[wizard710]

(Original post by Keckers)
If you are planning on buying any games which are being released in the near future 1GB of RAM is going to seriously affect performance. I'm regularly using 1.5-1.6 GB of VRAM

The most I will possibly try is Starcraft II

[Keckers]

(Original post by wizard710)
The most I will possibly try is Starcraft II

Then I don't see why you are bothering with such expensive parts throughout the rest of your build.

[Iqbal007]

(Original post by wizard710)
Thanks for the case, I may just go with that. For the i5 I know it has little over the older 2500k but theres not that much difference in price.
OEM HDD? I understand the difference between OEM and Retail CPUs is it the same with HDDs? And will spin speed significantly affect performance. In the end I went with them cos they were the cheapest available at the moment.


I'm not really planning on gaming heavily and my parents computer which has worse processor and graphics card copes with the games I play anyway. I may consider an upgrade to kepler in a few years

The case will have a fan blue led fan at the front and one standard one at the back, do recommend getting a few more if you want more cooling as it is a big case.
If there's not much difference in price then go fot it.
Yes it will, because it would mean files will work at a slower rate.

Well the graphics card you've chosen is a winner for it's price getting maxed out frames on top games.

[Keckers]

(Original post by Iqbal007)

Well the graphics card you've chosen is a winner for it's price getting maxed out frames on top games.

This and this disagree.

If the most you are playing is going to be starcraft2 then the 1gb 560Ti will be fine, but if that is the most demanding game you will play then I really don't understand why you are spending so much on other components but willing to skimp on an extra 1GB VRAM.

[Iqbal007]

(Original post by Keckers)
This and this disagree.

If the most you are playing is going to be starcraft2 then the 1gb 560Ti will be fine, but if that is the most demanding game you will play then I really don't understand why you are spending so much on other components but willing to skimp on an extra 1GB VRAM.

It should be more than enough to be honest even with 1gb, just the frame rates wont be as high as the 2gb version.

[Arron17]

(Original post by Iqbal007)
It should be more than enough to be honest even with 1gb, just the frame rates wont be as high as the 2gb version.

Really unless your playing on more than one monitor a 2gb version of a card is going to make no difference what so ever.

[ELs123]

(Original post by Arron17)
Really unless your playing on more than one monitor a 2gb version of a card is going to make no difference what so ever.

this.

a 1GB 560ti is more than capable of 1080p on the vast majority of games at max settings.

2GB for above that res / multi monitors / going SLI or XFire / Maxxing the most demanding games (BF3 ultra 60fps blah blah)

[Arron17]

And instead of the 560ti get the 7850 http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...-005-VX&tool=3

[SMed]

For those of you building a computer, you need to take advantage of this offer.

Overclockers.co.uk has the Crucial M4 128GB SSD for £89.99 today only. Absolutely ridiculous price. 2 months ago it was £130 (what I paid), a month ago it was like £115, last week it was £105 on offer, and now today only £89.99. Unreal. Probably one of the best SSDs on the market.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=HD-009-CR

[Iqbal007]

(Original post by Arron17)
Really unless your playing on more than one monitor a 2gb version of a card is going to make no difference what so ever.

But how many people honestly be asking to play on multiple monitors on TSR, when there forums for PC gamers.

[Arron17]

(Original post by Iqbal007)
But how many people honestly be asking to play on multiple monitors on TSR, when there forums for PC gamers.

That's the point I'm trying to make. Why would you bother wasting your money on a 2GB card.

[Iqbal007]

(Original post by Arron17)
That's the point I'm trying to make. Why would you bother wasting your money on a 2GB card.

Oh my bad looool, was the original card 2gb?
Cos at most a 2gb only provides a few fps difference, not sure what the future holds, but it could help or getting a pcie 3.0 range of cards about to come out.

[wizard710]

(Original post by Iqbal007)
Oh my bad looool, was the original card 2gb?
Cos at most a 2gb only provides a few fps difference, not sure what the future holds, but it could help or getting a pcie 3.0 range of cards about to come out.

