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    (Original post by SMed)
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    Why all the hate on AMD? They're not as fast as Intel, but you can get a 3500 Llano (3-core) for about 60 pounds.

    That's not bad considering you're probably going to have to get discrete graphics with any Intel solution. That, and AMD mobos are usually cheaper.
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    (Original post by Nick Longjohnson)
    Why all the hate on AMD? They're not as fast as Intel, but you can get a 3500 Llano (3-core) for about 60 pounds.

    That's not bad considering you're probably going to have to get discrete graphics with any Intel solution. That, and AMD mobos are usually cheaper.
    Because performance wise intel are better than amd at every price. It isn't opinion, it's fact. Also there are new intel CPUs(that's to say intel CPUs that are not used) that are as cheap as £30. The bulldozers were a massive fail.

    Edit: AMD users gonna hate.
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    (Original post by Edsterr)
    I was thinking about getting these parts to build my own computer:

    -750GB Western Digital WD7500AARS Caviar Green, 3.5" HDD, SATA II - 3Gb/s, 5400rpm, 64MB Cache, 8ms, Free-Fall

    -8GB (2x4GB) Corsair DDR3 Vengeance Jet Black, PC3-12800 (1600), Non-ECC, CAS 9-9-9-24, XMP, 1.50V

    -AMD FX 6100 Black Edition, Orochi Core, S AM3+, 3.3GHz, 12MB Total Cache, HT 5200MT/s, 95W

    -Coolermaster Elite 430, All Black, Mid Tower Case with Side Window 120mm Front LED Blue Fan w/o PSU

    -1GB Asus GTX 550 Ti, 4104MHz GDDR5, GPU 900MHz, Shader 1800MHz, 192 Cores, Dual Link DVI-I/ D-Sub/ HDMI

    -Alpenfohn Brocken CPAF-005 Quad Heatpipe Performance Cooler 775/1155/1156/1366/754/939/940/AM2/AM2+/AM3

    -Asus M5A97 PRO, AMD 970, S AM3+, DDR3, SATA III - 6Gb/s, RAID SATA, PCIe 2.0 (x16), ATX

    -520W Antec Neo Eco Modular PSU 82%Eff', 80 PLUS Bronze, SLI/CrossFire, EPS 12V, Quiet Fan, ATX

    -LG CH10LS20.AUAU 10x Blu-ray Reader, 16x DVD±R, 8x +RW, 6x -RW, 12x RAM - OEM *

    -Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit SP1, Operating System, Single, - OEM

    I will be using it mostly for gaming, but perhaps for films as well. Just wanted to know if this would work okay and/or if there are any improvements to be made.

    NB: I'm on a budget of £650 and this is currently ~£660
    Since I'm pretty sure you've already asked for and received advice on here and ignored it I'm not going to bother offering any to you this time. All I'm going to say is I could give you a better build for £650.
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    Hello there, was wondering if someone can help me with a custom build pc, I can build the pc but find it difficulty with compatiility buying the parts. It would be used for watching movies and hardcore gaming. My budget is 600 pound. Thanks in advance. I don't need an OS.
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    What about monitor, keyboard and mouse? Do you have any spare computer parts such as hard drives or optical drives?
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    (Original post by SMed)
    What about monitor, keyboard and mouse? Do you have any spare computer parts such as hard drives or optical drives?
    I have a standard pc at the moment, don't know if the parts are crap or good. They are the following:

    Asrock n68c-s ucc motherboard,
    Amd athlon 64 x2 dual core processor 4000+ 2.10ghz
    4gb maxtor ram
    320gb hd
    Nvidia geforce 8800 ultra graphics card
    2x dvd rw +/-
    card reader
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    (Original post by alexs2602)
    Since I'm pretty sure you've already asked for and received advice on here and ignored it I'm not going to bother offering any to you this time. All I'm going to say is I could give you a better build for £650.
    Sorry I must have missed a few posts or something, but as far as I was aware I've taken most (if not all) of the advice I've been given.
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    (Original post by Edsterr)
    Sorry I must have missed a few posts or something, but as far as I was aware I've taken most (if not all) of the advice I've been given.
    Fairly sure it was suggested amd is a waste of money. Although tbf doing a tally of the build I'd get now it'd cost £680~ which is obviously over. And unless you were to get a dvd drive instead of a blu ray or a cheaper HD I can't see a way of getting it below £650.

    £650 is a tight budget for a gaming comp.
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    (Original post by JirayasKonoha)
    I have a standard pc at the moment, don't know if the parts are crap or good. They are the following:

    Asrock n68c-s ucc motherboard,
    Amd athlon 64 x2 dual core processor 4000+ 2.10ghz
    4gb maxtor ram
    320gb hd
    Nvidia geforce 8800 ultra graphics card
    2x dvd rw +/-
    card reader
    Still need more info on the DVD rewriter, RAM, HD(For the HD and DVD rw - SATA? For the RAM DDR3?). But even then you're not likely to get a 'hardcore' gaming comp. Assuming you only reused the monitor, keyboard, mouse, OS it's still going to cost you a good £650 to get a decent build. Although if you didn't want to overclock it might be viable, just!
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    (Original post by alexs2602)
    Still need more info on the DVD rewriter, RAM, HD(For the HD and DVD rw - SATA? For the RAM DDR3?). But even then you're not likely to get a 'hardcore' gaming comp. Assuming you only reused the monitor, keyboard, mouse, OS it's still going to cost you a good £650 to get a decent build. Although if you didn't want to overclock it might be viable, just!
    Where do I get the rest of the info like that? Yeah I want to spend around 650 on a build. What's overclock? Yeah its sata is all I know. Even then I can't get a decent gaming machine? To play wow on full settings? How much would I have to pay? Couldn't I add stuff on extra later? Thanks in advance
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    I´m quite satisfied with my new PC, had no problems running Crysis 2 or Kingdoms of Amalur on the highest settings. Although I ended up spending more than I had originally intended.

