whilst the government wasn't.

So when the hardliners demand a coup, and want to establish a more militant government, who do you think that the people will support?!

Come on dude, keep up.

No, Iranians should just live with 60 Israeli nuclear weapons pointed at all their built-up areas and should never be in a position to keep Israel's free reign in the Middle East in check.

Answer me this, do you really think Iran would attack Israel? When Israel's armed forces would obliterate Iran a hundred times over? Israel's allies love to make Iran seem like a monster, but look at it's military capability in reality... even if it were to develop a nuclear weapon, in the time it takes Israel could multiply its own illegal arsenal a hundred times over.

Then let's look at which countries Iran has invaded in the last few centuries... hmm. How many cases of genocide and ethnic cleansing, war crimes and massacring is Iran seriously accused of?

Now ask those questions of Israel.

Which country do you find the bigger thread to peace?

(Obviously Iran OMGzzz 'I'm a dinner jacket' is developing a nuclear weapon what will we do?!?!!1111).

No one has asked this yet but what on Earth is a "hard-line" Islamic charity?

Falah-e-Insaniyat is the charity wing and the latest front for Lashkar-e-Taiba, the group behind the 2008 terrorist attacks in Mumbai, India.

Jamaat-ud-Dawa

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/07/world/asia/07pstan.html?_r=2&hp

No, Iranians should just live with 60 Israeli nuclear weapons pointed at all their built-up areas and should never be in a position to keep Israel's free reign in the Middle East in check.

Answer me this, do you really think Iran would attack Israel? When Israel's armed forces would obliterate Iran a hundred times over? Israel's allies love to make Iran seem like a monster, but look at it's military capability in reality... even if it were to develop a nuclear weapon, in the time it takes Israel could multiply its own illegal arsenal a hundred times over.

Then let's look at which countries Iran has invaded in the last few centuries... hmm. How many cases of genocide and ethnic cleansing, war crimes and massacring is Iran seriously accused of?

Now ask those questions of Israel.

Which country do you find the bigger thread to peace?

(Obviously Iran OMGzzz 'I'm a dinner jacket' is developing a nuclear weapon what will we do?!?!!1111).

No one has asked this yet but what on Earth is a "hard-line" Islamic charity?

And there is the point KiwiGuy has made.
Months, years down the line this will be remembered by the people of Pakistan. It is causing a greater divide between the people and the government.

Just because the terrorists in Pakistan have 'no links with Taliban and/or Al-quaeeda' does not mean that they are not terrorists.

The article states, and I quote:



Lashkar is a terrorist organisation.

I think the people will appreciate the Military help more that what a dozen volunteers are doing

also with a scale of this disaster you cant expect a 3rd world government to help everyone , its not like Volunteers are helping everyone there helping a few people

and People will not forget about The huge number of Suicide boms just because of some aid

Are you actually that short-sighted???

You do realise that this exactly proves the point that people on this thread have repeatedly made - these organisations have helped these people in the past, and this is the rewards that they reap.

Could you answer me this, it is a completely hypothetical situation but it would be interesting to know your opinion.
If, militarily, Iran was in the position of Israel, what would they be doing?

do you know what falah-e-insaniat means?

Good deeds for humanity

i dont think u guys are realizing how serious the situation is,its easy to sit in fnt of your computer and critisize them when but when u see those people up in front of you as i did you have to give credit to them and btw the biggest contributer is jamat-ud-dawa and its charity organizations dont just stick to the narrow minds of the editor and jamat ud dawa is "accused" of terrorism by India while it has won its appeal IN THE PAKISTANI SUPREME COURT against all terrorism charges.The CJP released him.

Newsnight said not long ago that the government aid is yet to arrive.

And you say that, but look at our effort against the Taliban, (DJkG.1 will tell you that they are noble freedom fighters no doubt) and we are trying to do the exact same thing as the Lashkar - e taiba, Win over hearts and minds with aid and help.

Huge number of suicide bombs? UN report says the Taliban are responsible for 75% of civilian deaths in afghan, yet some still support them.

Now, as you love to point out, Personally, im not really a fan of either the Palestinians or the Israeli's. I think that they brought their stupid little wars upon themselves, and they fully deserve what they get from each other.

Newsnight said not long ago that the government aid is yet to arrive.

And you say that, but look at our effort against the Taliban, (DJkG.1 will tell you that they are noble freedom fighters no doubt) and we are trying to do the exact same thing as the Lashkar - e taiba, Win over hearts and minds with aid and help.

Huge number of suicide bombs? UN report says the Taliban are responsible for 75% of civilian deaths in afghan, yet some still support them.

And are we not over there doing the same thing? We are also trying to win them over and we are also trying to help these victims.

It's a bit of a non-story really.

Typical response, when caught out about something, from somebody who knows nothing of the conflict but will never remain silent with his emphatic opinion, no matter how ill-thought.



Run out of arguments so you'll just resort to slanderous lies.

Bit pathetic no?

The Aid has arrived ive seen on the News maybe the rain have stopped it now

Thats Afganistan, not Pakistan

Afganistan is different

The Taliban have support in Afghanistan because there are seen as fighting Foreign Forces and NATO kills an equal number of civilians these factors do not exist in Pakistan