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Going to the worst university ever, but doing a course i like...

Should i be happy?

I got BBC in my alevels (Biology, Chemistry and Maths),i had applied in clearing to QM (who until today said i was on their waiting list). I called them today and they told me i was unsuccessful :frown: :frown: . The only other university i could find in clearing at such a late stage was..University of East London. I don't know what to do, I've already had a gap year and can't afford another one. I feel stupid now for pinning all my hopes in QM. I've never heard of UEL until today.

The course i'm doing is Biochemistry, i'm very likely to do a masters degree after my undergrad. In fact, i'm particularly interested in doing a masters to become a genetic counselor (very specific i know, but it seems genuinely interesting and i'm already in love with the course). Should i just put up with 3 years at UEL??? Or maybe risk doing a second year transfer? My gcse's were decent (3A*4A's 3B's) but does that even matter?

I'm still in shock.

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lilo1234
Should i be happy?

I got BBC in my alevels (Biology, Chemistry and Maths),i had applied in clearing to QM (who until today said i was on their waiting list). I called them today and they told me i was unsuccessful :frown: :frown: . The only other university i could find in clearing at such a late stage was..University of East London. I don't know what to do, I've already had a gap year and can't afford another one. I feel stupid now for pinning all my hopes in QM. I've never heard of UEL until today.

The course i'm doing is Biochemistry, i'm very likely to do a masters degree after my undergrad. In fact, i'm particularly interested in doing a masters to become a genetic counselor (very specific i know, but it seems genuinely interesting and i'm already in love with the course). Should i just put up with 3 years at UEL??? Or maybe risk doing a second year transfer? My gcse's were decent (3A*4A's 3B's) but does that even matter?

I'm still in shock.


I know UEL is low in the league tables but I visited the Cyprus campus (can't remember the exact name of the station) a while back for some Anthropology day and it's actually quite nice. I was put off applying there because it's not got a great reputation but I honestly wouldn't mind going, the students seemed really friendly and decent. The course looked pretty good too. I know it's different to yours but I wouldn't say UEL are terrible.

Transfer if you don't like it there after a year, sure. But even one year isn't so bad. I got an offer through clearing for Goldsmiths which I declined 'cause I hated the uni. But despite it being a lot better than UEL in the league tables and stuff I'd still rather go to UEL.
Reply 2
Hardly the worst university ever.
Are you sure there is only UEL?

I know that Salford University still has biochemistry degrees open, one with a year in the USA. I'd rate Salford above UEL for biochem.

I'd double check what is left before you make any decisions.
Re-apply.

Taking a year out is far better than spending 3 years doing something you may simply not enjoy. Clearing has a way of pushing people in directions they do not want to go - and this is perpetuated by the 'must go directly to uni' mentality that seems to have been fostered in the UK.

If I were you I would accept the offer and sport everything out but have a very good think about what's important to you and then withdraw prior to enrollment + re-apply next year.

Good luck.
Reply 5
Wow wicked a levels just stick who the uni
Reply 6
i didnt know that existed o.0
paddy__power
perpetuated by the 'must go directly to uni' mentality that seems to have been fostered in the UK.


I agree with what you are saying but I think it is hard for students like OP who have already had one gap year and can't afford a second; the job market is quite tough at the moment, so another year out might be hard to fill productively.
PercyChatsworth
I agree with what you are saying but I think it is hard for students like OP who have already had one gap year and can't afford a second; the job market is quite tough at the moment, so another year out might be hard to fill productively.


I'm in the same position.

Failed my A levels and can't find a job to pay my rent (lived alone since 16) so am having to move onto a mates sofa for a month and a half even if I DO take the clearing place I've been offered.

If I hadn't got it I would be homeless and moneyless without friends helping me so I do understand the situation. Given this, however, I'm aware it's perfectly doable. Not everything will be handed to us and sometimes we have to take risks.

Also, I would bet by 'can't afford one' the OP means can't afford to bugger off travelling etc.
paddy__power
I'm in the same position.

Failed my A levels and can't find a job to pay my rent (lived alone since 16) so am having to move onto a mates sofa for a month and a half even if I DO take the clearing place I've been offered.

If I hadn't got it I would be homeless and moneyless without friends helping me so I do understand the situation. Given this, however, I'm aware it's perfectly doable. Not everything will be handed to us and sometimes we have to take risks.


I hope it works out for you - it sounds like a very difficult position to be in. Do you think you will take the place?
PercyChatsworth
I hope it works out for you - it sounds like a very difficult position to be in. Do you think you will take the place?


I'm not sure mate.