I'm happy to get the card that I said and possibly upgrade to a Kepler card in a few years when I have the money and time

Using the TSR App - Please excuse any typos

[NuclearFusion]

(Original post by wizard710)
Ok, this is what I have so far:

Intel Core i5 3570K,1155, Ivy Bridge, Quad Core, 3.4GHz, 5 GT/s DMI, 650MHz GPU, 6MB Smart Cache, 34x Ratio, 77W, Retail -- £173.94[/TD]

MSI Z77A-G45, Intel Z77, S 1155, DDR3, SATA III - 6Gb/s, SATA RAID, PCIe 3.0 (x16), D-Sub/ DVI-D/ HDMI, ATX

2x 1TB Seagate ST1000DL002 Barracuda Green, SATA 3Gb/s, 5900rpm, 32MB Cache, 12ms, NCQ

1GB MSI GTX 560Ti OC Twin Frozr II 40nm, 4200MHz GDDR5, GPU 880MHz, Shader 1760MHz, 384 Cores

8GB (2x4GB) Corsair DDR3 Vengeance Jet Black, PC3-12800 (1600), Non-ECC, CAS 9-9-9-24, XMP, 1.50V

I was going to put a 650 or 700W PSU in it and I've been told to stay away from cheap PSUs so what brands should I look at. Corsairs seem alright, any others

And what sort of fan arrangement am I going to need with that?

Edit: What about these two?
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/xclio...e-fans-w-o-psu
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/72ant...op-fan-w-o-psu

I would advise spending just £10 more for an MSI GTX 560Ti 448 core, from Scan, since it is a fair bit faster, with more cores, a 320-Bit memory interface, and more Vram. I myself bought the XFX 650w XXX edition PSU, from Scan, which is semi-modular (which helps a lot with cable management) and comes with a 5 Year warranty.

[Rainingshame]

(Original post by Iqbal007)
Everything seems fine.
Though through benchmarks the new i5 has little over the 2500k.

Why the choice of OEM HDD? Because they are slower than the standard ones.

The best fan arrangement is having one at the front and one at the rear.......also having 2 on the side specifically above the gpu and cpu.
And for the same price as that Antec you can get the latest one.

And PSU, its not wise at all to get a cheap one because they do not perform to what they say and easily break. Make sure it's bronze certified plus, Corsair are a good make 650+watt will give you some headroom.


I would recommend http://www.ebuyer.com/220862-coolerm...le-rc-692-kka3, bought that a while ago .

Get the 7850 2GB instead it throws the 560ti around the park but costs the same. Unless f course you NEED CUDA.

[DarkTitan]

i agree get the 7850, i got one and oced to 1150mhz its just heavenly.

with the hdd id suggest just getting a 1tb 7200rpm rather than 2 5900's.
Reason being prices are still falling, if and when you need the extra space, by the time you need it you can buy it for much much cheaper
e.g.

http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/c...132_HotUKDeals

[wizard710]

(Original post by DarkTitan)
i agree get the 7850, i got one and oced to 1150mhz its just heavenly.

with the hdd id suggest just getting a 1tb 7200rpm rather than 2 5900's.
Reason being prices are still falling, if and when you need the extra space, by the time you need it you can buy it for much much cheaper
e.g.

http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/c...132_HotUKDeals

(Original post by Rainingshame)
Get the 7850 2GB instead it throws the 560ti around the park but costs the same. Unless f course you NEED CUDA.

Ok thanks, I'll have a look at them cards. Out of interest, is CUDA more supported then Stream as it would be nice to use the gpu for processing where possible.

As to HDD I was getting 2 to put into a RAID1 arrangements

Using the TSR App - Please excuse any typos

[Rainingshame]

(Original post by wizard710)
Ok thanks, I'll have a look at them cards. Out of interest, is CUDA more supported then Stream as it would be nice to use the gpu for processing where possible.

As to HDD I was getting 2 to put into a RAID1 arrangements

Using the TSR App - Please excuse any typos

Most people who use CUDA use it for image processing, in which case they should really get a dedicated TESLA card ( i think the series is still called TESLA) for a workstation.

[Rainingshame]

(Original post by wizard710)
Ok thanks, I'll have a look at them cards. Out of interest, is CUDA more supported then Stream as it would be nice to use the gpu for processing where possible.

As to HDD I was getting 2 to put into a RAID1 arrangements

Using the TSR App - Please excuse any typos

It's more expensive and less reliable. If you want out and out speed (where it's actually useful) get a 60-120GB SSD (Intel make reliable ones) as a boot drive them get a single 2TB HDD.

[DarkTitan]

(Original post by wizard710)
Ok thanks, I'll have a look at them cards. Out of interest, is CUDA more supported then Stream as it would be nice to use the gpu for processing where possible.

As to HDD I was getting 2 to put into a RAID1 arrangements

Using the TSR App - Please excuse any typos

Have no clue on what cuda or stream does >.>

But if your going for high speed then ssd would be a good idea, theyre really cheap and only gettign cheaper atm, crucial m4, one of the most reliable is like £88 for 128gb atm

the 7850 when overclocked is near gtx580/7950 stock performance if that helps