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    (Original post by wcp100)
    When I say gaming, I'm not one of these, "I want to play crysis on full", people.

    Yes I have a windows Cd.
    That's fair enough, but what sort of games do you want to be playing. If they're modern ones then the Intel 4000 (which is the integrated graphics that come with the new Ivy Bridge processors) may still struggle (on some of them, not all - some games it will be fine) even at lowest settings.
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    Hey guys; just wondering - can anyone see any difference between these two motherboards:

    http://www.dabs.com/products/gigabyt...7%20d3h&src=16

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    http://www.dabs.com/products/gigabyt...%20ds3h&src=16


    They seem the same by all possible measures but I don't want to regret going for the £10 cheaper one.

    EDIT: Turns out the cheaper one has 2 fewer USB 3.0 sockets, and 1 fewer SATA 3GB/s connectors.
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    (Original post by hassi94)
    That's fair enough, but what sort of games do you want to be playing. If they're modern ones then the Intel 4000 (which is the integrated graphics that come with the new Ivy Bridge processors) may still struggle (on some of them, not all - some games it will be fine) even at lowest settings.
    Does this count as a game?

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    and Battlefield. The old ones. Now I've admitted my geekiness.
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    (Original post by wcp100)
    Does this count as a game?

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    and Battlefield. The old ones. Now I've admitted my geekiness.
    Don't worry I play both of these. Afraid I'm on my phone right now so ill have a look for you later when I'm on the PC
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    (Original post by wcp100)
    Does this count as a game?

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    and Battlefield. The old ones. Now I've admitted my geekiness.
    Hmm... Well I'm finding it hard to find a decent laptop with a dedicated graphics card for under £500, unless you're willing to buy a refurbished (more often they're not refurbished - just cancellations) Dell XPS 15 from dell outlet.

    If that isn't an option; I'd just say wait a month or so until more Ivy Bridge laptops start rolling out; because the Intel 4000 should satisfy most of your gaming needs.
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    (Original post by hassi94)
    Hmm... Well I'm finding it hard to find a decent laptop with a dedicated graphics card for under £500, unless you're willing to buy a refurbished (more often they're not refurbished - just cancellations) Dell XPS 15 from dell outlet.

    If that isn't an option; I'd just say wait a month or so until more Ivy Bridge laptops start rolling out; because the Intel 4000 should satisfy most of your gaming needs.
    Excellent I'll do that then. I'm avoiding getting one after the release of Windows 8. It's bl**dy awful.
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    (Original post by wcp100)
    Excellent I'll do that then. I'm avoiding getting one after the release of Windows 8. It's bl**dy awful.
    Yeah, it's pretty horrible. You could always just install windows 7 over it if worst came to worst.
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    (Original post by hassi94)
    Yeah, it's pretty horrible. You could always just install windows 7 over it if worst came to worst.
    I'd rather not invalidate and warranties doing so though.
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    Hi all,

    My computer has finally done its last nose dive into oblivion and i cant save it no matter how hard i try.

    I have little to no knowledge of computing but ive tried to find out what i can. Im still not confident in my skills.

    Ive so far come up with this: http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/p/9gkU
    but i was wondering if anyone here can see any major problems or can do better than i can Im on a £400-£500 budget

    Sorry for being 'that guy'
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    (Original post by andmeaning)
    Hi all,

    My computer has finally done its last nose dive into oblivion and i cant save it no matter how hard i try.

    I have little to no knowledge of computing but ive tried to find out what i can. Im still not confident in my skills.

    Ive so far come up with this: http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/p/9gkU
    but i was wondering if anyone here can see any major problems or can do better than i can Im on a £400-£500 budget

    Sorry for being 'that guy'
    Change the i5 2400 to an i5 3450 - same price. I don't see any need to get a third party CPU cooler since you won't be overclocking.
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    I was looking a bit more at some different configs for my build and I'm wondering if to try and keep the budget around the £500 mark, if I got an AMD CPU instead of the I5 I could then get possibly a GTX 570 graphics card?
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    Hey all Anyone willing to poke my build and check for holes? I don't think there are compatibility issues... Have a few concerns about the budget 6850 card, and about power supply being too small as I'll be over-clocking.

