Why are left-wing British students so anti-British?

I don't think all left-wing people are idealists, as you seem to think, that's all. Just a tip - don't go jumping to conclusions if you're trying to make a point.

yes well this thread is about the extreme left wing anti nationalists..

Yes. Right wing ones generally aren't. At least I've not seen a single right wing person here say anything like that. Loads of lefties do though. It's generally because they're very, very PC and like to take offense for other people.

I admit I'm generalising but in my experience many libertarians are left wing and many left wingers do not have pride in our country.

It depends on what type of left-wing students you are talking about. Socialists and liberals have different reasons for being anti-British or unpatriotic, but there is no question about it, that that is what they are.

One common reason is that they need pride in anything but leftist "heroes" (like the communist terrorist Mandela) to be destroyed, so that they can socially engineer our society, and create the hellish egalitarian multikult society that they want.

Describe an libertarian right winger or an Anarcho Capitalist then. Because if you can't then you merely describe authoritarianism. Because you get left wing patriotic countries as well.

It depends on what type of left-wing students you are talking about. Socialists and liberals have different reasons for being anti-British or unpatriotic, but there is no question about it, that that is what they are.

One common reason is that they need pride in anything but leftist "heroes" (like the communist terrorist Mandela) to be destroyed, so that they can socially engineer our society, and create the hellish egalitarian multikult society that they want.

It's generally naive, idealist, hippie types that spout that irritating view. The most irritating one being "You can't be proud of your country because you didn't choose it!" So you can't be proud of your intelligence, looks, abilities or family either then I suppose.

It is always a double standard though - because liking Britain is 'racist' but they consider being proud of your heritage etc important for other countries, and if you say people should integrate, that's also 'racist'.

Ehh. This is getting far too confusing, especially abstracting it to an international level. All I'm saying is that on TSR it is only the left wing, readily-offended types who say it is "illogical" to be proud of things. I've not seen a right wing person say it. Not all left wing people say it either, but a large handful of people do.

It's just a bit weird to understand how people can be proud of something that's so far removed from their personal life. I really enjoy living here and I think this a great country, I don't see a reason feel any pride over this country's achievements, nor do I feel shame over it's failings; because I had no personal stake in any of them.

However, it's not that I object to such an ideology, but the modern definition of patriotism seems to refer to loud, boorish attitudes to your country's success; an obsession with national symbols; and a refusal to accept any shortcomings of your countries (when even the most proud parent will accept their children has flaws). Those don't really suggest genuine pride in your country, they're just very annoying behaviours.

I'm a left wing British student and I'm not anti British- I'm just anti-patriotism.

Well I would argue that that it depends on the social outlook. Admiteddly more left wingers fit into a liberal or libertarian spectrum but you also get those from the right that hit that area as well.
Communist Mandela....I chuckle

I think this modern definition is erroneous - like the tards who in the "What is cultured?" thread said it was pretentious Rahs who wear loads of designer clothes. No that's not what the word means at all! Stick to traditional definitions.

Really? I think I would be a completely different person if I had been born in any different country. Your country has so much to do with you - your morals, attitudes, behaviour, even your personality all are affected by the country and society you live in. I think your country is an essential part of you. I mean there are national stereotypes for a reason. That's why I can't understand it when people think it's really racist to like your country...

gosh, you really know how to persuade people to change their minds. I have completely rethought and changed my mind on my stance on patriotism because you called me an idiot.

Yet you are still unable to refute my arguement, nor justify your own

this is absolute nonsense, and sounds worringly like the type of argument a liberal nationalist like Tamir would put forward in trying to reconcile liberalism and nationalism. the notion of a contextualized individual has been torn to shreds by numerous scholars (MacCormick, Charney, Buttle et al), and even if something did give you part of your identity, to then argue that one should automatically be proud of it is entirely illogical. would I be proud of my country if it was run by an authoritarian dictatorship, even though it helped form part of my identity? probably not.