I know I can get much better places if I re-apply but the fact that I can't seem to find a job that pays enough currently will probably mean I will take the place, as it could be worse. :smile:
Reply 11
If you're in financial hardship with little prospect of getting a job, then maybe consider taking one of the two places.

I know graduates of both Salford and UEL in BioChem who have done interesting things (one ended up working in the NHS, one is now doing a Medical degree and is en-route to becoming a doctor!).

In my opinion, BioChem is not as institution-dependent as some other degrees.
Reply 12
paddy__power


Also, I would bet by 'can't afford one' the OP means can't afford to bugger off traveling etc.


Traveling has never come into my mind. I can't afford a gap year because i can't afford to pay rent again for another year. Even if i do get a job, the money doesn't last (tax) plus is all used up for rent or transport (to get to work). This gap year has been soo stressful, it's been ridiculously difficult to find a job (didn't get one until march). Plus i just want to get back to learning now.

Thanks for all the responses :o: . I think i will take the place since it's my best bet. Maybe i will try and transfer to QM (or Brunel) during my second year if my grades permit, but only if i get a high 2.1/1.1 (i don't want to delude myself into a false sense of hope). Right now i'm just going to focus on being the best student i can possibly be. As i said in my first post, i'm hoping to be a genetic counselor which can be done via a masters degree at either Manchester or Cardiff. Even at UEL i can still follow this career (http://www.medicine.manchester.ac.uk/postgraduate/taught/geneticcounselling/applications/). Reality is slowly sinking in.
Reply 13
lilo1234
Should i be happy?

I got BBC in my alevels (Biology, Chemistry and Maths),i had applied in clearing to QM (who until today said i was on their waiting list). I called them today and they told me i was unsuccessful :frown: :frown: . The only other university i could find in clearing at such a late stage was..University of East London. I don't know what to do, I've already had a gap year and can't afford another one. I feel stupid now for pinning all my hopes in QM. I've never heard of UEL until today.

The course i'm doing is Biochemistry, i'm very likely to do a masters degree after my undergrad. In fact, i'm particularly interested in doing a masters to become a genetic counselor (very specific i know, but it seems genuinely interesting and i'm already in love with the course). Should i just put up with 3 years at UEL??? Or maybe risk doing a second year transfer? My gcse's were decent (3A*4A's 3B's) but does that even matter?

I'm still in shock.

There's no point in doing a course you like at 'the worst university ever' - that means poor teaching, poor course structure etc. Maybe you could attempt to transfer, though that's very risky business, especially if it involves going to a uni you don't want to go to in the first year

also don't think that everything will be OK because you want to do a masters, you can't really plan for a masters degree at this stage, you might not feel like it at the end of your degree, you might not do well enough, you might not be able to get funding, etc.

Obviosuly you don't want to do another gap year, but it's still an option, because it's basically that or go to 'the worst university ever.'
Kerny
There's no point in doing a course you like at 'the worst university ever' - that means poor teaching, poor course structure etc. Maybe you could attempt to transfer, though that's very risky business, especially if it involves going to a uni you don't want to go to in the first year

also don't think that everything will be OK because you want to do a masters, you can't really plan for a masters degree at this stage, you might not feel like it at the end of your degree, you might not do well enough, you might not be able to get funding, etc.

Obviosuly you don't want to do another gap year, but it's still an option, because it's basically that or go to 'the worst university ever.'


Actually, lower ranked unis often have better teaching because they are more student-based than research-based. And I see no argument whatsoever that a course at a low-ranked uni will be inherently poorly structured. :rolleyes:
Reply 15
What a good way to make UEL students feel good...
I'm going to Coventry and I don't like the uni itself but I love the course. It's right up my alley.

But I think it'll be fine for you, it's no worry actually if you're going to enjoy the course.
Manitude
What a good way to make UEL students feel good...


It's not even in the worst part of east London - I don't see what they're complaining about. :rolleyes:
Sorry, didn't read all the responses... but what struck me in your post is how you want to be a genetic counsellor, but doing Biochemistry? Wouldn't you be better suited doing Biomed, or Genetics? Rather than Biochem? I did physiology, because at the time I wanted to do something with Cardiacs! Biochem doesn't seem the right path into anything genetic-related.

EDIT: Not saying you can't get in to it through Biochem, just seems that if you're interested in Genetics, why specialise in Biochem?
deathbeforeimmortality
I'm going to Coventry and I don't like the uni itself but I love the course. It's right up my alley.

But I think it'll be fine for you, it's no worry actually if you're going to enjoy the course.


Are you going to bother moving to Coventry from Birmingham (out of interest)?

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