Thanks.(Original post by Jed123)
Your choice on which you choose but you come out with one degree and for maths and comp. The applied maths modules are usually replaced with computer science modules so you don't do stats and mechanics but you do pure maths and comper science. I think.
Thanks.(Original post by ttoby)
If you do computer science and maths then the worload of each of the two subjects would be half of what it would be in a normal degree, so the total workload is the same and you would end up with one degree. I'm not really sure which one's better for going into programming.
So are there any people who are doing computer science and could help me with this question? I want to find out which one will do me better, or they are the same?
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 18012012 21:13

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 18012012 22:00
(Original post by Miyata)
Thanks.
Thanks.
So are there any people who are doing computer science and could help me with this question? I want to find out which one will do me better, or they are the same? 
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 18012012 22:00
(Original post by Miyata)
Thanks.
Thanks.
So are there any people who are doing computer science and could help me with this question? I want to find out which one will do me better, or they are the same? 
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 18012012 23:22
(Original post by Jed123)
That's impossible to answer but if you generalise for computer programing comp science but for other jobs like finance and any other maths related career maths and comp would be better. But a 1st in comp is better than a 2.1 in maths and comp even for jobs that don't involve computer programming. So choose which one you will enjoy more. Option one pure maths and computer science or just comp science which still involves lots of maths but not a lo of pure maths.
(Original post by ttoby)
You could ask in the computer science forum http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=52 
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 26022012 21:07
I think I will say that as a general rule if you can get AA in Maths and Further Maths, you will be very well set for the vast majority of maths courses, though don't expect it to be necessarily easy.
I suppose Cambridge (and possibly warwick) are the biggest (but by no means only) exception to this rule, if you are good enough for cambridge maths, the honest answer is, you should find it easy to get 95%+ in all the maths modules of A level, if this isnt true, it is unlikely you will be able to tackle STEP.
Again if you strongly disagree with me, then by all means reply, neg repping without any sort of explanation does not help anyone.Last edited by QuantumOverlord; 26022012 at 23:19. 
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 27022012 02:51
(Original post by QuantumOverlord)
I think I will say that as a general rule if you can get AA in Maths and Further Maths, you will be very well set for the vast majority of maths courses, though don't expect it to be necessarily easy.
(Original post by QuantumOverlord)
I suppose Cambridge (and possibly warwick) are the biggest (but by no means only) exception to this rule, if you are good enough for cambridge maths, the honest answer is, you should find it easy to get 95%+ in all the maths modules of A level, if this isnt true, it is unlikely you will be able to tackle STEP.
I got around an average of about 75% across all the modules I took (as is stands now) and am confident enough to say I'm comfortable with STEP (well, STEP I at least ).
(Original post by QuantumOverlord)
Again if you strongly disagree with me, then by all means reply, neg repping without any sort of explanation does not help anyone.Post rating:1 
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 27022012 02:58
(Original post by ttoby)
If you do computer science and maths then the worload of each of the two subjects would be half of what it would be in a normal degree, so the total workload is the same and you would end up with one degree. I'm not really sure which one's better for going into programming. 
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 27022012 12:24
(Original post by Jam')
Some unis take up to 2/3 from each subject in joint honours degrees. 
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 27022012 13:07
(Original post by Ree69)
No. I have seen people with all A*s at ALevel (yes including Maths and Further Maths) struggle with degree level mathematics. It very much depends on the individual. ALevel maths (and indeed further maths) is a very weak indicator of how 'suited' someone is for a maths course. This tends to be the case, more so for maths than other subjects  when studied at univeristy level.
Yes I did write in my post that I didnt expect it to be 'necesarily easy', my point was for most maths courses AA at A level shows that you should be able to hack it, and indeed most people do if you look at the statistics. Everyone will struggle at some point, this isnt unusual but they tend to come out with good honours degrees anyway
Not really. Imperial, Oxford?
I said Cambridge and warwick were the biggest exception, I also tried to make clear they certainly were not the only ones, I was just trying to make the point, Cambridge (and possibly warwick Degrees) are something else.
