So you say that being Gay is something that God gave you...?

Where is the evidence that sexuality is not, at least partly, determined before people are born?

Where is the evidence there is?

I'm not making any assumptions

It beggars belief that TSR lets the level of moronic stupidity as expressed by the OP have a voice, let alone a discussion.

Its so stupid how one partner always acts like the opposite sex....VERY CLEAR INDICATION that homosexuality is abnormal and clear sign of madness!

Again, if being Gay is not a lifestyle choice then it must come from somewhere. Nothing stems from nowhere. Simple cause and effect in motion. Otherwise, being Gay or Straight or Bi or whatever you are is a lifestyle choice.

If it is a lifestyle choice then why do we see gay animals, gay penguins are considered to be better at bringing up young that straight ones, surely it is not a lifestyle choice for animals?

That is actually a homosexual animal is one that spends abnormal amount of time with the same sex and appears to lack interest in the opposite, this could be down to other reasons other than homosexuality.

So the two male penguins that raised a child as a couple weren't gay, they just happened to spend alot of time together ... right

Ever heard of over-population?

I love this. Despite the fact that you can ask any gay person, literally any gay person and they will tell you it's not a choice and it's uncontrollable yet people still think it's a choice. Do you not think that if it's a choice, at least one gay person would have cracked by now and admitted it, but no.

Two male penguins raise a child together and that suggests that there is homosexuality in through out the animal kingdom aside from humans? How exactly did that child come to be in the first place? Fail.

Well, twin studies, for example, strongly suggest that there is a genetic component to sexual orientation.

Two male penguins raise a child together and that suggests that there is homosexuality in through out the animal kingdom aside from humans? How exactly did that child come to be in the first place? Fail.

Actually, they started nursing a rock thinking it was an egg, at which point the zoo keepers gave them an egg from another woman (Yes, I'm not suggesting that two men can have children) and they raised it as a couple. I don't see how you stating the obvious that two male penguins can't have a child naturally disproves the existence of homosexuality in the animal kingdom ...



What, you think we have evolved to have multiple children and preserve the human race? That's nothing to do with evolution as having children is a conscious decision, however human beings changing unwillingly is a result of evolution. Whether that's to do with homosexuality, I don't know, but it's one explanation (That homosexuality is to counter over-population), and your claim that homosexuality goes against evolution is a tad unfounded as evolution is nothing to do with the conscious decision to have children. In essence, what I'm saying is that you saying it goes against evolution is silly as it can work both ways.



Watch this. It basically confirms that most of these "converts" are just kidding themselves.

On top of this a statement from the "Royal College of Psychiatrists? Gay and Lesbian Mental Health Special Interest Group" says "There is no sound scientific evidence that sexual orientation can be changed. Furthermore so-called treatments of homosexuality as recommended by NARTH create a setting in which prejudice and discrimination can flourish."". Now you could argue that they're biased as they're specifically looking into whether sexuality can be changed, however they can't create evidence from nowhere and the fact remains that there is no credible evidence to suggest homosexuality can be changed.

Sorry but I just don't see the arguement in your posts. Your saying homosexuality is not a choice, if that's a case then it is most certainly a birth defect like I said before.