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  1. Rainingshame's Avatar
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    Re: Before buying PC please ask our advice first!
    (Original post by Deank)
    Does this mean I could just get a new card??
    i'd recommend extra RAM as well. On max setting on 4GB and HD 4770 i got like 10fps.
    Now i get around 50ish on max with 8GB and a HD 7770.
    Frankly runescape isn't too taxing a game, the only place with around 8GB of ram and a 5770 you'll lag is world 77 deaemonheim and 84 concentrated gold ore.
    If you NEED a new computer (i.e. you have a slow computer or an unstable one) then get a quad core i5/6 core AMD. No need to overclock. 8GB ram, a 6770-7770 graphics card, a £20 pound cooler, a z77 motherboard and a decent case. With this a 600W PSU is enough and enough HDD space. An SSD is always useful but if like me you'll be priced out then no need. If an Runescape/ COD game is all you'll ever be playing in terms of graphics you're then sorted for the next 5 or so years. This should cost no more than 550-600 without an OS.
    Last edited by Rainingshame; 21-05-2012 at 20:56.
  2. Iqbal007's Avatar
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    (Original post by Deank)
    Does this mean I could just get a new card??
    You could possibly, however you'll still need a good cpu to work along side your gpu, gpu only handles the graphics.
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    Re: Before buying PC please ask our advice first!
    (Original post by Rainingshame)
    i'd recommend extra RAM as well. On max setting on 4GB and HD 4770 i got like 10fps.
    Now i get around 50ish on max with 8GB and a HD 7770.
    Frankly runescape isn't too taxing a game, the only place with around 8GB of ram and a 5770 you'll lag is world 77 deaemonheim and 84 concentrated gold ore.
    If you NEED a new computer (i.e. you have a slow computer or an unstable one) then get a quad core i5/6 core AMD. No need to overclock. 8GB ram, a 6770-7770 graphics card, a £20 pound cooler, a z77 motherboard and a decent case. With this a 600W PSU is enough and enough HDD space. An SSD is always useful but if like me you'll be priced out then no need. If an Runescape/ COD game is all you'll ever be playing in terms of graphics you're then sorted for the next 5 or so years. This should cost no more than 550-600 without an OS.
    Runescape would never need 8GB RAM. I don't even think it's 64 bit (so it's impossible for it to use that much RAM).
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    (Original post by moorbre)
    Looks like I may give up on the chance of gaming, just want a fast capable laptop...I prefer browsing myself :P Just trying to find out the difference between good and bad processors and graphics cards.
    If you look around on the known on-line sites, you should be able to pick up a decent i5 processor, maybe even an Asus make for around £400.
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    Re: Before buying PC please ask our advice first!
    Is there any downsides to getting a mATX mobo other than possibly not being able to do SLI/Crossfire or install water cooling?
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    Re: Before buying PC please ask our advice first!
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    Is there any downsides to getting a mATX mobo other than possibly not being able to do SLI/Crossfire or install water cooling?
    They cost more and you get less for your money compared to a similar standard motherboard.
    Stick with a standard one, which can easily be upgraded for the future and will handle far more.
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    Hey guys; I was wondering how to go about making sure I buy a CPU Cooler that actually fits with performance RAM (like Corsair Vengeance with the big heat spreader) I'm currently looking at this cooler and 2 * 4GB Corsair Vengeance on this motherboard.

    How can I tell if this will fit or not?
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    (Original post by hassi94)
    Hey guys; I was wondering how to go about making sure I buy a CPU Cooler that actually fits with performance RAM (like Corsair Vengeance with the big heat spreader) I'm currently looking at this cooler and 2 * 4GB Corsair Vengeance on this motherboard.

