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When they made me an offer I couldn't refuse! The prospects are better to start and the risk much lower. I'm looking forward to training and doing some real work.

Thanks for the congrats, how's your degree treated you?

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Original post by jjarvis
When they made me an offer I couldn't refuse! The prospects are better to start and the risk much lower. I'm looking forward to training and doing some real work.

Thanks for the congrats, how's your degree treated you?

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I remember you got an offer from my firm? Could you PM me the reasons you went for HS? :smile: Would be very curious.
Sure, will do when I get out of bed and am on the computer.

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Original post by jjarvis
When they made me an offer I couldn't refuse! The prospects are better to start and the risk much lower. I'm looking forward to training and doing some real work.

Thanks for the congrats, how's your degree treated you?

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Howdy jjarvis,
My grades were very mediocre last year, as I didn't get the descriptive vs. Argument/illustrative distinction when answering exam questions... I have worked hard at combatting this, this year... Get grades beginning of July... Start the bptc in the fall... Looking forward to it actually...
Original post by G8D
Conversion from Scots to English law. Someone able to walk me through?

What's the likelihood of a firm funding/assisting conversion?


Complete Scots Law degree > Slimmed down GDL with exemptions. You'd have to do Land/Trust, Criminal and Contract/Tort > LPC > Training.
Complete Scots Law degree > DLP > Training > Transfer. I'd imagine this would be easier with a Scottish firm which had offices in England.

The bigger the firm, the more likely they are to fund it. I think most of the big commercial (City/Silver and Magic Circle) firms fund the GDL and LPC, a list here: http://targetjobs.co.uk/career-sectors/law-solicitors/training-to-become-a-solicitor/financial-support-for-conversion-vocati
I had the option to dual qualify in both Scots and English law but that would have meant not having any real choice in modules or doing company or intellectual property law. :moon:
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Original post by Ape Gone Insane
I had the option to dual qualify in both Scots and English law but that would have meant not having any real choice in modules or doing company or intellectual property law. :moon:

Still at Dundee?
Hi everyone I really need advice.

Very long story short, my law degree won't be qualifying due to a massive error on the universities part. they've offered me to do 2 modules that I need to do on the side in order to make it as close to qualifying as possible although its not guaranteed. I will still have a law degree, it just won't be qualifying with the law society.

If I decided to not do these 2 exams (which i am strongly considering at the moment due to personal circumstances) and my degree wasnt qualifying with the law society, what would I need to do in order for me to have a qualifying law degree, would I do the GDL?
Original post by insignificant
Hi everyone I really need advice.

Very long story short, my law degree won't be qualifying due to a massive error on the universities part. they've offered me to do 2 modules that I need to do on the side in order to make it as close to qualifying as possible although its not guaranteed. I will still have a law degree, it just won't be qualifying with the law society.

If I decided to not do these 2 exams (which i am strongly considering at the moment due to personal circumstances) and my degree wasnt qualifying with the law society, what would I need to do in order for me to have a qualifying law degree, would I do the GDL?


That's awful! :eek:

Based on this, I think you're right. The starting point is that everyone has to do the GDL but qualifying law students are exempted (rather than non-lawyers being made to do an extra course), if you see what I mean.

As an aside, which modules have you done/are missing for your degree to be qualifying? Have you thought about bringing an action against the university?
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Original post by Tortious
That's awful! :eek:

Based on this, I think you're right. The starting point is that everyone has to do the GDL but qualifying law students are exempted (rather than non-lawyers being made to do an extra course), if you see what I mean.

As an aside, which modules have you done/are missing for your degree to be qualifying? Have you thought about bringing an action against the university?


Hi. I ended up contacting the Solicitors Regulation Authority this afternoon and they told me that my degree won't be qualifying as although I will be doing the two extra modules they aren't part of my degree so it won't be qualifying as i won't have the core modules. No I haven't as I don't think I could handle all of the stress, how would I go about doing so?
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So the degree was advertised as being 'qualifying' when you enrolled into it but it then came out that it wasn't qualifying at all? Is that not fraud?
Original post by Zedd
So the degree was advertised as being 'qualifying' when you enrolled into it but it then came out that it wasn't qualifying at all? Is that not fraud?


I'm not sure it'd count as fraud since it sounds like they're (potentially) incompetent rather than having the intention to make a gain or cause a loss. :erm:

Original post by insignificant
Hi. I ended up contacting the Solicitors Regulation Authority this afternoon and they told me that my degree won't be qualifying as although I will be doing the two extra modules they aren't part of my degree so it won't be qualifying as i won't have the core modules. No I haven't as I don't think I could handle all of the stress, how would I go about doing so?


I think it'll depend on the nature of the circumstances. If it's as Zedd suggests and you were led to believe that the degree was qualifying when it never was (and the university didn't ever mean for it to be), that could be fraud.

If the degree was meant to be qualifying (and the university meant it to be) but it was negligently taught so you didn't cover some of the qualifying material, I think you'd have a civil case but there wouldn't be a crime.

Either way, this page looks useful - to be honest, I've never been in a situation where I've had to deal with complaints against a university, so I wouldn't be sure where to start. What action have you taken so far? Is there any benefit in firing off an email to your students' union to see whether they can put you in touch with someone who knows their way around the complaints system? As that site (above) says, I think you need to explore all options internally first, although it doesn't sound like there's anything the university can do to rectify its mistake!

