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Hi I was turned down after I'd filled the medical forms in. I didn't get as far as an interview even though the AFCO said he had asthma and it didn't hinder his application!!
Reply 21
Is this the exact same for the Army?Or is the RAF a lot more strict?

I mean, I talked to a Sergeant on live chat and he informed me I needed to be 4 years clear of an inhaler before applying so that is what I am planning to do! Except you (whoever :s-smilie:) said they did this and got rejected!

So will this be the exact same in the Army or if I do what he said, will they allow me in?
Reply 22
Different jobs have different rules. Go ask the experts.

Saying 'joining the RAF' or 'joining the Army' is far far too vague. RAF Pilots cannot have had any history of asthma at all, but RAF technicians can get away with having had relatively recent diagnosed asthma, providing they ar then past it by a certain time.

There's no one size fits all rule, stop looking for one.
Reply 23
Original post by Drewski
Different jobs have different rules. Go ask the experts.

Saying 'joining the RAF' or 'joining the Army' is far far too vague. RAF Pilots cannot have had any history of asthma at all, but RAF technicians can get away with having had relatively recent diagnosed asthma, providing they ar then past it by a certain time.

There's no one size fits all rule, stop looking for one.


Didnt I just say I talked to a Sergeant on Lice Chat...? So I am guessing I spoke to an expert.

And when I meant Army, I meant Infantry. And I was just curious as the previous guy said he had not had an inhaler for 4 years and got rejected so I was just curious if that would happen in my case, even though the Sergeant told me I could 'apply'..
Reply 24
If you're being as vague to them as you are to us, then the answers to your questions will get you nowhere.
Reply 25
In my childhood i was prescribed inhaler pumps for a chest infection. After a few weeks it all cleared up and i havent had anything since. I was under 10 when it happened.

No amount of physical excersie makes me wheeze or have any asthmatic symptoms, ive even been checked over by a doctor and given the all clear. Ive been given my medical records and it doesnt say asthma anywhere. Just i had a chest infection and was given pumps.

Is this likely to be a no when applying to aircrew roles?
Reply 26
The absence of the magic word [asthma] is likely to be key.

While the never wheezing through exercise and all-clear by a Doc are good signs, they don't necessarily lend themselves to a direct verdict to how your body will cope at 40,000ft+, breathing 100% Ox and pulling hard G.
Realistically, the only way you'll have of knowing - because noone here is a doctor or high up in the selection centre - is by applying.

The general consensus on here will probably agree with me that your circumstances aren't likely to rule you out, but that is purely guesswork. With fewer and fewer people being recruited, but more and more applicants - especially in aircrew branches - they RAF can be as picky as they want.



By the way, if you react as badly in this thread as you did in the other one your dupe set up, don't expect help in future.
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Reply 27
Original post by Drewski
The absence of the magic word [asthma] is likely to be key.

While the never wheezing through exercise and all-clear by a Doc are good signs, they don't necessarily lend themselves to a direct verdict to how your body will cope at 40,000ft+, breathing 100% Ox and pulling hard G.
Realistically, the only way you'll have of knowing - because noone here is a doctor or high up in the selection centre - is by applying.

The general consensus on here will probably agree with me that your circumstances aren't likely to rule you out, but that is purely guesswork. With fewer and fewer people being recruited, but more and more applicants - especially in aircrew branches - they RAF can be as picky as they want.



By the way, if you react as badly in this thread as you did in the other one your dupe set up, don't expect help in future.


Thank you, much appreciated!
Reply 28
Original post by Drewski
The absence of the magic word [asthma] is likely to be key.

While the never wheezing through exercise and all-clear by a Doc are good signs, they don't necessarily lend themselves to a direct verdict to how your body will cope at 40,000ft+, breathing 100% Ox and pulling hard G.
Realistically, the only way you'll have of knowing - because noone here is a doctor or high up in the selection centre - is by applying.

The general consensus on here will probably agree with me that your circumstances aren't likely to rule you out, but that is purely guesswork. With fewer and fewer people being recruited, but more and more applicants - especially in aircrew branches - they RAF can be as picky as they want.



By the way, if you react as badly in this thread as you did in the other one your dupe set up, don't expect help in future.



Also have the RAF changed the age ranged for pilot? I thought the max age was 23 but the careers site states 25.
Reply 29
Original post by RDL445
Also have the RAF changed the age ranged for pilot? I thought the max age was 23 but the careers site states 25.


Yes, it was changed ~2 years ago and is now in line with the RN. As long as you are not yet 26 on the first day of training, you can enter as a Pilot.


Or at least, apply to enter as a pilot...
Reply 30
I know this is likely to have been asked hundreds of times but i could do with some advice. I would love to have an aircrew role in the RAF

On my medical records it states i have asthma. Only one incident in 2002 (When i was 11) i was diagnosed with it and given inhalers. From what i remember it all cleared up pretty quickly after my check with the GP. I havent had any problems since but i have renewed my inhalers twice in 2006 and 2008 because they were out of date (i didnt even have a checkeup, and it wasnt me who collected them). I have never used them since that one incident in 2002.

I know asthma history is a no no in regards to aircrew roles but is there anyway i could ever join as aircrew?

