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Thanks for the advice, and I'll take a look at Tom's Hardware. The PC I'm currently looking at is running
a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 on about 8gb ram, so are you saying I can get a better graphics card for less than ~700-450=£150?



I think it's mainly because it would be my first time building one and I wouldn't really have anyone guiding me through it. I wouldn't know if what I was doing was right or not. But I'll have a think about it.

Right now I'm actually debating whether or not I should go for the £749 one on Dino PC; its an intel processor with a better graphics card, should last a little longer.

Thanks for the advice, and I'll take a look at Tom's Hardware. The PC I'm currently looking at is running
a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 on about 8gb ram, so are you saying I can get a better graphics card for less than ~700-450=£150?



I think it's mainly because it would be my first time building one and I wouldn't really have anyone guiding me through it. I wouldn't know if what I was doing was right or not. But I'll have a think about it.

Right now I'm actually debating whether or not I should go for the £749 one on Dino PC; its an intel processor with a better graphics card, should last a little longer.

It's honestly not hard at all, it just a pain in the ass trying to screw your motherboard down to the case lool and your power supply, apart from that, everything else is very simple. I'll guide you through it, I have guided someone with the power connectors on this thread couple pages back, which can help.

If your talking about the Mass effect one, the graphics card isn't better, its slightly worse, the processor is better though.

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Getting the I/O shield on at the back is so damn fiddly.

Well I'd personally go for the Radeon 7850 over the 570 - they're about equal in performance and price except the 570 uses an absolute tonne of power and runs a lot hotter whilst the 7850 is more efficient. This means you can overclock the 7850 a lot more (easier than it sounds, you just click and scroll ) or even if you don't it'll save money on electricity bills.

And building a PC isn't hard at all. There are loads of guides online including video tutorials. Everything fits in a specific place so it's hard to get things wrong if you read instructions properly

Wait, I just realised what you were saying with the 570. If you can get everything I said for the same price prebuilt but with a 570 then go for it I guess.

I quite enjoy building the PC myself - part of the fun

EDIT: Just checked out that PC. The AMD is so much weaker than the Intel i5, believe me.

This benchmark: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/fx-8150-zambezi-bulldozer-990fx,review-32295-6.html

Shows that core for core (as in running each with just 1 core rather than quad/hexa core - most games will run on 2 cores max) the i7 2600k is like twice as fast as the AMD. And the 3570k is faster still core for core than the i7 2600k.

Getting the I/O shield on at the back is so damn fiddly.

Okay right, so from what I'm getting is that if I just take the plunge and build a PC, it'll be far more worth it in terms of speed and power. If my parents highly disapprove (and since they're my primary source of funding) then I'm guessing that the Mass Effect i5 @ 4.3Ghz or Veloce i7 3770 from Dino PC will be the best bet, since they both have i5/i7 processors and better graphics cards (NVIDIA 560 and NVIDIA 670 respectively).

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Hopefully I'll be able to build my PC and I'd probably just formulate most of it around the Veloce i7 3770 spec, do some research and see what parts offer a higher performance for a cheaper price and replace them.

Guys I need help.
I'm a computer noob; seriously know nothing when it comes to buying a PC. I was wandering if anyone had any suggestions. I need a fairly fast, reliable desktop PC which I mostly be using for educational purposes, browsing the net & watching videos etc. I'm not a PC gamer.
I also want to use multiple applications at once without the CPU and fan going ape-**** on me. I know there's masses of pages with relevant, useful information on this thread, but I don't have home internet access at the moment, so time is really of the essence.

Budget is £650 max
Thanks!

Does £650 include a monitor, keyboard, mouse, windows 7?

I already have a monitor, and the mouse, keyboard and rest are to be separately budgeted for

Okay, I can probably stretch the budget to about a grand since I'm sure my parents will be happy to give me a present for my 21st and my graduation rolled into one.

I don't really *need* a new minotor/keyboard, I have a decent monitor atm (21") and I'm skeptical how much another monitor will enhance graphs. I might buy a new keyboard and mouse but I doubt that'll set me back more than £50.

See I could build a rig but a) I have no idea how a system works and I might end up doing something stupid and b) I'm sure that takes a lot of time and energy and even though I'm gonna have a lot of free time, I don't know where I should really learn from.

Thanks for the advice, and I'll take a look at Tom's Hardware. The PC I'm currently looking at is running
a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 on about 8gb ram, so are you saying I can get a better graphics card for less than ~700-450=£150?



I think it's mainly because it would be my first time building one and I wouldn't really have anyone guiding me through it. I wouldn't know if what I was doing was right or not. But I'll have a think about it.

Right now I'm actually debating whether or not I should go for the £749 one on Dino PC; its an intel processor with a better graphics card, should last a little longer.

Looking for a sub 100 pound GPU.

Scan has an MSI 6850 for 83. Anyone know of anything better in that price range?

Nope. Grab it at that price. I'm pretty sure it was £100 yesterday when I looked. It dips in and out of sale from time to time. £83 is good.

That's what I figured. Other retailers have them for 100+.

Total order is 90 with delivery.

Looking for a sub 100 pound GPU.

Scan has an MSI 6850 for 83. Anyone know of anything better in that price range?

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