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So I hath returned for second year and bare gifts!!
Lots of reading for land law as well as equity and trusts
Lots of reading for land law as well as equity and trusts
Original post by Lord Jon
So I hath returned for second year and bare gifts!!
Lots of reading for land law as well as equity and trusts
Lots of reading for land law as well as equity and trusts
I see what you did there.
Hello. I am new to this thread but definitely not new to TSR. Currently studying undergraduate law via distance learning while working full time in the civil service.
Bizarrely enjoying contract law so far, but dear god, there's so much reading and so many cases to remember. How much of a case are you actually expected to recall in the exam? It seems achievable to remember case names and the key part as a minimum but do you also have to remember the outcome and reasoning for the original case and each subsequent appeal? Eek.
Bizarrely enjoying contract law so far, but dear god, there's so much reading and so many cases to remember. How much of a case are you actually expected to recall in the exam? It seems achievable to remember case names and the key part as a minimum but do you also have to remember the outcome and reasoning for the original case and each subsequent appeal? Eek.
Original post by Valjean
Hello. I am new to this thread but definitely not new to TSR. Currently studying undergraduate law via distance learning while working full time in the civil service.
Bizarrely enjoying contract law so far, but dear god, there's so much reading and so many cases to remember. How much of a case are you actually expected to recall in the exam? It seems achievable to remember case names and the key part as a minimum but do you also have to remember the outcome and reasoning for the original case and each subsequent appeal? Eek.
Bizarrely enjoying contract law so far, but dear god, there's so much reading and so many cases to remember. How much of a case are you actually expected to recall in the exam? It seems achievable to remember case names and the key part as a minimum but do you also have to remember the outcome and reasoning for the original case and each subsequent appeal? Eek.
The main facts is the lecturer tends to use those in a problem question as a prompt to use a case.
And of course the legal principle!
Original post by tehforum
The main facts is the lecturer tends to use those in a problem question as a prompt to use a case.
And of course the legal principle!
And of course the legal principle!
Thank you, that is really helpful.
If you wouldn't mind answering another question, did you read every case referred to in lectures/course materials at source? I have been trying to but I find I spend a ridiculous amount of my study time reading cases and then have to rush seminar questions.
I guess a skill to I need to develop is to skim cases quickly and pick out the important bits, but I don't seem to take any of the information in unless I read slowly and pause to reflect several times.
Original post by Valjean
Thank you, that is really helpful.
If you wouldn't mind answering another question, did you read every case referred to in lectures/course materials at source? I have been trying to but I find I spend a ridiculous amount of my study time reading cases and then have to rush seminar questions.
I guess a skill to I need to develop is to skim cases quickly and pick out the important bits, but I don't seem to take any of the information in unless I read slowly and pause to reflect several times.
If you wouldn't mind answering another question, did you read every case referred to in lectures/course materials at source? I have been trying to but I find I spend a ridiculous amount of my study time reading cases and then have to rush seminar questions.
I guess a skill to I need to develop is to skim cases quickly and pick out the important bits, but I don't seem to take any of the information in unless I read slowly and pause to reflect several times.
Invest in Burrows' casebook on contract law. It gives great extracts of the most relevant bits of all the major contract cases.
Original post by Valjean
did you read every case referred to in lectures/course materials at source?
did you read every case referred to in lectures/course materials at source?
Lol.
Original post by Illiberal Liberal
Lol.
I see.Don't know if anyone remembers me losing my **** over referencing ITT but I just found out that I managed to get a distinction in that dissertation 
I can only gather that my very shortened, made up on the spot referencing system didn't bother anyone too much.
I can only gather that my very shortened, made up on the spot referencing system didn't bother anyone too much.
Original post by TimmonaPortella
Don't know if anyone remembers me losing my **** over referencing ITT but I just found out that I managed to get a distinction in that dissertation
I can only gather that my very shortened, made up on the spot referencing system didn't bother anyone too much.
I can only gather that my very shortened, made up on the spot referencing system didn't bother anyone too much.
Well done
Original post by TimmonaPortella
Don't know if anyone remembers me losing my **** over referencing ITT but I just found out that I managed to get a distinction in that dissertation
I can only gather that my very shortened, made up on the spot referencing system didn't bother anyone too much.