    On top of compatibility checks, I was wondering if anyone could suggest any areas for down-grading in order to save a bit of money. This build is quite a costly one! I'm thinking look for budget PSU/Case... THANKS ALL!!!!

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    Hard Drive (Seagate 1TB 7200RPM ) <-May switch with Hitachi Deskstar
    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1tb-h...-cache-8ms-oem

    GPU (MSI HD 6850 [oc] ) <- Worried about this one
    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-m...2x-dvi-hdmi-dp

    CPU Fan (Artic Cooling Pro13)
    http://www.dabs.com/products/arctic-...g%20pro&src=16

    CPU (i5-2500k) + Motherboard (P8Z77-V-LX) + RAM (8gb DD33 1600mhz)
    http://www.dabs.com/products/asus-in...2MC.html?src=2

    Case (Coolermaster Enforcer) + PSU Bundle (650W GX)
    http://www.ebuyer.com/270605-cm-stor...-1000-kwa-650w

    DVD Drive
    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...-126-SA&tool=3

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    (Original post by TkTk)
    Hey all Anyone willing to poke my build and check for holes? I don't think there are compatibility issues... Have a few concerns about the budget 6850 card, and about power supply being too small as I'll be over-clocking.

    On top of compatibility checks, I was wondering if anyone could suggest any areas for down-grading in order to save a bit of money. This build is quite a costly one! I'm thinking look for budget PSU/Case... THANKS ALL!!!!

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    Hard Drive (Seagate 1TB 7200RPM ) <-May switch with Hitachi Deskstar
    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1tb-h...-cache-8ms-oem

    GPU (MSI HD 6850 [oc] ) <- Worried about this one
    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-m...2x-dvi-hdmi-dp

    CPU Fan (Artic Cooling Pro13)
    http://www.dabs.com/products/arctic-...g%20pro&src=16

    CPU (i5-2500k) + Motherboard (P8Z77-V-LX) + RAM (8gb DD33 1600mhz)
    http://www.dabs.com/products/asus-in...2MC.html?src=2

    Case (Coolermaster Enforcer) + PSU Bundle (650W GX)
    http://www.ebuyer.com/270605-cm-stor...-1000-kwa-650w

    DVD Drive
    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...-126-SA&tool=3

    I'd spend £10 extra of an 3570k rather than the i5 2500k, but that's your call really. The PSU is more than enough, with your build as it is you could use a 500w absolutely fine (or even a 450W) - but there's no issue with getting the 650W. Just means when you upgrade your graphics card it'll still be up for the job.

    About the cooler, it's very large and (according to reviews) doesn't allow you to put the fan on the other side - so you might find it blocks RAM slots.


    Speaking of RAM - if you go for the 3570k and the motherboard separately then go for 8GB Corsair Vengeance for £40

    I don't honestly see a way you can save money - you haven't really been lavish with anything (not criticising - I'm the same), just sensible. You could perhaps strip £15-25 by buying a basic Gigabyte model. Gigabyte would be my first choice whether they were cheaper or not; due to Asus' horrendous returns service - whilst gigabyte have the best in the country for motherboards/graphics cards.


    Oh, the graphics card. It should play most recent games on High, and a fair few on very high settings. It might struggle at high settings (by struggle I mean stay at about 30 FPS - I don't enjoy playing at anything below 40-50 personally) on some of the higher end newer games (Metro, Crysis 2, Battlefield 3) but overall it should be fine. If you were willing to spend an extra 35 pounds you could get a 6870 which is a fair bit of an improvement - but certainly not massive. OR if you could spend an extra £100 you could get a 7850 which would be a pretty massive improvement (but I'm unsure that you'd be willing to spend that).
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    What about that build config?

    If I have some extra cash I might upgrade the 4100 to a 8120.

    Also would that be able to run Bukkit and 1 minecraft client, no other people would be logged onto the server.
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    (Original post by wcp100)
    Does this count as a game?