Because of one incident surly this cant be a definite case i have asthma, especially when i havent had any symptoms since of the age of 11 (im 20 now). If i get my gp and an asthma specialist to give me the all clear, in writing and attach it to my application would they give me a second look in regard to aircrew roles?

Thank you all in advance and any information would be gladly welcomed!
Reply 31
This thread again... Do a search, it has been asked before.


*Generally* If you can prove your asthma diagnosis was false, you have a chance. If not, as you wrote yourself asthma history is a no no.
Got family in the RAF as pilots and aircrew, and am applying to the British Army myself. Best advice I can give you first of all is to talk to your local careers office. They're all great chaps, really helpful and will give you up to date advice. I would imagine though that joining off the bat into an aircrew role would be difficult. However, if you were to join the RAF, say, as a member of the RAF Regiment, it might be possible transfer into an aircrew role later on after several years of service. I know of several Army Air Corps pilots who have done so with less than 20/20 vision; not sure if it would apply for Asthma.

(At a selection board I have coming up, I have to do a test on a bike with dry air being pumped down a nozzle into my throat as I had Asthma years ago, but it's totally gone now. I'm applying for infantry though, not pilot.)
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Reply 33
Hell, scroll down the page and you'll see OASC's actual guidance on asthma.

This thread


Original post by CJM13
Got family in the RAF as pilots and aircrew, and am applying to the British Army myself. Best advice I can give you first of all is to talk to your local careers office. They're all great chaps, really helpful and will give you up to date advice. I would imagine though that joining off the bat into an aircrew role would be difficult. However, if you were to join the RAF, say, as a member of the RAF Regiment, it might be possible transfer into an aircrew role later on after several years of service. I know of several Army Air Corps pilots who have done so with less than 20/20 vision; not sure if it would apply for Asthma.


No offence, but that's rubbish advice as far as the RAF's concerned. Most careers offices have don't seem clued up on the medical side of things - hence why so many questions come up here.

But never enter into a trade with the plan to move on later. It's a waste of your own time and of the RAF's time. Reasons have been explained to death in other threads.
Well, my army careers office seemed fairly clued up, I merely assumed that the RAF would be reasonably competent. What a mistake that was. I wasn't advocating moving on, I'm was merely saying it might be a possibility.
Reply 35
Original post by CJM13
Well, my army careers office seemed fairly clued up, I merely assumed that the RAF would be reasonably competent. What a mistake that was. I wasn't advocating moving on, I'm was merely saying it might be a possibility.


The goalposts change so regularly wrt to selection, who's eligible, what ages, what medical history and it seems they have issues getting all careers places in the know.

It's a technical possibility, but the downside? Getting stuck in a job you didn't want for 20yrs.
I have read about people getting into aircrew roles who have made a strong case in light of their minor asthma history. But today when the RAF is cutting back they have afford to be picky so the factors are against you. From my research if you can get your asthma misdiagnosed and get your gp/specialist to give you the all clear you have a chance.
Reply 37
Original post by birduk
So did you lie by ticking all the no boxes on the form? That is probably why they didn't have enough information- if you were trying to cover it up instead of being honest.

Integrity? Core values mean anything to you?


Note: don't make judgments before they've answered the bloody question you asked!

And to all those w/ asthma history then I suggest applying anyway. It's not going to affect you in anyway really as you've nothing to lose. Just don't get your hopes up.
Reply 38
Original post by DSR1
I know this is likely to have been asked hundreds of times but i could do with some advice. I would love to have an aircrew role in the RAF

On my medical records it states i have asthma. Only one incident in 2002 (When i was 11) i was diagnosed with it and given inhalers. From what i remember it all cleared up pretty quickly after my check with the GP. I havent had any problems since but i have renewed my inhalers twice in 2006 and 2008 because they were out of date (i didnt even have a checkeup, and it wasnt me who collected them). I have never used them since that one incident in 2002.

I know asthma history is a no no in regards to aircrew roles but is there anyway i could ever join as aircrew?

Because of one incident surly this cant be a definite case i have asthma, especially when i havent had any symptoms since of the age of 11 (im 20 now). If i get my gp and an asthma specialist to give me the all clear, in writing and attach it to my application would they give me a second look in regard to aircrew roles?

Thank you all in advance and any information would be gladly welcomed!


I'm at no authority to give you a decisive answer but saying you have not had any symptoms since age 11, then stating you had an inhaler prescription a couple of years ago is contradictory. I know you may not have had any symptoms since you were 11, but you got a prescription, and seeing as the RAF have no way of seeing whether or not you actually used it, your chances are looking unlikely.

Still go for it though. A lot of people are dissuaded to apply just because of things they read on the internet. You never know, someone up there may like you.
Original post by Rzc
I'm at no authority to give you a decisive answer but saying you have not had any symptoms since age 11, then stating you had an inhaler prescription a couple of years ago is contradictory. I know you may not have had any symptoms since you were 11, but you got a prescription, and seeing as the RAF have no way of seeing whether or not you actually used it, your chances are looking unlikely.

Still go for it though. A lot of people are dissuaded to apply just because of things they read on the internet. You never know, someone up there may like you.


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