I can only gather that my very shortened, made up on the spot referencing system didn't bother anyone too much.
ayyy
congrats
Original post by Forum User
Well done
Original post by tehforum
ayyy
congrats
congrats
Cheers guys
Congrats on the first.
idk why 'lol' at reading every case: for modules I enjoyed, I read every case (or at least the relevant bits; obv I'm not going to read a bit of a judgment on a separate point of the appeal), for modules which I didn't enjoy so much, I read the key cases and got the key points of the others insofar as it was possible from textbooks, journals, Westlaw, and google.
idk why 'lol' at reading every case: for modules I enjoyed, I read every case (or at least the relevant bits; obv I'm not going to read a bit of a judgment on a separate point of the appeal), for modules which I didn't enjoy so much, I read the key cases and got the key points of the others insofar as it was possible from textbooks, journals, Westlaw, and google.
See case name -> search on Westlaw -> read headnote and the relevant paragraphs cited -> done
People with TCs - how useful are careers fairs with trainees attending? One of my friends said speaking to a trainee helped her loads in getting her TC with a city firm because she referenced a lot of what they told her in her application.
Any truth to this? I'm applying this year I think, probably just for one/two firms specialising in my chosen area, but I couldn't make it to the fair today so didn't get to speak to the trainees :/
Any truth to this? I'm applying this year I think, probably just for one/two firms specialising in my chosen area, but I couldn't make it to the fair today so didn't get to speak to the trainees :/
Really good thread here
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Original post by infairverona
People with TCs - how useful are careers fairs with trainees attending? One of my friends said speaking to a trainee helped her loads in getting her TC with a city firm because she referenced a lot of what they told her in her application.
Any truth to this? I'm applying this year I think, probably just for one/two firms specialising in my chosen area, but I couldn't make it to the fair today so didn't get to speak to the trainees :/
Any truth to this? I'm applying this year I think, probably just for one/two firms specialising in my chosen area, but I couldn't make it to the fair today so didn't get to speak to the trainees :/
What I think are more useful are lectures by law firms and company presentations, which give more information and allow you to talk to more trainees (and even partners) for a longer time.
Original post by Bupdeeboowah
That's only if you can get hold of them and speak to them for a long time, which is unlikely given the careers fair attendance. Unless you've prepared a list of (specialised) questions the careers fair I feel is just to hear the trainees' pitches and to collect pamphlets and freebies.
What I think are more useful are lectures by law firms and company presentations, which give more information and allow you to talk to more trainees (and even partners) for a longer time.
What I think are more useful are lectures by law firms and company presentations, which give more information and allow you to talk to more trainees (and even partners) for a longer time.
I don't think they're doing any lectures or presentations
they only take 2 trainees a year but they have very specific requirements about the area of law it is, and for once my strange, quite niche experience actually meets all of their criteria so I will definitely give it a go. I can't find anything about their salary or if they pay for the LPC either - I guess it's not appropriate to ask a trainee that anywayAnybody know a lot about tax?
Was having a discussion earlier today about the rationale behind s 39(2) TCGA 1992, which was originally enacted as Sch 6 Para 3(2) Finance Act 1965, (the Act which introduced CGT). On the face of it, it seems quite harsh given that it disallows deducting revenue expenditure from gains when computing CGT, even if that revenue expenditure has not been deducted from Income Tax because the asset was not being used in any trade.
The best I could come up with was that it was intended to act as an incentive to property developers to rent out their properties rather than leaving them vacant. If they left them vacant they couldn't deduct the cost of repair or maintenance anywhere, but if they rented them out, they could deduct the cost of repair and maintenance under the Income Tax Acts (now ITTOIA 2005). And that might have been a genuine issue in 1965, since Rent Acts were still in force and so landlords might gain from leaving property vacant and accumulating capital gains rather than allowing in a tenant protected by Rent Acts.
Was having a discussion earlier today about the rationale behind s 39(2) TCGA 1992, which was originally enacted as Sch 6 Para 3(2) Finance Act 1965, (the Act which introduced CGT). On the face of it, it seems quite harsh given that it disallows deducting revenue expenditure from gains when computing CGT, even if that revenue expenditure has not been deducted from Income Tax because the asset was not being used in any trade.
The best I could come up with was that it was intended to act as an incentive to property developers to rent out their properties rather than leaving them vacant. If they left them vacant they couldn't deduct the cost of repair or maintenance anywhere, but if they rented them out, they could deduct the cost of repair and maintenance under the Income Tax Acts (now ITTOIA 2005). And that might have been a genuine issue in 1965, since Rent Acts were still in force and so landlords might gain from leaving property vacant and accumulating capital gains rather than allowing in a tenant protected by Rent Acts.
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