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    and Battlefield. The old ones. Now I've admitted my geekiness.
    You'd be suprised by minecraft, it needs some decent requirements to play at greater than 10FPS, probably easier to play your old BF games
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    (Original post by wcp100)
    When I say gaming, I'm not one of these, "I want to play crysis on full", people.

    Yes I have a windows Cd.
    http://www.novatech.co.uk/laptop/ran...repro2450.html

    Novatech nSpire Pro 2450 - 15.6" Intel i5 2450 Mobile Processor - 4GB DDR3 Memory - 500GB SATA Hard Drive - DVD Writer - Intel HM65 Chipset - NVIDIA GT540M Graphics

    Just about £510 without windows
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    (Original post by andmeaning)
    Hi all,

    My computer has finally done its last nose dive into oblivion and i cant save it no matter how hard i try.

    I have little to no knowledge of computing but ive tried to find out what i can. Im still not confident in my skills.

    Ive so far come up with this: http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/p/9gkU
    but i was wondering if anyone here can see any major problems or can do better than i can Im on a £400-£500 budget

    Sorry for being 'that guy'
    Your build has a few issues certainly.

    As Hassi stated get the newer one for the same price.

    Nor is their any point in a high end cpu cooler as you won't be pushing your cpu, if you just want noise and temperature to be lower,you can do it for a far cheaper option.

    Don't consider that board, it's a mATX, few people make this mistake, it is cheaper, however the board is a lot smaller the standard ones, with limited capability and are for people with a small case and limited space, but your case is large. So cut back on the aftermarket cooler and put more money on the motherboard, especially if you want to expand it in the future.

    560 GTX is a bit too much money, considering you got the 560 ti which is better for a bit more.
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    (Original post by TkTk)
    Hey all Anyone willing to poke my build and check for holes? I don't think there are compatibility issues... Have a few concerns about the budget 6850 card, and about power supply being too small as I'll be over-clocking.

    On top of compatibility checks, I was wondering if anyone could suggest any areas for down-grading in order to save a bit of money. This build is quite a costly one! I'm thinking look for budget PSU/Case... THANKS ALL!!!!

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    Hard Drive (Seagate 1TB 7200RPM ) <-May switch with Hitachi Deskstar
    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1tb-h...-cache-8ms-oem

    GPU (MSI HD 6850 [oc] ) <- Worried about this one
    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-m...2x-dvi-hdmi-dp

    CPU Fan (Artic Cooling Pro13)
    http://www.dabs.com/products/arctic-...g%20pro&src=16

    CPU (i5-2500k) + Motherboard (P8Z77-V-LX) + RAM (8gb DD33 1600mhz)
    http://www.dabs.com/products/asus-in...2MC.html?src=2

    Case (Coolermaster Enforcer) + PSU Bundle (650W GX)
    http://www.ebuyer.com/270605-cm-stor...-1000-kwa-650w

    DVD Drive
    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...-126-SA&tool=3

    http://www.dabs.com/products/asus-p8...271.html?src=3
    Asus P8Z77-V LX, Intel Core i5-3570K & 8GB DDR3 Performance Plus Ivybridge Bundle £330

    The 6850 from what I remember, is the best value for money graphics card their is. The next level up is the 6870 for a bit more or the 7770HD.

    The case and psu are fine, i got the 690 II bundle
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    (Original post by quotidian)
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    What about that build config?

    If I have some extra cash I might upgrade the 4100 to a 8120.

    Also would that be able to run Bukkit and 1 minecraft client, no other people would be logged onto the server.
    I actually have the 8120..........but people will tell tell you that an i5 will have a bigger advantage in terms of gaming as it does.
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    So I need a new desktop and I've got about £850 to spend on .. I want dual screens which are going to cost about £250 for both so I've got £600 left to spend everything else.
    Need CPU/motherboard/ram/graphics card/HDD/SSD/Case
    I need the pc for some gaming, some video editing, multitasking and general use.
    Don't need the best graphics card, I mean I think the 6850 is good enough for me.
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