    How can I tell if this will fit or not?
    I could swear you can change the way you mount it, so you can make sure when you mount it, the bit sticking out faces towards the pci slots.
  9. SMed's Avatar
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    Get one of those little closed loop liquid coolers.
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    Re: Before buying PC please ask our advice first!
    (Original post by Rainingshame)
    i'd recommend extra RAM as well. On max setting on 4GB and HD 4770 i got like 10fps.
    Now i get around 50ish on max with 8GB and a HD 7770.
    Frankly runescape isn't too taxing a game, the only place with around 8GB of ram and a 5770 you'll lag is world 77 deaemonheim and 84 concentrated gold ore.
    If you NEED a new computer (i.e. you have a slow computer or an unstable one) then get a quad core i5/6 core AMD. No need to overclock. 8GB ram, a 6770-7770 graphics card, a £20 pound cooler, a z77 motherboard and a decent case. With this a 600W PSU is enough and enough HDD space. An SSD is always useful but if like me you'll be priced out then no need. If an Runescape/ COD game is all you'll ever be playing in terms of graphics you're then sorted for the next 5 or so years. This should cost no more than 550-600 without an OS.
    Thank you. I better look into some good ways of making money then!
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    Re: Before buying PC please ask our advice first!
    (Original post by hassi94)
    Hey guys; I was wondering how to go about making sure I buy a CPU Cooler that actually fits with performance RAM (like Corsair Vengeance with the big heat spreader) I'm currently looking at this cooler and 2 * 4GB Corsair Vengeance on this motherboard.

    How can I tell if this will fit or not?
    It will fit.

    If for whatever reason it doesn't you can just put the fan on the other side.
  12. Rainingshame's Avatar
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    Re: Before buying PC please ask our advice first!
    (Original post by hassi94)
    Runescape would never need 8GB RAM. I don't even think it's 64 bit (so it's impossible for it to use that much RAM).
    You'd think that but i was still lagging at 4 :P it uses a max of around 1.8GB in the WORST conditions but it needs a lot spare or it does stutter some. Also you nearly always do stuff other than play it and if you add playing HD youtube videos and roaming the internet it exceeds 4GB. Also 8GB is always useful to have for the future.
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    Re: Before buying PC please ask our advice first!
    Can someone explain the chipsets on motherboards for example my motherboard is a z68 chipset, I see people reccomending the z77 chipset

    I plan on getting a 3rd gen processor in the summer and want to know if my lga 1155 socket z68 motherboard is cool with that
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    Re: Before buying PC please ask our advice first!
    (Original post by kingkongjaffa)
    Can someone explain the chipsets on motherboards for example my motherboard is a z68 chipset, I see people reccomending the z77 chipset

    I plan on getting a 3rd gen processor in the summer and want to know if my lga 1155 socket z68 motherboard is cool with that
    The z77 was the one designed for Ivy Bridge AFAIK. Most z68 motherboards will support Ivy Bridge, but they require an update so I guess it depends on the model.
  15. SMed's Avatar
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    Re: Before buying PC please ask our advice first!
    Crucial M4 128GB SSDs now down to £80 delivered on ebuyer.
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    Re: Before buying PC please ask our advice first!
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    Crucial M4 128GB SSDs now down to £80 delivered on ebuyer.
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    Re: Before buying PC please ask our advice first!
    (Original post by kingkongjaffa)
    Can someone explain the chipsets on motherboards for example my motherboard is a z68 chipset, I see people reccomending the z77 chipset

    I plan on getting a 3rd gen processor in the summer and want to know if my lga 1155 socket z68 motherboard is cool with that
    Most Z68 boards can support Ivybridge with a BIOS update, though it comes down to the manufacturer, so check that your one supports it. Z77 is the best choice if you are buying an Ivybridge, and don't already have an LGA 1155 supporting motherboard (it isn't really worth upgrading from a Z68 board) since it will allow full support for all the technologies of Ivybridge.
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    Any ideas how long this SSD price war will last/how low they'll become in the coming months?
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    Re: Before buying PC please ask our advice first!
    (Original post by scherzi)
    Any ideas how long this SSD price war will last/how low they'll become in the coming months?
    Don't know really, but a 240gb OCZ SSD is £149.99 on ebuyer
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    Re: Before buying PC please ask our advice first!
    When using an SSD do you just install all your commonly used games and programs on it, and then install the rest of your things and store general files on your HDD? and if you wanted to play a game that was on your HDD, could you just transfer it over to the SSD and swap it with other another? (do you have a limited number of writes?

    Also, I think this is what I'm going to go for, hoping to order tomorrow :

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£177.97 @ Ebuyer)
    Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LX ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£90.38 @ Ebuyer)
    Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£42.41 @ Ebuyer)
    Hard Drive: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£70.00 @ Ebuyer)
    Hard Drive: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£78.99 @ Ebuyer)
    Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card (£179.99 @ Ebuyer)
    Case: Fractal Design Define R3 Black Pearl ATX Mid Tower Case (£69.10 @ Ebuyer)
    Power Supply: Corsair 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£78.30 @ Ebuyer)
    Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222AB DVD/CD Writer
    Total: £799
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