EDIT: Something else that might prove interesting is to Westlaw cases involving your university to see who its solicitors are. Hopefully that'll give you an idea of who might specialise in this kind of thing if you do decide to sue!
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Original post by Tortious
I'm not sure it'd count as fraud since it sounds like they're (potentially) incompetent rather than having the intention to make a gain or cause a loss. :erm:



I think it'll depend on the nature of the circumstances. If it's as Zedd suggests and you were led to believe that the degree was qualifying when it never was (and the university didn't ever mean for it to be), that could be fraud.

If the degree was meant to be qualifying (and the university meant it to be) but it was negligently taught so you didn't cover some of the qualifying material, I think you'd have a civil case but there wouldn't be a crime.

Either way, this page looks useful - to be honest, I've never been in a situation where I've had to deal with complaints against a university, so I wouldn't be sure where to start. What action have you taken so far? Is there any benefit in firing off an email to your students' union to see whether they can put you in touch with someone who knows their way around the complaints system? As that site (above) says, I think you need to explore all options internally first, although it doesn't sound like there's anything the university can do to rectify its mistake!

EDIT: Something else that might prove interesting is to Westlaw cases involving your university to see who its solicitors are. Hopefully that'll give you an idea of who might specialise in this kind of thing if you do decide to sue!


Thankyou for your reply. What happened was, I enquired to the university as to whether I could transfer into their second year LLB Law course, I would have to repeat second year there, but I would still be able to. They agreed that this would be fine to do, after looking at my transcript, and having every opportunity to ring my other university. It was confirmed via UCAS and everything was fine and dandy until a couple of weeks before when it was pointed out to me that they do Criminal Law in second year, whereas I had already done it, and there were some other irregularities. They realised that the courses weren't compatible and said the only thing they could do to make it close to qualifying is to offer me property and trusts 1 and law of tort which is the ones i was missing as additional modules to my degree though they wouldn't be counted towards my degree as there wasnt enough room credits. I took them modules and wasnt able to sit them this summer due to medical reasons and I still have those medical reasons . I decided to contact the SRA today as noone else had done within the university and they told me that there is no point in me doing them as it won't make the degree qualifying and I will have to do it as part of the GDL .

I went to go get free legal advice this evening from a solicitors which run a weekly evening service and it turns out he did his GDL at my university and practised with some people that teach there. He's told me to go to my students union to go see their liaison representative , and then he's told me to go see his friends that teaches there as a law lecturer and to tell her i saw him, and hopefully something should be sorted. he said its ridiculous, and that none of these rules the universities set are set in statute and they should let me replace two of my electives for third year with these two modules I need so that it is qualifying. he told me to come back to him next week if i don't get anywhere.
Original post by insignificant
Thankyou for your reply. What happened was, I enquired to the university as to whether I could transfer into their second year LLB Law course, I would have to repeat second year there, but I would still be able to. They agreed that this would be fine to do, after looking at my transcript, and having every opportunity to ring my other university. It was confirmed via UCAS and everything was fine and dandy until a couple of weeks before when it was pointed out to me that they do Criminal Law in second year, whereas I had already done it, and there were some other irregularities. They realised that the courses weren't compatible and said the only thing they could do to make it close to qualifying is to offer me property and trusts 1 and law of tort which is the ones i was missing as additional modules to my degree though they wouldn't be counted towards my degree as there wasnt enough room credits. I took them modules and wasnt able to sit them this summer due to medical reasons and I still have those medical reasons . I decided to contact the SRA today as noone else had done within the university and they told me that there is no point in me doing them as it won't make the degree qualifying and I will have to do it as part of the GDL .

I went to go get free legal advice this evening from a solicitors which run a weekly evening service and it turns out he did his GDL at my university and practised with some people that teach there. He's told me to go to my students union to go see their liaison representative , and then he's told me to go see his friends that teaches there as a law lecturer and to tell her i saw him, and hopefully something should be sorted. he said its ridiculous, and that none of these rules the universities set are set in statute and they should let me replace two of my electives for third year with these two modules I need so that it is qualifying. he told me to come back to him next week if i don't get anywhere.


Ah, I see - hopefully this gets sorted out! Best of luck with it. :smile:
Original post by Tortious
Ah, I see - hopefully this gets sorted out! Best of luck with it. :smile:


Thankyou, I have a feeling this is gonna be a long arduous process but 100% worth it.
I'm starting law in September! How is it? And what's your favourite module? :smile:


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Original post by imasupercoolgeek
I'm starting law in September! How is it? And what's your favourite module? :smile:


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Anything more practical was more enjoyable for me. So negotiation, mediation, mooting. Actually feeling like I was doing something closer to what I would do in the real world. As for the academic subjects, I really enjoyed everything to do with banking and financial crime as well as medical law and ethics.
Original post by imasupercoolgeek
I'm starting law in September! How is it? And what's your favourite module? :smile:


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Equity and Aspects of Obligations (advanced contract/tort, intro to unjust enrichment) were my favourites. It was a tough course, but I really enjoyed it.
Original post by imasupercoolgeek
I'm starting law in September! How is it? And what's your favourite module? :smile:


Jurisprudence. I really enjoyed the philosophy aspect of law.
Original post by imasupercoolgeek
I'm starting law in September! How is it? And what's your favourite module? :smile:


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Hmmm ... probably labour law was my favourite though Aspects of Obligations was pretty good as was contract.

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