I got around an average of about 75% across all the modules I took (as is stands now) and am confident enough to say I'm comfortable with STEP (well, STEP I at least ).
The fact is this wouldnt be true of most people, the vast majority of people that get 11 in step will also get A*A* in A level, and score generally 90% plus across all their modules, as always there will be exceptions.
I have  and as tempted as I was to neg you I thought I'd do this instead.
Feel free to neg me, if you think I deserve it, I just rather people would tell me why, if they are going to do it, thanks therefore for your very reasoned responce 
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 29022012 17:37
Yeah I mean I'd probably agree with most of the points you mentioned there  I'd just maybe put Imperial as a bigger exception to Warwick and possibly Oxford. The final two years of an Imperial maths degree look horrible.
(Original post by QuantumOverlord)
Ps: I hope you pass Step are you just doing it for fun? or applying to warwick?
In case you're wondering, I've applied to both Maths and MORSE at Warwick and will probably firm the latter should I receive an offer  although I'm still waiting! If I get rejected, I should really get a crack on with this STEP preparation.. 
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 29022012 18:01
(Original post by Ree69)
Yeah I mean I'd probably agree with most of the points you mentioned there  I'd just maybe put Imperial as a bigger exception to Warwick and possibly Oxford. The final two years of an Imperial maths degree look horrible.
Cheers! Well both really, but now I'm somewhat looking to avoid STEP prep because of (laziness ) and I've got other ideas in mind of how to spend my gap year. I'm inevitably going to be spending the next 3/4 years doing maths  I thought maybe I should do something wild over the next few months haha.
In case you're wondering, I've applied to both Maths and MORSE at Warwick and will probably firm the latter should I receive an offer  although I'm still waiting! If I get rejected, I should really get a crack on with this STEP preparation.. 
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 28032012 08:31
What would people say counts as a large maths department? 60+? 80+?
I know this isn't the right thread for this but I thought it too trivial a question to open a new thread for. 
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 28032012 09:55
(Original post by Julii92)
What would people say counts as a large maths department? 60+? 80+?
I know this isn't the right thread for this but I thought it too trivial a question to open a new thread for. 
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 31032012 19:56
(Original post by Ree69)
No. I have seen people with all A*s at ALevel (yes including Maths and Further Maths) struggle with degree level mathematics. It very much depends on the individual. ALevel maths (and indeed further maths) is a very weak indicator of how 'suited' someone is for a maths course. This tends to be the case, more so for maths than other subjects  when studied at univeristy level. 
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 31032012 22:53
(Original post by AshleyB1)
Did you ask them why? 
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 01042012 01:23
(Original post by AshleyB1)
Did you ask them why?
As the above poster emphasises, maths really is different ball game altogether at univeristy level. 
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 01042012 21:56
(Original post by Ree69)
Things just don't 'click' as naturally as they did at ALevel. This means people have to work harder than expected  which a lot are reluctant to do! I'm not sure why, but I know a lot of lazy mathematics students .
As the above poster emphasises, maths really is different ball game altogether at univeristy level.
But yeah, I'm in Y12;
*/AAAAA/BBBBB/C at GCSE, the * was for maths and one of the As was stats
and, if I'm being realistic;
AAAB in Further/Maths, Chemistry and Ancient History ALevels respectively, plus Cs in English Language and Critical Thinking AS. I know my ALevel choices are kind of messed up but oh well they seemed like a good idea at the time. ;;
What sort of tier of university would I be looking at? I have at least three hundred hours of voluntary work experience on my side but presumably places like Oxbridge and Imperial and stuff would be a waste of an application, given the C and Bs at GCSE, plus poorly chosen ALevels. I heard places called Manchester, Warwick and Bath are known for being good maths universities (and that Bath is lovely) but aren't really really really exclusive and things... But idk, I haven't really looked into stuff yet. 
