Nursing is just confusing me.

NICE stands for National Institute for Clinical Excellence and is basically the body which dictates how health care practice should be run. While some things are rigid, they are guidelines to be used in conjunction with clinician's judgement. The institue evaluates epidemiological evidence and comes to conclusions as to how patients should be treated in different scenarios or how drugs should be used. Dont worry about " knowing " them, as they are an extensive list of documents....you will learn the correct manner of administering medication and patient care as you progress through your course and will achieve a satsifactory level iof patient care upon graduation.

http://www.nice.org.uk/

Has all the information you could ever want, but i stress again there is no need to learn them in any form of entirety

oh , thankyou

NICE stands for National Institute for Clinical Excellence and is basically the body which dictates how health care practice should be run. While some things are rigid, they are guidelines to be used in conjunction with clinician's judgement. The institue evaluates epidemiological evidence and comes to conclusions as to how patients should be treated in different scenarios or how drugs should be used. Dont worry about " knowing " them, as they are an extensive list of documents....you will learn the correct manner of administering medication and patient care as you progress through your course and will achieve a satsifactory level iof patient care upon graduation.

http://www.nice.org.uk/

Has all the information you could ever want, but i stress again there is no need to learn them in any form of entirety

I don't really think its your place to say what a student nurse should and shouldn't be learning, it's hardly your area- when in actual fact as much as the student nurse doesn't need to know every sunle guideline to heart you need to have key guidance at hand for references in exams, demonstrate learning outcomes in practice through discussing NICE, and evaluating the tools, frameworks it uses in academic writing. Stick to medicine area please.

Any HCP needs to be aware of the NICE guidelines, it';s unfair to expect anyone to know them all inside out but a working knowledge of those directly relevant to your area of clinical practice is useful

carpediemxx i think Subcut's issue is the rather patronising way in which your comments could be read, in that it could be read in such as way that your view and 'expert' opinion is that Nurses don't need to worry their pretty little heads with evidence based practice.

as for your other comments are you a registered Health Professional ? what clinical experience do you actually have ?

No one answered this person except me, an answer is better than NO answer, since no one else in this nursing forum bothered with her.
As for which forum to post, this isnt a private forum, you are constantly in the medicine forum posting and my post was helpful. Get over yourself!

Also, who is to say i am not a nurse already, jeez i'm glad this attitude is in the minority where i work

Lol i used too till i got the comment similar to the one i made- i'm sorry but it can't be a rule for one side. If we're going to get told off or have rude comments about us in medicine- you have to play the same and stick to your area. The majority if threads get answered eventually

If you're interested in illnesses then NICE should be a first hand source. It gives us advice using the best available evidebxe on how we manage interventions- eg why do we offer spinal cord stimulators for pain management on the nhs, best way of managing obesity in primary care, smoking cessation in secondary care. It's a very goodidea to get your head around evidence based practice now, get familiar with databases, literature searching etc

Does it offer guidance on which asessment tools to use for anxiety with patients? Ive just typed in seach on the NICE site and cant find any guidance on which assesment tools to use.

Also should everything that a nurse does be backed up by NICE guidelines or are there other guidelines they can follow?

You know, i am a very open minded person and i enjoy company from all sorts of people, some of my best freinds at work are porters.
I go out of my way to have a level of respect for everyone. I could very very easily become an egotistical, arrogant **** of a doctor who won't even look a nurse in the eye, because i've had that treatment from nurses to me working as a care worker. This is a free forum, you are welcome to post wherever you want to, as it is in the site's guidelines that all advice is not professional and the thread starter may or may not take your advice
Rude people should be ignored

Does it offer guidance on which asessment tools to use for anxiety with patients? Ive just typed in seach on the NICE site and cant find any guidance on which assesment tools to use.

Also should everything that a nurse does be backed up by NICE guidelines or are there other guidelines they can follow?

Im half way through the first year of a nursing course and i dont even know what NICE guidelines are Ive tried looking it up but cant find websites that explain things simply. Its making me question my ability to be a nurse there is so much stuff that I don't know I cant get my head round it. Is there a website aimed at students that explains things like this including the NMC? Its only really illnesses that interest me so Ive not done any reading up on these guidelines etc.

It's slightly concerning that you haven't done any reading up on the guidelines - you may be interested in nursing because you want to learn about illnesses, but you really do need to have a knowledge and understanding of policies and guidelines that underpin practice. You may not be interested but you should try and spend a bit of time perusing some of these kinds of documents. I found it all boring and unnecessary to begin with, but we had so many assignments about policies and guidelines that I had no choice but to immerse myself in them. And I'm embarrassed to say that I actually ended up really enjoying reading reams of policies etc!!

I agree, all of my assignments particuarly in 2nd year, and my dissertation in particuarly feature a degree of understanding of evidence based practice, and as guidelines and policies fall under it. I enjoy reading them too, partially because i'm starting to freak out about what will happen if i get a misconduct hearing..or sued

I agree, all of my assignments particuarly in 2nd year, and my dissertation in particuarly feature a degree of understanding of evidence based practice, and as guidelines and policies fall under it. I enjoy reading them too, partially because i'm starting to freak out about what will happen if i get a misconduct hearing..or sued