    Components (I know I already posted parts of this, but this is a complete list of all the parts I eventually bought) :
    CM storm trooper case
    ASUS P8Z68-V Pro
    i5-2500k 4x3.30 Ghz
    8GB Corsair XMS Ram 2000 Mhz
    Geforce GTX 560 2GB
    Cougar S700 Power Supply
    Blu-Ray drive
    64 bit Windows professional
    500GB Hard drive

    Total cost: ~1000€
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    (Original post by JirayasKonoha)
    Where do I get the rest of the info like that? Yeah I want to spend around 650 on a build. What's overclock? Yeah its sata is all I know. Even then I can't get a decent gaming machine? To play wow on full settings? How much would I have to pay? Couldn't I add stuff on extra later? Thanks in advance
    Sorry, I thought you said you wanted to spend £600. Overclocking essentially meant to push components(usually CPU, sometimes graphics card and RAM) beyond the settings the manufacturer intended them to be used at. If done correctly it's perfectly safe - an i5-2500K can overclocked from 3.3GHz to 4.5GHz normally. It's really common.

    Are you just playing WoW? You could go with a graphics card such as the 550Ti although most people would probably advise the 560Ti or 6950/6970 for futureproofing.

    Add what extra on? It depends on what you want to add and what you spend on the motherboard.

    Look on the side of the RAM sticks, it should say either DDR2 or DDR3(your current motherboard supports both). So your DVD drive and hard drive are both SATA? You might be able to reuse those. If you could provide models for the DVD drive, RAM and hard drive it'd help.

    It's a tight budget if you're overclocking(the build I have worked out includes a motherboard, CPU, CPU cooler, power supply, budget case, DVD+/- drive, hard drive, RAM, graphics card iirc).

    What I was saying was this would pretty much be getting the cheapest possible components which fit your spec.
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    (Original post by alexs2602)
    Fairly sure it was suggested amd is a waste of money. Although tbf doing a tally of the build I'd get now it'd cost £680~ which is obviously over. And unless you were to get a dvd drive instead of a blu ray or a cheaper HD I can't see a way of getting it below £650.

    £650 is a tight budget for a gaming comp.
    I know £650 isn't a lot but as I don't have a computer at the moment, I would rather get one sooner rather than later. I've only got £400 right now, although I could probably raise the budget up to £700. Also, blu-ray isn't really necessary, it was just an extra.
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    (Original post by Catilina)
    I´m quite satisfied with my new PC, had no problems running Crysis 2 or Kingdoms of Amalur on the highest settings. Although I ended up spending more than I had originally intended.

    Components (I know I already posted parts of this, but this is a complete list of all the parts I eventually bought) :
    CM storm trooper case
    ASUS P8Z68-V Pro
    i5-2500k 4x3.30 Ghz
    8GB Corsair XMS Ram 2000 Mhz
    Geforce GTX 560 2GB
    Cougar S700 Power Supply
    Blu-Ray drive
    64 bit Windows professional
    500GB Hard drive

    Total cost: ~1000€
    Wait, how much did that PSU cost you? Send it back and get a new one. You don't want to skimp on a PSU. If that blows up it can take the rest of your system with it. Try a BeQuiet Pure Power L8 730W
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    (Original post by alexs2602)
    Wait, how much did that PSU cost you? Send it back and get a new one. You don't want to skimp on a PSU. If that blows up it can take the rest of your system with it. Try a BeQuiet Pure Power L8 730W
    It was about 130€ and all the reviews seemed pretty decent.( Review )

    Is it really that unfit for a gaming PC?

    I should note that the Windows version and the Hard drive were cheaper than usual, because my brother bought them at his University and his faculty (electrical engineering) sells their students stuff they might need at very low prices (e.g the official Windows version was about 10€).
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    (Original post by Catilina)
    It was about 130€ and all the reviews seemed pretty decent.( Review )

    Is it really that unfit for a gaming PC?

    I should note that the Windows version and the Hard drive were cheaper than usual, because my brother bought them at his University and his faculty (electrical engineering) sells their students stuff they might need at very low prices (e.g the official Windows version was about 10€).
    Oh ok, from what I gather it's more of an German brand. I didn't recognise the brand and the general rule is if you don't recognise it then it's worthless(that's to say you'll tend to recognise the good brands available in your own country if you've done enough research) but this seems fine. Apologies.
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    (Original post by jit987)
    Dell XPS 15z vs 14z? What are the differences other than screen size and weight?
    Anyone?
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    http://www.dell.com/uk/p/xps-l702x/pd

    Can anybody tell me whether this laptop would be suitable for playing the latest total war games, please?
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    (Original post by jit987)
    Anyone?
    Doesn't really make much of a difference. The cheapest one would be fine for your uses, I expect. They're nothing special but if you want a laptop they'd be fine. You didn't mention which one which didn't help. The CPU and RAM are fine and the graphics card is overkill unless you're gaming. Up to you what you want to do about storage. The SSD(in one of the 14z models) will make the most noticeable difference but it would be better if it had a smaller SSD because they're expensive and only useful for the OS and programs and a HD for file storage. They don't state which SSD they use and I can't be bothered to try and find out.
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    (Original post by Romanorum-Hellas)
    http://www.dell.com/uk/p/xps-l702x/pd

    Can anybody tell me whether this laptop would be suitable for playing the latest total war games, please?
    Should be fine.
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