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 02042012 13:19
(Original post by AshleyB1)
Scary stuff. Thanks anyway tho. ^^
But yeah, I'm in Y12;
*/AAAAA/BBBBB/C at GCSE, the * was for maths and one of the As was stats
and, if I'm being realistic;
AAAB in Further/Maths, Chemistry and Ancient History ALevels respectively, plus Cs in English Language and Critical Thinking AS. I know my ALevel choices are kind of messed up but oh well they seemed like a good idea at the time. ;;
What sort of tier of university would I be looking at? I have at least three hundred hours of voluntary work experience on my side but presumably places like Oxbridge and Imperial and stuff would be a waste of an application, given the C and Bs at GCSE, plus poorly chosen ALevels. I heard places called Manchester, Warwick and Bath are known for being good maths universities (and that Bath is lovely) but aren't really really really exclusive and things... But idk, I haven't really looked into stuff yet.
If you get those predicted grades at AS then that would put you in a very good position for applications. My main question is: what sort of UMS marks have you been getting for maths/further maths and how confident are you of getting an A* in one or both of those subjects? Most of the universities you mentioned want A* in maths (Manchester only needs an A) and some ask for A* in further maths as well.
Your GCSEs aren't too bad  six subjects at grade A or above. Universities would be focussing more on how you do at AS/A2. Have you heard of/looked at STEP papers? A few of the top universities are asking for these in some/all of their offers. You say you're looking for universities that are 'exclusive'  could you elaborate on what you mean by that?
In terms of your chances of getting an offer, Warwick would give you one automatically (providing you maintain your current standards) but it will be a hard offer. For the other universities you would have to compete to get offers, but it's hard to say what your chances of meeting them are at this stage  it depends on how likely you are to get A*s at A2. 
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 02042012 16:18
(Original post by ttoby)
You say you're looking for universities that are 'exclusive'
A* in maths is very achievable, and probably further too if I work at it (though we're not doing that until next year, so I know very little of the course). I had a look at a few STEP and AEA questions. I could do many of the AEA ones, but haven't attempted any STEP questions yet  I only heard of them yesterday.
Not entirely sure what UMS stands for but I averaged 85% for C1, C2 and M1, and got 90% in a C3 mock we had lately. That 85% was dragged down a lot by C2 which was something like 72%  I'm retaking that. Hopefully that's what you meant.
And yeah I meant I'm expecting to finish with Cs in CT AS and English AS, and am dropping them so they will only be ASs, not A2s. 
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 03042012 09:17
(Original post by AshleyB1)
*aren't. I meant, "I presume that Oxbridge and Imperial would be overoptimistic, therefore which ones are there around which won't have quite such fierce competition for places?"
A* in maths is very achievable, and probably further too if I work at it (though we're not doing that until next year, so I know very little of the course). I had a look at a few STEP and AEA questions. I could do many of the AEA ones, but haven't attempted any STEP questions yet  I only heard of them yesterday.
Not entirely sure what UMS stands for but I averaged 85% for C1, C2 and M1, and got 90% in a C3 mock we had lately. That 85% was dragged down a lot by C2 which was something like 72%  I'm retaking that. Hopefully that's what you meant.
And yeah I meant I'm expecting to finish with Cs in CT AS and English AS, and am dropping them so they will only be ASs, not A2s.
Assuming you did get an A* then you would be looking at A*AA and A*A*A universities, maybe also looking at some AAA universities as well because with your grades you would stand a higher chance of getting an offer. I just made this table http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/wiki...y_requirements that you might find useful for comparing the different offers available.
I'm not exactly sure what UMS stands for either (uniform mark scaling or something like that?) but it's the mark that appears on your results slip after it has been scaled to take into account the difficulty of the exam. I know Cambridge ask for them  yours aren't amazing compared to what other applicants might have so it's probably better not to apply there.
Another thing you can do to improve your prospects is to do some mathsrelated activities between now and when you apply. If you spend more time looking at STEP/AEA papers and practising some questions then you'll be able to write about how much you enjoyed them in your personal statement. You could also read some books about maths. If you get the opportunity to sit a maths challenge paper then that would look good on your application.Post rating:2
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